Why Vita games will never be as good as 3DS games

Nintendo takes an AAA game, and gives it an AAA studio.

Sony takes its AAA games, and then gives it some old second-tier studio that never does justice to the original games. This was common with the PSP and is becoming increasingly common with the Vita.

UC: Golden Abyss - SCE BEND instead of Naughty Dog

Resistance: Burning Skies: Nihilistic software instead of Insomiac.

SCE Bend is good, but not as great as Naughty Dog. Of course the games will dissapoint.

Nihilistic flat out sucks, they haven't had a game score above 70 on metacritic, in ten years.

Meanwhile, Nintendo gives their AAA teams a 3DS Dev kit, and in return, we get AAA games.

sony does not support the vita this is why 3ds is a better system. it usually take sony around 2 1/2 years to support a system they released just like they did in the ps3. the vita early years will be crap.

Nintendo takes an AAA game, and gives it an AAA studio.

Sony takes its AAA games, and then gives it some old second-tier studio that never does justice to the original games. This was common with the PSP and is becoming increasingly common with the Vita.

UC: Golden Abyss - SCE BEND instead of Naughty Dog

Resistance: Burning Skies: Nihilistic software instead of Insomiac.

SCE Bend is good, but not as great as Naughty Dog. Of course the games will dissapoint.

Nihilistic flat out sucks, they haven't had a game score above 70 on metacritic, in ten years.

Meanwhile, Nintendo gives their AAA teams a 3DS Dev kit, and in return, we get AAA games.

bluemantan

[QUOTE="bluemantan"]

Nintendo takes an AAA game, and gives it an AAA studio.

Sony takes its AAA games, and then gives it some old second-tier studio that never does justice to the original games. This was common with the PSP and is becoming increasingly common with the Vita.

UC: Golden Abyss - SCE BEND instead of Naughty Dog

Resistance: Burning Skies: Nihilistic software instead of Insomiac.

SCE Bend is good, but not as great as Naughty Dog. Of course the games will dissapoint.

Nihilistic flat out sucks, they haven't had a game score above 70 on metacritic, in ten years.

Meanwhile, Nintendo gives their AAA teams a 3DS Dev kit, and in return, we get AAA games.

danish-death

[QUOTE="danish-death"][QUOTE="bluemantan"]

Nintendo takes an AAA game, and gives it an AAA studio.

Sony takes its AAA games, and then gives it some old second-tier studio that never does justice to the original games. This was common with the PSP and is becoming increasingly common with the Vita.

UC: Golden Abyss - SCE BEND instead of Naughty Dog

Resistance: Burning Skies: Nihilistic software instead of Insomiac.

SCE Bend is good, but not as great as Naughty Dog. Of course the games will dissapoint.

Nihilistic flat out sucks, they haven't had a game score above 70 on metacritic, in ten years.

Meanwhile, Nintendo gives their AAA teams a 3DS Dev kit, and in return, we get AAA games.

bluemantan

Different opinions I suppose, but I wouldn't write Resistance off yet. While I highly doubt it'll get 9+ here on gamespot, I don't think it's unreasonable that it'll get 8-8.5, which is fine by me, as long as it doesn't get around the 5-6/10 mark. Anyway, as I said I hope we'll be seeing some love for the PS Vita at E3, Sony might just surprise us.

04-29-2012

dude you forgot to mention gravity rush and lbp

these are very promising titles coming out in the next months

I agree, they keep giving amazing IPs to lower class Studios to make them.

From what i read Gravity Rush is by far the best handheld game out right now.

sony does not support the vita this is why 3ds is a better system. it usually take sony around 2 1/2 years to support a system they released just like they did in the ps3. the vita early years will be crap.

pc-ps360

You know you clearly have no clue what you are talking about right?

Counting US releases:

Nintendo has published 11 3DS games to date. (1 year 1 month)

Sony has published 13 Vita games to date. (2 months)

Cleary Sony isn't supporting the Vita :roll:

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

sony does not support the vita this is why 3ds is a better system. it usually take sony around 2 1/2 years to support a system they released just like they did in the ps3. the vita early years will be crap.

CajunShooter

You know you clearly have no clue what you are talking about right?

Counting US releases:

Nintendo has published 11 3DS games to date. (1 year 1 month)

Sony has published 13 Vita games to date. (2 months)

Cleary Sony isn't supporting the Vita :roll:

I did

• Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends
• Pilotwings Resort
• Steel Diver
• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
• Star Fox 64 3D
• Flora and Fauna 3D Field Guide(Japan only)
• Pokémon Rumble Blast
• Super Mario 3D Land
• Tetris: Axis(Published by Nintendo in North America only)
• Mario Kart 7
• 2012
  • Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games(Published by Nintendo in Japan only)
  • Kid Icarus: Uprising
  • Spirit Camera: The Cursed Memoir
• Nintendo 3DS eShop
  • 2011
    • Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive!
    • Pushmo
  • 2012
    • Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword
    • Dillon's Rolling Western
    • Ketzal's Corridors

a quick google search an got 13 in NA and 18 in Japan published by Nintendo.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

sony does not support the vita this is why 3ds is a better system. it usually take sony around 2 1/2 years to support a system they released just like they did in the ps3. the vita early years will be crap.

LaytonsCat

You know you clearly have no clue what you are talking about right?

Counting US releases:

Nintendo has published 11 3DS games to date. (1 year 1 month)

Sony has published 13 Vita games to date. (2 months)

Cleary Sony isn't supporting the Vita :roll:

I did

• Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: Golden Retriever & New Friends
• Nintendogs + Cats: Toy Poodle & New Friends
• Pilotwings Resort
• Steel Diver
• The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
• Star Fox 64 3D
• Flora and Fauna 3D Field Guide(Japan only)
• Pokémon Rumble Blast
• Super Mario 3D Land
• Tetris: Axis(Published by Nintendo in North America only)
• Mario Kart 7
• 2012
  • Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games(Published by Nintendo in Japan only)
  • Kid Icarus: Uprising
  • Spirit Camera: The Cursed Memoir
• Nintendo 3DS eShop
  • 2011
    • Freakyforms: Your Creations, Alive!
    • Pushmo
  • 2012
    • Sakura Samurai: Art of the Sword
    • Dillon's Rolling Western
    • Ketzal's Corridors

a quick google search an got 13 in NA and 18 in Japan published by Nintendo.

This still debunks the original post that Sony isn't supporting the Vita. They are supporting it more than Nintendo has with the 3DS

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

sony does not support the vita this is why 3ds is a better system. it usually take sony around 2 1/2 years to support a system they released just like they did in the ps3. the vita early years will be crap.

CajunShooter

You know you clearly have no clue what you are talking about right?

Counting US releases:

Nintendo has published 11 3DS games to date. (1 year 1 month)

Sony has published 13 Vita games to date. (2 months)

Cleary Sony isn't supporting the Vita :roll:

i thought cows are all about quality games. vita has no games. in 2+ years sony will start supporting the system. just like they did the ps3 and the psp. they had no games and no support at all. sony is a failure the last success is the ps2 and now look at them. they lost over 75@ of there fanbase because they have no game and there lack of support for there systems. i dont want games at the end of the gen, i want them consistently just like what nintendo and microsoft does.

i thought cows are all about quality games. vita has no games. in 2+ years sony will start supporting the system. just like they did the ps3 and the psp. they had no games and no support at all. sony is a failure the last success is the ps2 and now look at them. they lost over 75@ of there fanbase because they have no game and there lack of support for there systems. i dont want games at the end of the gen, i want them consistently just like what nintendo and microsoft does.

pc-ps360

I totally agree that PS3 and PSP had hardly any Sony support for its first year or so on the market, but they have made it a priority to launch the Vita with games from most of their most popular franchises.

I totally agree that PS3 and PSP had hardly any Sony support for its first year or so on the market, but they have made it a priority to launch the Vita with games from most of their most popular franchises.

CajunShooter

A lot of those games were on other platforms already, that play better and have a lower barrier to entry than the Vita does.

It might have had a lot of big names, but it wasn't the smartest idea for pulling in consumers.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

I totally agree that PS3 and PSP had hardly any Sony support for its first year or so on the market, but they have made it a priority to launch the Vita with games from most of their most popular franchises.

Haziqonfire

A lot of those games were on other platforms already, that play better and have a lower barrier to entry than the Vita does.

It might have had a lot of big names, but it wasn't the smartest idea for pulling in consumers.

The only games that also appear on the PS3 would be Wipeout, Hustle Kings, Motorstorm RC and MLB: The Show. Every other Sony published game is an entirely new entry in the franchise.

You can also apply what you just said to 3DS games.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

[QUOTE="pc-ps360"]

sony does not support the vita this is why 3ds is a better system. it usually take sony around 2 1/2 years to support a system they released just like they did in the ps3. the vita early years will be crap.

pc-ps360

You know you clearly have no clue what you are talking about right?

Counting US releases:

Nintendo has published 11 3DS games to date. (1 year 1 month)

Sony has published 13 Vita games to date. (2 months)

Cleary Sony isn't supporting the Vita :roll:

i thought cows are all about quality games. vita has no games. in 2+ years sony will start supporting the system. just like they did the ps3 and the psp. they had no games and no support at all. sony is a failure the last success is the ps2 and now look at them. they lost over 75@ of there fanbase because they have no game and there lack of support for there systems. i dont want games at the end of the gen, i want them consistently just like what nintendo and microsoft does.

Not sure what you mean by this.

The only games that also appear on the PS3 would be Wipeout, Hustle Kings, Motorstorm RC and MLB: The Show. Every other Sony published game is an entirely new entry in the franchise.

You can also apply what you just said to 3DS games.

CajunShooter

I'm saying there's a lot of ports or console games on the Vita. If you want console games on the go then you'd be fine with that. I don't see the point, as I can buy most of those games on consoles for a lot cheaper, unless a game makes a good portable version. Wipeout would be an example of that, Street Fighter would also be one.

Yes, this applies to the 3DS too - but it's a lot less reliant on ports to sell it's platform, that was even obvious looking forward into the future line up. It's less obvious with the Vita so far.

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"]

Not sure what you mean by this.

The only games that also appear on the PS3 would be Wipeout, Hustle Kings, Motorstorm RC and MLB: The Show. Every other Sony published game is an entirely new entry in the franchise.

You can also apply what you just said to 3DS games.

Haziqonfire

I'm saying there's a lot of ports or console games on the Vita. If you want console games on the go then you'd be fine with that. I don't see the point, as I can buy most of those games on consoles for a lot cheaper, unless a game makes a good portable version. Wipeout would be an example of that, Street Fighter would also be one.

Yes, this applies to the 3DS too - but it's a lot less reliant on ports to sell it's platform, that was even obvious looking forward into the future line up. It's less obvious with the Vita so far.

From what i read Gravity Rush is by far the best handheld game out right now.

crimsonman1245

Only game on the Vita that looks good since its from the director of Silen Hill.

I'm saying there's a lot of ports or console games on the Vita. If you want console games on the go then you'd be fine with that. I don't see the point, as I can buy most of those games on consoles for a lot cheaper, unless a game makes a good portable version. Wipeout would be an example of that, Street Fighter would also be one.

Yes, this applies to the 3DS too - but it's a lot less reliant on ports to sell it's platform, that was even obvious looking forward into the future line up. It's less obvious with the Vita so far.

Haziqonfire

Yes, 4 or so of those 13 Sony Published games are ports, while the rest of the Sony published games are new entries into the franchises or new IPs. The 3DS also has ports too such as Ocarina 64 and Starfox 64.

This was never about 3rd party which a lot of the launch 3rd party games were ports. It was the same for the 3DS.

My point was never that the Vita's lineup is amazing. It was that I don't understand how people can praise the 3DS for Nintendo's support of it and then say Sony doesn't support the Vita when it is quite the opposite. So far at this point in the Vita's life it has been supported better than Nintendo did with the 3DS. Sony is supporting the Vita better than Nintendo is currently.

Sony made a real effort to support the Vita in the first year unlike they did with the PSP and the PS3 and the games they have ready during its first year and are publishing is proof of that.

Gravity Rush is about to prove you wrong. And who's responsible for LBP Vita?tarzanell

Yeah, not to mention Keji Inafune is working with SCEJ to make another VITA exclusive game.

In the west, the case has always been to have AAA SCEWWS work on console and have the "other" studios best fit another need on handhelds. SCE Bend seem to be getting a bad rep too. Bend did great with UCGA and at the end of the day it is results that matter.

Eventually, (if not already in the plans) someone from SCE's bigger studios like Media Molecule, Santa Monica, etc will do something for the VITA. I get the feeling that the projects AAA SCEWWS on VITA would be more along the lines of a Wii U-type project where the PS3 is being used in conjunction with VITA.

Edit: Last time I checked, a new SCE studio was working on LBP for VITA. It was founded by Ex-Rockstar members and is located in England.

Long as they do a good job I don't really care who made it. Psp had plenty of good games made by different devs, socom, resistance are good examples. I think sony wanted devs with portable experience which the original devs might not have had.p4s2p0

Yo! I gotcha on my VITA friends list.

Fancy seeing you here.

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]I'm saying there's a lot of ports or console games on the Vita. If you want console games on the go then you'd be fine with that. I don't see the point, as I can buy most of those games on consoles for a lot cheaper, unless a game makes a good portable version. Wipeout would be an example of that, Street Fighter would also be one.

Yes, this applies to the 3DS too - but it's a lot less reliant on ports to sell it's platform, that was even obvious looking forward into the future line up. It's less obvious with the Vita so far.

CajunShooter

Yes, 4 or so of those 13 Sony Published games are ports, while the rest of the Sony published games are new entries into the franchises or new IPs. The 3DS also has ports too such as Ocarina 64 and Starfox 64.

This was never about 3rd party which a lot of the launch 3rd party games were ports. It was the same for the 3DS.

My point was never that the Vita's lineup is amazing. It was that I don't understand how people can praise the 3DS for Nintendo's support of it and then say Sony doesn't support the Vita when it is quite the opposite. So far at this point in the Vita's life it has been supported better than Nintendo did with the 3DS. Sony is supporting the Vita better than Nintendo is currently.

Sony made a real effort to support the Vita in the first year unlike they did with the PSP and the PS3 and the games they have ready during its first year and are publishing is proof of that.

I would like to add to the point. There are "ports" on VITA that have cloud transferring technology and people are just acting like that is nothing when the online infrastucre net code alone for connecting the two experiences is huge feat.

Also, I wish I could play devils advocate and speak in favor of ports like those that say, "Why buy MK on VITA when I could buy it used on console for cheaper." Unfortunetly, I do not own a console to know about that kind of saving but I know well enough that I can have a hell of a time playing MK on the VITA so . . .

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]Long as they do a good job I don't really care who made it. Psp had plenty of good games made by different devs, socom, resistance are good examples. I think sony wanted devs with portable experience which the original devs might not have had.wakefulness

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Fancy seeing you here.

This was not about sony not making games. Sony makes games. The problem is, they use their B-list devs instead of their A-list devs like nintendo does.

[QUOTE="wakefulness"]

[QUOTE="p4s2p0"]Long as they do a good job I don't really care who made it. Psp had plenty of good games made by different devs, socom, resistance are good examples. I think sony wanted devs with portable experience which the original devs might not have had.p4s2p0

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Fancy seeing you here.

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