Why is the new disc less xb1s expensive as fu....

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#1 Posted by Daredevils2k (2004 posts) -

Just a darn shame

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#2 Posted by Telekill (8402 posts) -

Not watching the video. How expensive is it?

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#3 Posted by MonsieurX (38982 posts) -

@Telekill said:

Not watching the video. How expensive is it?

Speaking of the package, the leaked box/banner art also suggests three pre-installed digital edition games. Namely Minecraft, Sea of Thieves and Forza Horizon 3. Last, but not least, the source claims a retail price of EUR 229.99 for the Microsoft Xbox One S All Digital and a launch date of May 7 in Europe.

https://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_xbox_one_s_all_digital_leak_shows_a_new_diskless_console_is_on_the_way-news-36543.php

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#4 Posted by storm_of_swords (2742 posts) -

I don't know, but I'm glad. I want this and any other digital only console to fail.

Long live physical media!

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#5 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (12720 posts) -

Why would anyone buy a discless console anyway? I don't understand the thought process of wanting to limit your options. Going all-digital is the most forced hipster trend I've ever seen in gaming.

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#6 Edited by Archangel3371 (27551 posts) -

Yeah that definitely doesn’t seem to be worth it in my opinion however I’m glad because I greatly prefer getting my games on physical formats so seeing something like this makes me hopeful that we probably won’t be going to a digital only future anytime soon.

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#7 Posted by MonsieurX (38982 posts) -

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Why would anyone buy a discless console anyway? I don't understand the thought process of wanting to limit your options. Going all-digital is the most forced hipster trend I've ever seen in gaming.

Diskless + game pass

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#8 Posted by Vaidream45 (1844 posts) -

If this is above $199 in the states it’s gonna fail hard.

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#9 Posted by ZmanBarzel (1792 posts) -

I would've preferred a 2TB hard drive, but I understand cutting corners to meet a price point. Yeah, $200 USD seems quite likely at launch, with a $150-$170 sale for the holidays.

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#10 Posted by Chutebox (44477 posts) -

What's 230 in real people money (dollars)?

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#11 Posted by Ezekiel43 (1396 posts) -

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Why would anyone buy a discless console anyway? I don't understand the thought process of wanting to limit your options. Going all-digital is the most forced hipster trend I've ever seen in gaming.

It's funny... Someone in a thread of mine today called disc collectors hipsters.

https://www.gamespot.com/forums/offtopic-discussion-314159273/another-great-argument-for-physical-media-33456687/?page=1#js-message-356182800

I'm with you, though. I'm not gonna trust Sony with all my games. I already lost two PSN accounts, one of which had a small number of purchases.

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#12 Posted by I_P_Daily (11389 posts) -

@Chutebox said:

What's 230 in real people money (dollars)?

230 in real peoples money is 230, don't be so lazy and figure out what its worth in non real peoples money.

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#13 Posted by I_P_Daily (11389 posts) -

@storm_of_swords said:

I don't know, but I'm glad. I want this and any other digital only console to fail.

Long live physical media!

100% agree.

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#14 Posted by DaVillain- (35989 posts) -

Honestly, I don't know why MS offer this when they know Xbox Scarlet is in development. Waste of resource and anyone who already owns Xbox One S/X wouldn't trade for a digital only console. Sure I went total digital at the start of this gen (sure as hell don't regretted) but even I know some gamers prefer physical purchase but a truly digital only console is not ready for prime time. I really don't want to see digital only version for Xbox Scarlet, let the consumer decide to use physical or digital on Xbox Scarlet.

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#15 Posted by mojito1988 (3528 posts) -

This is going to cost more than Xbox 1S? That is just plain weird.

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#16 Posted by rmpumper (555 posts) -

Looks like MS is still pushing for the no second hand games policy.

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#17 Edited by BenjaminBanklin (4331 posts) -

Does anyone even pay more than $200 bucks for an Xbox One S these days? They're always on sale somewhere. Seems like just another pointless revision in the end.

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#18 Edited by pmanden (584 posts) -

Limiting the consumer's options is never a good idea, and this new disc-less console is far too expensive to be interesting. I'd rather just buy a standard Xbox S instead. Besides, I prefer psysical media. The only games I buy digitally are bargains that I expect to only play for 10 hours or so, e.g. Outlast 2.

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#19 Posted by Ant_17 (12086 posts) -

You might as well buy a used S with a broken disc drive. Way more cheaper.

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#20 Posted by npiet1 (2049 posts) -

@Ant_17: I was going to say the same thing, mine disc tray is broken. but I dont really use it. I've got a PC.

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#21 Posted by Pedro (33896 posts) -

Game Discs...

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#22 Posted by sealionact (3788 posts) -

As long as it's MS offering an all digital solution, I'd be in if I wasnt already invested in an x1x. Sonys new draconian policies on digital titles tell me they're going to be in trouble when competing with MS and Google, or they're going to be changing their policies again.

Steam has shown that people dont have a problem with digital....that's not the problem. Problem for me is the timing. Hardcore xbox people are looking forward to next gen already, no current xbox owner will buy it. Also expect it to drop to 199 pretty quickly.

Sooner we get rid of discs, the better for me...

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#23 Posted by I_P_Daily (11389 posts) -

@Pedro said:

Game Discs...

Digital

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#24 Edited by robert_sparkes (2906 posts) -

This wont sell it needed to be £150-160.

They aren't exactly flying off the shelves to begin with.

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#25 Edited by rzxv04 (541 posts) -

I smell $ 129 Black Friday.

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#26 Posted by cainetao11 (36491 posts) -

Because its a stupid idea

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#27 Posted by SaltSlasher (997 posts) -

People realize that the current One S's "price" is $299, yet any day of the week can get for $250 and black friday $200.

Pre-usual, this pre-mature tripping out over basic information is making the dumb people rounds, just like when Xbox announced the keyboard and mouse setup. It's likely gonna be $199 any day of the week, and since people can't read pictures, it's coming with Minecraft, Forza and Sea of Thieves, so even if $250, that's a decent deal....at least for anyone who doesn't have physical.

If I had a base Xbox, I'd trade in all my physical and upgrade to this Xbox, I did same thing last gen, but for a PS3.

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#28 Posted by Gatygun (1428 posts) -

It's only released so people can get used to the idea of physical going out fo the the door next generation.

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#29 Posted by Clefdefa (717 posts) -

Anyone remember the cute PSP go ?

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#30 Posted by speedytimsi (925 posts) -

There is a USB drive...let me plug in my USB Blu-ray drive and watch movies...

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#31 Posted by robert_sparkes (2906 posts) -

Apparently has minecraft and forza 3 pre installed but £200 is too expensive. MS are completely missing the point.

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#32 Posted by Howmakewood (5790 posts) -

Removing the only good part about the device(4k blu-ray player), this makes a lot of sense.

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#33 Edited by DragonfireXZ95 (25195 posts) -
@saltslasher said:

People realize that the current One S's "price" is $299, yet any day of the week can get for $250 and black friday $200.

Pre-usual, this pre-mature tripping out over basic information is making the dumb people rounds, just like when Xbox announced the keyboard and mouse setup. It's likely gonna be $199 any day of the week, and since people can't read pictures, it's coming with Minecraft, Forza and Sea of Thieves, so even if $250, that's a decent deal....at least for anyone who doesn't have physical.

If I had a base Xbox, I'd trade in all my physical and upgrade to this Xbox, I did same thing last gen, but for a PS3.

Yes, the S is 299, but it comes with either Anthem, or Forza Horizon 4, two newer 60 dollar games. Also, it's still a 1 TB version with a disc drive.

This new Xbox One D(igital) is clearly overpriced if it releases at 250. Old games + no disc drive. It should start at 200 max, unless it comes with a free month of Xbox Live, then 219.99 could be a fair value. You can't even play Sea of Thieves unless you get Xbox Live.

I could also see 249.99 being fair if they gave you a 2 TB hard drive. Seriously, I don't understand the whole HDD thing. Why are consoles still giving you such little space in 2019? I can buy a 2 TB 7200 RPM HDD for 65 bucks now-a-days.

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#34 Posted by AJStyles (735 posts) -

Microsoft keeps on screwing up.

It is amazing how they can mess up so badly when we are telling them how to succeed. They ignore us and do the opposite.

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#35 Posted by Mandzilla (4018 posts) -

I dunno if the price is finalised yet, but how come it's the same physical size as the regular disc version Xbox One S? Am I missing something or just being stupid, honestly thought it would be more compact.

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#36 Posted by robert_sparkes (2906 posts) -

How can they take out the disc drive and stay the same price. Bizarre if true.

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#37 Posted by SecretPolice (35068 posts) -

Relax, this sucker will be selling for $99.99 by Christmas. :P

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#38 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (8346 posts) -

Well, regarding one point he made: 'why would you convert the physical to digital when you only have 1TB'. Well, you add them to your account library and then delete and install as you want like Steam. But tbh, games are a bit too big for that these days. The average broadband speed isn't fast enough to constantly download 20 to 50GB+ games.

That said, it's a silly console to buy at that price. Also, I don't feel comfortable trusting the big three to keep their game prices fair. I trust 'digital only' gaming on the PC only tbh.

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#39 Posted by Draign (1823 posts) -

I have a console at my home and also one at one at my girlfriends house. Because of this I only buy digital. I am not lugging disks around with me everywhere I go. I used to be hardcore against digital-only, but its all about convenience.

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#40 Posted by robert_sparkes (2906 posts) -

The only way this console would have been relevant is if it was cheaper than the standard consoles. Nobody is buying a £250 disc less console.

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#41 Posted by sts106mat (24873 posts) -

This seems like they are testing the waters for a full on digital only next gen. if it flops, they will keep the disc drive option.

Personally i am more digital now than i ever thought i would be when it comes to gaming. Still, i dont want to see then end of physical media anytime soon.

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#42 Posted by lamprey263 (36039 posts) -

Instead of bundling games they should give vouchers to XBL Gold and Game Pass, since the pre-installed games are all part of the Game Pass line-up anyways. Also, they should have shot for flat $200, for $250 a disc sysyem isn't much more

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#43 Posted by kuu2 (11108 posts) -

Travel Xbox is awesome.

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#45 Posted by iambatman7986 (2763 posts) -

Man I hope this sells like hotcakes. Game discs need to die!!! Just kidding of course, though I only buy physical if it is dirt cheap.

For HDD size on this thing, all games need to be installed to played either way. Just look at day one download sizes. Some games need to download 40-50 gb for installation to complete, that sounds like the disk is mainly empty to me. Game disks are basically there to allow access at this point.

Either way, digital is the future. Most other mediums are adopting it, video games will follow suit, it is only a matter of time.

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#46 Posted by pdogg93 (1526 posts) -

Microflop continues to impress me with how clueless they are

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#47 Posted by uninspiredcup (32731 posts) -

They are reaching mega-cd levels of stupidity.

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#48 Posted by bgres077 (12633 posts) -

Hard pass. In 5 years when they shut down Game Pass servers this is a completely worthless box.

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#49 Posted by Pedro (33896 posts) -

@bgres077 said:

Hard pass. In 5 years when they shut down Game Pass servers this is a completely worthless box.

So true because you can't download games digitally only through Game Pass. :|

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#50 Posted by emgesp (7830 posts) -
@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@saltslasher said:

People realize that the current One S's "price" is $299, yet any day of the week can get for $250 and black friday $200.

Pre-usual, this pre-mature tripping out over basic information is making the dumb people rounds, just like when Xbox announced the keyboard and mouse setup. It's likely gonna be $199 any day of the week, and since people can't read pictures, it's coming with Minecraft, Forza and Sea of Thieves, so even if $250, that's a decent deal....at least for anyone who doesn't have physical.

If I had a base Xbox, I'd trade in all my physical and upgrade to this Xbox, I did same thing last gen, but for a PS3.

Yes, the S is 299, but it comes with either Anthem, or Forza Horizon 4, two newer 60 dollar games. Also, it's still a 1 TB version with a disc drive.

This new Xbox One D(igital) is clearly overpriced if it releases at 250. Old games + no disc drive. It should start at 200 max, unless it comes with a free month of Xbox Live, then 219.99 could be a fair value. You can't even play Sea of Thieves unless you get Xbox Live.

I could also see 249.99 being fair if they gave you a 2 TB hard drive. Seriously, I don't understand the whole HDD thing. Why are consoles still giving you such little space in 2019? I can buy a 2 TB 7200 RPM HDD for 65 bucks now-a-days.

The S is $232 on Amazon not $299.99 making the Discless XB1 S even a more lol with its $250 price point. Only a moron would buy the discless version for more money than the disc based version for less.