Why would Casuals / Bro-gamers pick up a PS4 / WiiU / Juan?

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#1  Edited By dobzilian
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When CoD, FIFA, NBA, Battlefield, AC and all these other yearly iterations of Bro-Games (not saying they're bad) will be released on the PS3 and 360 for the next several years? These are bigger system sellers than all Exclusives on PS4 / WiiU and Juan and 3rd parties will not drop the PS3 and 360 until they have a big user base.

PS3 and 360 will most likely get bigger support than PS4 / WiiU and Juan for another 2 / 3 Years.

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#2 bbkkristian
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Because. Teh graphics.

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Why don't you ask them? Go on, we'll wait for your findings.

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#4 dobzilian
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@drinkerofjuice said:

Why don't you ask them? Go on, we'll wait for your findings.

Why dont you answer so we can find out ?

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#5 always_explicit
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ZIIIING haha

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#6 KBFloYd
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ill keep saying it...xbox 360 and ps3 will outsell the juan and quad this holiday

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#7 dobzilian
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@KBFloYd: I guess 3 /1.

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#8  Edited By Pikminmaniac
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I can definitely see bro gamers going for PS4 or Xbox One because "Dude the graphics!" and they'll probably pick up call of duty or BF4. I don't see casuals making a move.

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#9 Floppy_Jim
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Those who would buy a 7 year old PS3 aren't the same people who would buy a brand new PS4. Power/graphics has a hand in it, people like better looking sweat and more detailed dirt and more realistic leaves in their vidyagames.

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#10 DocSanchez
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So people are either casuals or "bro gamers" (A truly pathetic term). Right. Explains more about your worldview than gamers.

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#11  Edited By OreoMilkshake
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Because they can watch football on the Uno.

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#12 always_explicit
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@DocSanchez said:

So people are either casuals or "bro gamers" (A truly pathetic term). Right. Explains more about your worldview than gamers.

Yeah this elitist view is pretty pathetic. Shame its so commonplace on forums.

Being a hardcore gamer just means you have more time or money to dedicate to the cause, it doesnt mean the enjoyment you get from gaming is any greater or your input is any more valid than that of a "bro gamer / casual"

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#13 dobzilian
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@DocSanchez said:

So people are either casuals or "bro gamers" (A truly pathetic term). Right. Explains more about your worldview than gamers.

No, Where does it say that ? I go on about Casual Gamers or the other term that theyre known by which is Bro-Gamers, The people who just buy CoD, FIFA, AC. We all know these variation of people are what Developers mainly try to please and not people whom are truly into challenging games in some shape or form whether its a challenge by exploration, puzzles, Not having your hand held from start to finish or by difficulty level. These games are being released on every Console if you haven't noticed. I never said they was bad Games and i do Enjoy CoD and AC but theyre not a challenge and theyre more aimed at this variation of Gamer than I.

Dude you should of just stopped in hiding after being owned in another topic by me and posted on your alternative account. you shown yet again you do not know what you are on about, You go on about me but you are truly pathetic one yet again.

Overall: Grow up Kid.

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#14  Edited By dobzilian
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@always_explicit said:

@DocSanchez said:

So people are either casuals or "bro gamers" (A truly pathetic term). Right. Explains more about your worldview than gamers.

Yeah this elitist view is pretty pathetic. Shame its so commonplace on forums.

Being a hardcore gamer just means you have more time or money to dedicate to the cause, it doesnt mean the enjoyment you get from gaming is any greater or your input is any more valid than that of a "bro gamer / casual"

You are looking to deeply into it, I use a generic term to generalize a slice of the Gaming Market while you are taking out of context, This is SW's where writing a catchy Topic name gets more posts than a well written Topic. I'm not being Elitist its just DocShanchez is mad and went into hiding after being torn a new A'hole in another Topic.

We generalize people all the time. Emo's, Goth's, Posh, Hill Billies, Jock's, Weebo's. I can go on all evening but you get the jist.

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#15 DocSanchez
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@dobzilian: Who the **** are you saying I am? You have never owned anybody, but point me to my alternate account so I can see who I'm supposed to be.

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#16  Edited By funsohng
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It is my belief that you can't simply generalize and classify gamers when in reality, the nature of the individual preferences is extremely diverse and complex.

I guess the corporations have to make a decision based on (very vague) statistics, because, well, they are economically-driven, and it's easier to make money when you have simpler data, but at least as gamers, we shouldn't be denoting some of us as "bro-gamers" or "casuals" so easily and without much thought.

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#17  Edited By lundy86_4
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It'll be different to the PS2/XBOX to PS3/360, for sure. Largely because the same features will mostly be utilized across last/current-gen.

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#18  Edited By dobzilian
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@DocSanchez said:

@dobzilian: Who the **** are you saying I am? You have never owned anybody, but point me to my alternate account so I can see who I'm supposed to be.

Oh my now you have resorted to bad language, How Grown up of you.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/project-cars-vs-real-life-new-info-on-wiiu-version-29456795/

Here is the Topic which you Trolled and got torn a new one in.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/my-bad-ignore-30852874/#1

Here is bit more proof of your idiocy. I posted a Topic created already by Charizard (WatchDogs held back to Spring) and could not delete so i got rid of the topic as best as possible but you had to be Childish rather than allowing the Topic to die.

I would like to know myself but it is impossible to tell when there are so many alternative accounts on here that have the same idiotic manner as yourself. To figure out which one or ones are yours would be like trying to figure out which part of Pamela Anderson is Real or Fake.

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#19 always_explicit
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@dobzilian said:

@always_explicit said:

@DocSanchez said:

So people are either casuals or "bro gamers" (A truly pathetic term). Right. Explains more about your worldview than gamers.

Yeah this elitist view is pretty pathetic. Shame its so commonplace on forums.

Being a hardcore gamer just means you have more time or money to dedicate to the cause, it doesnt mean the enjoyment you get from gaming is any greater or your input is any more valid than that of a "bro gamer / casual"

You are looking to deeply into it, I use a generic term to generalize a slice of the Gaming Market while you are taking out of context, This is SW's where writing a catchy Topic name gets more posts than a well written Topic. I'm not being Elitist its just DocShanchez is mad and went into hiding after being torn a new A'hole in another Topic.

We generalize people all the time. Emo's, Goth's, Posh, Hill Billies, Jock's, Weebo's. I can go on all evening but you get the jist.

I apologise I wasnt specifically targeting you or your choice of words and it does come across that way reading it back. It was more just a general dislike of some people who deem those of us who game less often as less valid contributors. It gets my goat haha

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I can see Bro gamers who were PS3 only, picking up a PS4 for new features like Cross Game chat etc... that it will offer over PS3's PSN. Along side that they'll pick up new systems for prettier graphics. Neither casuals or Bro Gamers are picking up a Wii U lol.

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#21 dobzilian
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@always_explicit: No worries, Its a easy enough mistake. I truly have the ability to use the wrong choice of words in most cases.

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@always_explicit said:

@DocSanchez said:

So people are either casuals or "bro gamers" (A truly pathetic term). Right. Explains more about your worldview than gamers.

Yeah this elitist view is pretty pathetic. Shame its so commonplace on forums.

Being a hardcore gamer just means you have more time or money to dedicate to the cause, it doesnt mean the enjoyment you get from gaming is any greater or your input is any more valid than that of a "bro gamer / casual"

I look at the general population of gamers as either casuals (not their hobby), simply gamers (their main hobby) or proffesionals (those that use gaming for a income, i have a couple of friends that make roughly 300 euros a month out of gaming).

A more accurate point of view, in my opinion.

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#23  Edited By finalstar2007
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Because Friends.. when all your friends get a PS4 and play CoD on the PS4 while you'd be the only person playing the game alone on PS3 because the game is still coming to it then there is something wrong going on.

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#24 Sushiglutton
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Because they want to have the best graphics and a more powerful machine than their neighbour, and they think PC is for nerds.

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#25 KungfuKitten
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They don't really care for graphics so... I dunno. It won't be a big deal to them until they can't play with their friends.

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@KBFloYd said:

ill keep saying it...xbox 360 and ps3 will outsell the juan and quad this holiday

Definitely agree with this statement.

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#28 bobbetybob
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A lot of people have had these consoles for 7 or 8 years and we live in a culture where as soon as a new gadget comes out people want it and have to have it so I don't think it's too crazy to believe people are going to pick up a new console. Plus, most "bro gamers" play with groups of friends, if all of those friends migrate to a new console they'll pick one up so they can carry on playing with their buddies.

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#29 ReadingRainbow4
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Because,COD.

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#30 dobzilian
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@bobbetybob: I agree Bobby. I believe sooner or later PS4's and Juan will start selling but not until 3rd party support has dwindled on the PS3 and 360 with Games like CoD, Battlefield, Need for Speed, AC which will not be for another 2 or even 3 years. Another thing is have we ever seen so many games being cross generation? I dont we have. You do put up a good point in Bro-Gamers playing with Friends though.

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#31 k2theswiss
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Several years? Na lot of gamea for 2015 will endonly onnew systema

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#32 bobbetybob
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@dobzilian said:

@bobbetybob: I agree Bobby. I believe sooner or later PS4's and Juan will start selling but not until 3rd party support has dwindled on the PS3 and 360 with Games like CoD, Battlefield, Need for Speed, AC which will not be for another 2 or even 3 years. Another thing is have we ever seen so many games being cross generation? I dont we have. You do put up a good point in Bro-Gamers playing with Friends though.

The amount of games being cross generational is definitely going to keep more people back than usual, we'll have to wait and see whether that support lasts 2-3 years though, even if it does I suspect it will be with similar titles to those the PS2 had for years after the PS3 released which were mostly just sports titles and CoD.

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#33  Edited By Gue1
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@funsohng said:

It is my belief that you can't simply generalize and classify gamers when in reality, the nature of the individual preferences is extremely diverse and complex.

I guess the corporations have to make a decision based on (very vague) statistics, because, well, they are economically-driven, and it's easier to make money when you have simpler data, but at least as gamers, we shouldn't be denoting some of us as "bro-gamers" or "casuals" so easily and without much thought.

not when we are talking about the dude/bro gamers. All they care about is for yearly sport games, Call of Duty or the latest overhyped Triple A shooter with lots of advertisement (this includes girls too, mostly Xbox fangirls). This is a group that has become so predominant in recent years that franchises like Resident Evil, Dead Space and many others have been ruined just to cater to them.

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#34 dobzilian
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@Gue1: You hit that Nail right on its Head.

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#35 Merex760
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Assassin's Creed is a bro game?

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#36  Edited By cainetao11
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@bbkkristian said:

Because. Teh graphics.

Done. The one and 4 are a visual upgrade from ps3/360, that's all mainstream care about. Not TFLOPS, or exclusive count. Just a visual advance, some multimedia pluses, and their yearly fix.

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#37 killerfist
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wtf is a bro gamer?

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#38 danten81
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@killerfist said:

wtf is a bro gamer?

A gaming enthusiast that specializes in action and sports games, rather than action/adventure and RPGs.

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#39  Edited By megaspiderweb09
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Casuals are not getting consoles anytime soon, the core gamers would gravitate more towards the PS4, but the margin between the PS4 n Xbox One would be close. The WiiU can gain some casual audience back due to the family oriented nature of the console, however most casuals would rather upgrade their tablets than a console, since most already own a Wii and their 9yr old kid who could be 14 now would want an Xbox rather than a WiiU, the mothers already game on Tablets/Phones, the grand folks do the same. It is not looking very rosy for Nintendo unless they create killer apps that grabs the attention of that audience again. The casual audience are a very fickle bunch, their attention span is very low and they do not see gaming as part of their main hobbies, so Nintendo has some really hard job to do if it ever hopes to convince them to come back

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#40  Edited By FPSfan1985
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@danten81 said:

@killerfist said:

wtf is a bro gamer?

A gaming enthusiast that specializes in action and sports games, rather than action/adventure and RPGs.

I guess I'm a bro gamer then. Never understood the hate for action and sports games. They are great.

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#41 danten81
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@FPSfan1985 said:

@danten81 said:

@killerfist said:

wtf is a bro gamer?

A gaming enthusiast that specializes in action and sports games, rather than action/adventure and RPGs.

I guess I'm a bro gamer then. Never understood the hate for action and sports games. They are great.

Variety is what makes gaming great, so I don't get hate either.

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@FlamesOfGrey said:

I can see Bro gamers who were PS3 only, picking up a PS4 for new features like Cross Game chat etc... that it will offer over PS3's PSN. Along side that they'll pick up new systems for prettier graphics. Neither casuals or Bro Gamers are picking up a Wii U lol.

Thank gawd.

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#43  Edited By killerfist
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@danten81 said:

@killerfist said:

wtf is a bro gamer?

A gaming enthusiast that specializes in action and sports games, rather than action/adventure and RPGs.

Right.. what a bullshit name for people that have a preference for a certain genre

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#44 NeonNinja
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Why would anyone aside from hardcore fans of games purchase new systems at any time of release?

So long as the majority of the fanbase is on one gen, that gen will get the support by third parties.

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#45 John_Matherson
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and by bro gamers I'm guessing you mean XBL douche bags?