Why isn't there a Price Cut or a New PS4 model yet?

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#1 ProtossX
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Fact the PS4 Launched at 400 dollars in 2013 christmas

it is now approaching april 2015 not a single dim has been cut your paying a huge premium for old technology that people bought new years ago for the same price

even apple and companies like that reduce the prices on stuff all the time let alone years after this is disgusting

they have not remodeled the design at all the system is the same one that wobbled back at launch if you touch the back of it or near the dvd drive it wobbles an try to like hold it

thats the first thing you fix

apple fixes hardware all the timem with re-designs and make sure they are 100% non-wobbling an stuff

basically you need 350 dollar ps4 with blood borne attached

you need a slim model that is straight an flat like the xb1

and you need make your online cheaper id say 20 dollar for a year of psn is fine without the dumb ps+ titles i dont need them

what you guys think does sony have to do this to stay competitive

do they need 350 dollar new slim ps4 with bloodborne included with some maybe blood on the console an controller for collectors?

im not paying full price this late into the gen its just not gonna happen sony ill stick with xbox until u come to reality sony come to reality with us or im not coming over to ur system

it needs to not wobble it needs to be lower in price and the game needs to come with it imo

who agrees with me here?

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#2 lglz1337
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20m sold vs XposBone 9.155689m sold

there is your answer

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#3 clone01
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I dunno. Why are you still posting?

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#4  Edited By ProtossX
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@lglz1337 said:

20m sold vs XposBone 9.155689m sold

there is your answer

yes but they could be at like 40m by now if they were 350 an think of all those ppl buying games thru sonys store they would make more money if they had more people

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#5  Edited By lglz1337
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@ProtossX: sometimes amount of sales doesn't matter when you have more income with less.

sony selling hotcakes now wait untill it gets cold

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#6 Couth_
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probably because they had The Order, Bloodborne and MLB this quarter. They should really drop the price for Q3 to compete with xbone since it's mostly multiplats. Only in the US though. Other regions can stay the same..

Canada needs another price hike.. That dollar is getting dumped faster than noobs in bloodborne

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#7 DaVillain  Moderator
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Because there's no reason to have a price cut just yet nor for another year is my guess. PS4 is still the fastest selling console so what's the point of ever having a price cut? In case you didn't know, Amazon are doing deals regarding PS4 low price and bundle deals so the average joe should look for deals elsewhere, not from Sony themselves.

Why the hell do we need a new PS4 model? PS4 is as slim as you can get.

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#8 ProtossX
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@Couth_ said:

probably because they had The Order, Bloodborne and MLB this quarter. They should really drop the price for Q3 to compete with xbone since it's mostly multiplats. Only in the US though. Other regions can stay the same..

Canada needs another price hike.. That dollar is getting dumped faster than noobs in bloodborne

yeah man i agree maybe a price drop in a couple months then i just get ps4 with like bborne if its on sale or something

yeah canada price or europes can go up or stay the same all i care about is my USA price no offense other countries

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#9 MonsieurX
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There was one in Canada

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#10 lostrib
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You can find deals on the PS4 all the time

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#11 deactivated-583e460ca986b
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The PS4 is selling like hotcakes at it's current price. Why on earth would Sony drop it now? They will wait until the growth has slowed and want to stimulate things. "Because I can afford one then" isn't a good enough reason for Sony to get less money for their console.

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#12 Wasdie  Moderator
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There doesn't need to be yet. Until sales slow down significantly there is no real reason to drop the price.

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#14  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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It's selling like crack during the early 90's that's why.

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#15 Shewgenja
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Actually, commanding a premium and meeting market equilibrium is a sign of strength to an increasingly brand psychology driven market. It will, if at all likely, get a price reduction at E3 for maximum exposure as a promotion. If not, it will definitely get a price drop with the slim redesign which should be starting design and lab phase later in the fiscal year.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

People in ghettos don't have much but rest assure they have a new pair of Jordans, a nice 50"+ LCD and a PS4. No price cut needed if people are skipping rent payments and still buying it.

I was going to argue your "poor people have all this stuff" point but I can't. Not regarding the PS4 or people skipping rent payments anyway. Well maybe not the Jordans part either.....

They don't have PS+ though I bet!

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#17 True_Gamer_
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@Wasdie said:

There doesn't need to be yet. Until sales slow down significantly there is no real reason to drop the price.

Bottom of the barrel (hardware market) old tech is overpriced? Unlike last gen?

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#18 Heil68
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@lglz1337 said:

20m sold vs XposBone 9.155689m sold

there is your answer

Indeed.

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#19 cyclops10
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I got my PS4 for 300 euros with GTA 5 and The Last Of Us on Cyber Monday. Only scrubs pay 400 without a game.

Also, i hadn't played GTA 5 and The Last Of Us before this, those were two great games the do right after each other.

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#20 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Why would there be any?

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#21  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@True_Gamer_: If people are buying, why would you ever drop the price?

If you're profitable there is no reason to reduce your margins.

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#22 clone01
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@Wasdie said:

@True_Gamer_: If people are buying, why would you ever drop the price?

If you're profitable there is no reason to reduce your margins.

Yep. Price drops happen to move more units. PS4, I imagine, is doing pretty well.

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#23 ConanTheStoner
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Businesses don't operate on SW logic.

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#24 WilliamRLBaker
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Because they cannot afford to.

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#25 Shewgenja
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How long was the PS2 out before it got it's first price drop?

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#26 demon-returns
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just take look at msrp for ps3 and 360 and you'll see some models are still selling for as high $250.... and these consoles are almost a decade old.

good luck with a price cut

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#27 freedomfreak
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Because it's still flying off the shelves.

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#28  Edited By Riverwolf007
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because it is selling.

this is not the ps3 where they were pulling everything out of it and chucking it overboard to get the lifeboat to stay afloat just a bit longer.

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#29 princeofshapeir
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When it has some actual competition Sony may think about dropping the price

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#30 PurpleMan5000
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I'm pretty surprised they don't have a model with a bigger hard drive yet.

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#31 ProtossX
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

I'm pretty surprised they don't have a model with a bigger hard drive yet.

what was the deal with hard drives there was some drama about people not being able to add a hard drive into one of the consoles

i dunno which one all i know is like i heard ppl complaining that they couldn't get more space on one of the consoles

i know the xb1 has 1 terabyte model thats al i know tho could one use external hard drives or something?

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#32 PurpleMan5000
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@ProtossX said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

I'm pretty surprised they don't have a model with a bigger hard drive yet.

what was the deal with hard drives there was some drama about people not being able to add a hard drive into one of the consoles

i dunno which one all i know is like i heard ppl complaining that they couldn't get more space on one of the consoles

i know the xb1 has 1 terabyte model thats al i know tho could one use external hard drives or something?

It's great that you can add your own hard drive, but I shouldn't have to buy a 500 GB hard drive with the current PS4 SKU and then throw it away to do that, either.

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#33 ProtossX
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

@ProtossX said:

@PurpleMan5000 said:

I'm pretty surprised they don't have a model with a bigger hard drive yet.

what was the deal with hard drives there was some drama about people not being able to add a hard drive into one of the consoles

i dunno which one all i know is like i heard ppl complaining that they couldn't get more space on one of the consoles

i know the xb1 has 1 terabyte model thats al i know tho could one use external hard drives or something?

It's great that you can add your own hard drive, but I shouldn't have to buy a 500 GB hard drive with the current PS4 SKU and then throw it away to do that, either.

yah good point sony should give people options

even apple lets users choose like bigger hard drive model

wtf is sony thinkin give ppl options imo on hard drive space its simple even apple understands it i agree maybe the next ps4 slim can run in 2 diff sizes of space

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#34  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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Because it's selling. Seriously you need an answer to this?

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#35  Edited By Pray_to_me
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just sell your dudbox

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#36 coasterguy65
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The PS4 is only 16 months old? The console is selling quite well at it's current price point, so why would they cut the price? There will probably be a Slim model announced next year. Seems like Sony waits until year 3 for the Slim.

You can easily find a PS4 for $350 new if you look. There are also bundles with extra free games, and controllers. You just need to look. For example.....trade in a 360 or a PS3 and get $175 off of a PS4 at Gamestop. So basically a PS4, TLoU remastered, all for $225 plus tax. Wal-Mart is selling a TLoU PS4 bundle with an extra controller, and an extra game for $400. etc...etc. There are deals out there.

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#37 intotheminx
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Why would they drop the price when millions of people are still willing to pay $400? I'm sure Sony will cut the price once the sales begin to slow or stagger.

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#38  Edited By NyaDC
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@lglz1337 said:

20m sold vs XposBone 9.155689m sold

there is your answer

More like 21m vs. 13m+, cow...

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#39  Edited By SolidTy
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@ProtossX: Because it's selling at it's current price. Have you seen the PS4 sales? The PS4 is selling in huge numbers (20+ million). You drop the price to generate sales and they don't need to yet. If you are looking for a deal, I see good deals and bundles all the time.

Take an economics course. It was required in High School, maybe you dropped out?

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#40  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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@ConanTheStoner said:

Businesses don't operate on SW logic.

And lets hope they never do.

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#41 Nengo_Flow
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@lostrib said:

You can find deals on the PS4 all the time

this.

I every other week there is always deals everywhere that I get emails about.

Sony is making money on them and actually selling at a good rate. So they have no reason to lower the price. No one is really complaining about the price either, people were actually praising Sony for having that $400 price point.

Unless things start to go bad for the PS4 and/or M$'s X1 starts to be a threat, then it is then that can lower the price.

As far as to be asking for a new model? Geez... you want a slim so fast already? The PS4 is already pretty small, idk what they can do to redesign it to justify producing a new model. Im sure there will be a slim down the line but... atleast give it another year man.

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#42  Edited By superbuuman
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Simple.. no reason to price cut, when its still selling well. :P

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#43 funkmaster1233
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Sony don't even need to release any games to sell the PS4. Why would they do a price cut?

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#44 SecretPolice  Online
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Greedy Sony, it should be $299.99 by now when compared to the superior X1. :P

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#45  Edited By bforrester420
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As a consumer...sure, I agree with you. Getting the same thing while paying less is always great as a consumer.

From Sony's perspective, why would you cut the price on a system that is selling incredibly well at its current price point? $400 seems to be its equilibrium price at the moment....

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@Wasdie said:

There doesn't need to be yet. Until sales slow down significantly there is no real reason to drop the price.

This.

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#47 _SWAG_
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<b>Ill dis short ps4 is the only system that never need a price cut because there's no compition they're number 1 in sales n games why should they cut price they ain't desperate like m$ n xbone. treal gamers will buy ps4 at any price because Sony Continiusly Honestly Won Another Gen SCHWAG!!!</b>

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#48  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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WTF do you want a new model for?

What is wrong with console gamers? your as bad as Apple fans... "I wanna buy a new version thats 10% tinner, and 25% more HDD space for barely cheaper!"

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#49 True_Gamer_
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@Wasdie said:

@True_Gamer_: If people are buying, why would you ever drop the price?

If you're profitable there is no reason to reduce your margins.

Lets see in late 2016...

Selling 2009 tech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EJs-0VNsZU 7 years later wont go down well I predict...

New Xbx will come in 2017...By that time the Xbone tech will be 8 years old....normal age for a console,...

When they sold 2008 tech (aka unified shader GPU at $100-150 pricepoint launched in 2008 9600GT) in 2005 it was impressive...

Now they are selling 2009 tech in 2013....

Anyway we wait and see.

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#50 Bubba_666
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They aren't desperate like Microsoft, they don't need price cuts to sell. MS messed up, they've had to get rid of the kinect, free up esdram for graphical (sorta) improvements, price drop, to many bundles, gimmicks like backwards com., DX12, Windows 10, and the list goes on. If they would have made the console "correctly" the first time around, they wouldn't have to worry about sales. Simple fact Sony put a more power GPU, better RAM, and just an overall system for GAMERS. There's your answer in a nutshell. It's like Infinity vs Hyundai.