Why Wii will have the most games and the best games when all is said and done

At the beginning of a gaming generation, software is not the only deciding factor for the consoles. instead, whats selling is a brand, and an idea. thats one of the reasons dreamcast failed, and one of the reasons consoles with weak starts still win or at least holds their own. First you have to have appealing hardware in order to sell software. THEN the software is decided by the success of the console relative to the others. If its successful, more games will come, if more games come, it will be more successful. you see the point.

Take a look at the Wii. the launch was ok (still better than ps3) by traditional software standards, but great considering it introduced something new, something that needs a while to establish itself, because changing a paradigm is not very common. But the concept sells. people dig it, people buy it, and thats why, in the end, all the developers are going to jump onboard.

Its easier to develop, its cheaper to develop, more room for innovation is allowed.

And no, it will not just be for a certain genre, and it will not just produce a certain type of games, that thinking is just unreasonable. When a console has much software, obviously different developers start to compete with eachother for the costumers, which means that they have to push graphics, gameplay and take different routes and if they want their game to stand out.

The wii will not stop selling. people cant get "tired" of a superior controller method. you dont see anybody going back to NES controlls. And even if that wasnt the case, its not like people buy 2 of the same console. if they were ever appealed by it, they will buy it. hey, its not much of an investment anyway, and will be even cheaper in 2 years.

Yep.. wii will sell the most, which means it will win the war in both quality and quantity, at least that the most logical conclusion.

Krudus

Anyone else prompted to get the Wiimote closer when they just get 10-12 feet back from their tv.  I have a 56" tv and have to sit like 7-8 feet away so the sensor picks it up.

I wouldn't mind Ninty taking this one with MS in a close second. Vyse_The_Daring

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]I wouldn't mind Ninty taking this one with MS in a close second. Shinobishyguy

We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
Kintaro_Oe_25

We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
Kintaro_Oe_25

[QUOTE="Kintaro_Oe_25"]
We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
SmashBrosLegend

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="Kintaro_Oe_25"]
We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
Kintaro_Oe_25

We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
Kintaro_Oe_25

ironically, the gc and xbox had the exact same number of AAA exclusives.

So Krudus. If someone don't agree if you they should shut up? First of all, I own all three and I must say claiming that nonone will get tired of the controlling method, even if you called it "superior", is just plain dumb. In the end it is just another way of controlling games. It will not make games great by itself. Most of the great games on the DS are not great just because of the stylus, they would have been great with a regular controlloing method also. I personally think it works well in some typs of games and less well in others. I prefer a regular controller for some games and the wiimote for others. But I don't see it as the thing that magically will make every game great.

I see many comparisos between the Wii and the GC. When the GC came it was a lot cheaper than the Xbox and PS2. Everyone expected the GC to if not win at least easily beat the Xbox since people would get it as their second console regardless if they had a PS2 or a Xbox. And the GC sold well (almost as much as the Xbox). however - the problem with the GC as I see it is that it didn't get good third party support and in the end there were a big lack of games. Traveling around in Europe and the US I noticed that GC games where becoming scarce while the Xbox and the PS2 still had big areas in stores. i'm sure this was not so everywhere but in many countries like UK, Germany, Sweden etc. that is what I saw. So while the GC certainly has lots of great games it was loosing out against the quantity of PS2 and Xbox games. in the end. Not the AAA games but the AA and A games.

 I see a risk that it will be the same with the Wii. So far I haven't been that impressed with the non-party type of games. And I certainly haven't been impressed with the third-party games (for instance the Ubisoft games). Yes, there is a opportunity to do innovating stuff with games but how many companies will do it and even more important, how many will manage to do it well? If a large part of the non-Nintendo games are poorly utilizing the Wiimote then in my view it might be hurting the Wii more than helping it.

I also don't know if the demographics that Nintendo has targeted is the one that will buy lots of games. We keep hearing halleluja stories about wifes, familymembers etc. who never play games getting into Wii Sports etc. Let's say a lot of "new"-gamer picks it up. How many games will they keep buying compared to the more hardcore-gamers of the PS3/360?

So, i see a risk the Wii will end up like the GC. Selling a lot of hardware but not managing to sell as much games which in turns makes less third-party developers keen on working on the Wii (regardless if it is cheaper to develop for) which makes even less games come out and so on. A vicious cycle.

In this case I'm "the glas is half empty" kind of guy :). But hey, I think it would be great if it kept suceeding since I first and foremost am a gamer and want the best games on all plattforms.

[QUOTE="Kintaro_Oe_25"]
We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
CaseyWegner

ironically, the gc and xbox had the exact same number of AAA exclusives.

Who do you think you are, using logic and intelligence in SW? You'll kill half the members that read it.ithilgore2006

lol

So Krudus. If someone don't agree if you they should shut up? First of all, I own all three and I must say claiming that nonone will get tired of the controlling method, even if you called it "superior", is just plain dumb. In the end it is just another way of controlling games. It will not make games great by itself. Most of the great games on the DS are not great just because of the stylus, they would have been great with a regular controlloing method also. I personally think it works well in some typs of games and less well in others. I prefer a regular controller for some games and the wiimote for others. But I don't see it as the thing that magically will make every game great.

I see many comparisos between the Wii and the GC. When the GC came it was a lot cheaper than the Xbox and PS2. Everyone expected the GC to if not win at least easily beat the Xbox since people would get it as their second console regardless if they had a PS2 or a Xbox. And the GC sold well (almost as much as the Xbox). however - the problem with the GC as I see it is that it didn't get good third party support and in the end there were a big lack of games. Traveling around in Europe and the US I noticed that GC games where becoming scarce while the Xbox and the PS2 still had big areas in stores. i'm sure this was not so everywhere but in many countries like UK, Germany, Sweden etc. that is what I saw. So while the GC certainly has lots of great games it was loosing out against the quantity of PS2 and Xbox games. in the end. Not the AAA games but the AA and A games.

I see a risk that it will be the same with the Wii. So far I haven't been that impressed with the non-party type of games. And I certainly haven't been impressed with the third-party games (for instance the Ubisoft games). Yes, there is a opportunity to do innovating stuff with games but how many companies will do it and even more important, how many will manage to do it well? If a large part of the non-Nintendo games are poorly utilizing the Wiimote then in my view it might be hurting the Wii more than helping it.

I also don't know if the demographics that Nintendo has targeted is the one that will buy lots of games. We keep hearing halleluja stories about wifes, familymembers etc. who never play games getting into Wii Sports etc. Let's say a lot of "new"-gamer picks it up. How many games will they keep buying compared to the more hardcore-gamers of the PS3/360?

So, i see a risk the Wii will end up like the GC. Selling a lot of hardware but not managing to sell as much games which in turns makes less third-party developers keen on working on the Wii (regardless if it is cheaper to develop for) which makes even less games come out and so on. A vicious cycle.

In this case I'm "the glas is half empty" kind of guy :). But hey, I think it would be great if it kept suceeding since I first and foremost am a gamer and want the best games on all plattforms.

SwedBear

So there's Metroid Prime, SSBB, SMG, and then...ummmm... what else that even has the slimmest chance at AAA?D0wnfall1

Here are the reasons why the Wii will have the least amount of quality games
.. 1.the GC had like 2 total good games - any prove
2.The Wii is mostly getting crappy PS2 ports - false
3.The Wii isn't getting one good multi platform game(Oblivion,GRAW2,FEAR,Rainbow  - isix:Vegas,GTA4,Assasins Creed,Unreal Tournament 3, Half Life Orange, every big multi platform game you can think of will not be on the Wii.. - speaking too sooon

4. None existent 3rd party support - thats why devleoprs are fixing there mistake and going to wii :|

Huxley_00

dosent understand anything

[QUOTE="Kintaro_Oe_25"]
We all know GC had more than 2 good games, which is what made it better than xbox, but there are a lot of games in your list that I would consider awful.
CaseyWegner

ironically, the gc and xbox had the exact same number of AAA exclusives.

hmm thanks Casey i didnt know that.

So Krudus. If someone don't agree if you they should shut up? First of all, I own all three and I must say claiming that nonone will get tired of the controlling method, even if you called it "superior", is just plain dumb. In the end it is just another way of controlling games. It will not make games great by itself. Most of the great games on the DS are not great just because of the stylus, they would have been great with a regular controlloing method also. I personally think it works well in some typs of games and less well in others. I prefer a regular controller for some games and the wiimote for others. But I don't see it as the thing that magically will make every game great.

I see many comparisos between the Wii and the GC. When the GC came it was a lot cheaper than the Xbox and PS2. Everyone expected the GC to if not win at least easily beat the Xbox since people would get it as their second console regardless if they had a PS2 or a Xbox. And the GC sold well (almost as much as the Xbox). however - the problem with the GC as I see it is that it didn't get good third party support and in the end there were a big lack of games. Traveling around in Europe and the US I noticed that GC games where becoming scarce while the Xbox and the PS2 still had big areas in stores. i'm sure this was not so everywhere but in many countries like UK, Germany, Sweden etc. that is what I saw. So while the GC certainly has lots of great games it was loosing out against the quantity of PS2 and Xbox games. in the end. Not the AAA games but the AA and A games.

I see a risk that it will be the same with the Wii. So far I haven't been that impressed with the non-party type of games. And I certainly haven't been impressed with the third-party games (for instance the Ubisoft games). Yes, there is a opportunity to do innovating stuff with games but how many companies will do it and even more important, how many will manage to do it well? If a large part of the non-Nintendo games are poorly utilizing the Wiimote then in my view it might be hurting the Wii more than helping it.

I also don't know if the demographics that Nintendo has targeted is the one that will buy lots of games. We keep hearing halleluja stories about wifes, familymembers etc. who never play games getting into Wii Sports etc. Let's say a lot of "new"-gamer picks it up. How many games will they keep buying compared to the more hardcore-gamers of the PS3/360?

So, i see a risk the Wii will end up like the GC. Selling a lot of hardware but not managing to sell as much games which in turns makes less third-party developers keen on working on the Wii (regardless if it is cheaper to develop for) which makes even less games come out and so on. A vicious cycle.

In this case I'm "the glas is half empty" kind of guy :). But hey, I think it would be great if it kept suceeding since I first and foremost am a gamer and want the best games on all plattforms.

SwedBear