Why is Kingdom Come Deliverance being underestimated?

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#1  Edited By texasgoldrush
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This game looks damn revolutionary, being the first real medieval non fantasy RPG ever (Mount and Blade does not count), based on historical fact, from the story to its world, to its combat.

This game can make the entire industry look at RPGs differently, because simply put, you cannot play this game like a normal RPG. In KCD, you will never become a super warrior, you will never find phat loot that powers you through the game, your fighting skill matters just as much as you loadout (and sometimes avoiding fights is better), and you have to plan for everything or you will die. You will not be able to slash through plate armor with a sword unlike most RPGs. Bows are some of the deadliest weapons in the game. As well, armor can not only slow you down, but helmets obscure your vision. Food rots, weapon and armor breaks, and there is actually a skill to read. There are no reliance on map markers or special senses either, this game does not hold your hand and expects you to figure things out yourself.

The immersive sim aspects look to be ambitious as well. People become suspicious after you steal from them, so much so that it is a bad idea to sell an item you just stole In the area. People react to what you are wearing and if you are dirty and bloody. You can disguise yourself as well. Quests have multiple solutions and outcomes, more so than say, the Witcher 3. And people will not wait for you, if you go off and explore and do other quests, they can leave without you and even complete the quest themselves. Fast travel can also be interrupted by ambushes and events.

Yet, the game sites aren't hyping it much weeks before release. its a kind of game that seems to me that critics will nitpick and underscore, but gamers will consider later (if they do not have some blunder we don't know about), a cult classic that will impact the RPG genre going forward.

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#2 UssjTrunks
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Never heard of it. Sounds pretty interesting.

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#3 texasgoldrush
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@UssjTrunks said:

Never heard of it. Sounds pretty interesting.

http://www.pcgamer.com/being-a-nobody-is-better-than-saving-the-day-in-historical-rpg-kingdom-come-deliverance/

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#4 DragonfireXZ95
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Because it's a multiplat. It would be getting a crap ton more attention if it were an exclusive. I backed it in the kickstarter way back in the day; I'm excited for it.

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#6 Syn_Valence
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I WANT THIS GAME INSIDE ME....NOW!!!!

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#7 Howmakewood
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I'm still on the fences with this, it either succeeds or dies with the combat for me

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#8 knight-k
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My most hyped game of the year.

It's so innovating, could be a hit or miss.

Regardless, will buy.

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#9  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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I am keeping an eye on this title. I guess we shall see.

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#10  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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Im excited for it. its made by guys behind mafia 1. plus its finally RPG with no third person crap, no medieval fantasy crap. its fresh game with historical setting.

games like dark souls/witcher/dragon age has been done to death so many times.

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#11 KungfuKitten
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Have you guys heard of the hands on demo with the monks? You have to memorize bible prayer things and get up at the appropriate times and stuff. Haha, this game sounds like it will go pretty far in making you do things for the sim-element of it. I'm interested but I'm not sure that I will pretend to be a monk for hours.

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#12 PAL360
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KCD looks amazing, but i think it's a good thing it's not being overhyped. We all know what happens to games when they don't 100% meet people personal expectations.

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#13  Edited By NoodleFighter
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Oh crap I almost forgot about it, I hope it does well I got too many games at the moment to focus on it yet. I love how one of the founders for the game wrecked a SJW journalist from Polygon.

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#14 Ghosts4ever
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@NoodleFighter said:

Oh crap I almost forgot about it, I hope it does well I got too many games at the moment to focus on it yet. I love one of the founders for the game wrecked a SJW journalist from Polygon.

it also looks like 10 times better than witcher 3.

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#15  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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The game looks very good and I like the sound of the roleplaying aspects. I also want to give a shout out to how the map works in the game. My only worry is that combat looks quite wonky. It looks to have the same issue Skyrim has in that game-feel doesn't look particularly great. It appears hard to tell if you've actually made contact with the enemy.

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@NoodleFighter said:

Oh crap I almost forgot about it, I hope it does well I got too many games at the moment to focus on it yet. I love how one of the founders for the game wrecked a SJW journalist from Polygon.

Lol, there's a thread on ERA about this.

Mass triggering and a lot of Reseters going to boycot the game it seems.

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#17  Edited By borninblood60
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I have kept my eye on this game for awhile. Looking forward to it.

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#18 Todddow
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I've been looking forward to this for a long time. I can't wait to finally get it.

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#19  Edited By deactivated-5c1d0901c2aec
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@howmakewood: The combat doesn't look too good but I think the surrounding roleplaying elements and exploration do look great, and I think those could potentially mitigate the combat. Basically, similar to most open world action RPGs except the roleplaying looks very strong here!

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#20 Vaeh
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Because it's another Kickstarter scam, indie garbage & multiplatform game.

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#21  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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Am I the only one who thinks it doesn't look that good? I don't understand why people are talking it up so hard. I like the IDEA of a "realistic" non-fantasy medieval RPG like this, but I haven't seen anything that impressive yet. Definitely a "wait and see" for me

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#22 commander
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@xantufrog said:

Am I the only one who thinks it doesn't look that good? I don't understand why people are talking it up so hard. I like the IDEA of a "realistic" non-fantasy medieval RPG like this, but I haven't seen anything that impressive yet. Definitely a "wait and see" for me

You clearly haven't been watching any screenshots

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#23 xantufrog  Moderator
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@commander: yes I have. First of all, those graphics are no unprecedented. They do look good, but what exactly is the evidence that the story or gameplay are amazing? I'm left with a good-but-not-unheard-of visuals impression and a bunch of question marks about the meaty stuff

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#25 dantesergei
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I don't like sword fighting in first person and my backlog is large enough. Might give it a shot sometime in the future...

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#26 Todddow
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I haven't seen ANY hype on this game. In fact, I've introduced all of my gamer friends to it months ago, NONE had even heard of it.

The realism IS what could potentially make this game so special. From the combat, to the clothes, to the upkeep of armor/weapons, to enemy camp infiltration, etc.

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#27 Mazoch
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I'm interested in the game but I'm going to maintain a healthy skepticism. I hope they can pull off most of what they talk about, the concept sounds interesting.

But when a new, untried developer claims that it wants to re-invent the genre, spurn all the conventions while delivering top end visuals I become a bit skeptical.

I'm going to expect the worst until I start seeing reviews and first hands impressions that tells me otherwise.

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I think it is because the game come from a semi-unproven studio and to be fair as well I haven't seen a ton of info on the game. With that said like Cyberpunk 2077 I've waiting for the game to come or at least get some details. I think it will score well and have decent sales. Kinda like cuphead. Nothing spectacular but very solid numbers.

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#29  Edited By Mecha_Frieza
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@texasgoldrush said:

This game looks damn revolutionary, being the first real medieval non fantasy RPG ever (Mount and Blade does not count), based on historical fact, from the story to its world, to its combat.

This game can make the entire industry look at RPGs differently, because simply put, you cannot play this game like a normal RPG. In KCD, you will never become a super warrior, you will never find phat loot that powers you through the game, your fighting skill matters just as much as you loadout (and sometimes avoiding fights is better), and you have to plan for everything or you will die. You will not be able to slash through plate armor with a sword unlike most RPGs. Bows are some of the deadliest weapons in the game. As well, armor can not only slow you down, but helmets obscure your vision. Food rots, weapon and armor breaks, and there is actually a skill to read. There are no reliance on map markers or special senses either, this game does not hold your hand and expects you to figure things out yourself.

The immersive sim aspects look to be ambitious as well. People become suspicious after you steal from them, so much so that it is a bad idea to sell an item you just stole In the area. People react to what you are wearing and if you are dirty and bloody. You can disguise yourself as well. Quests have multiple solutions and outcomes, more so than say, the Witcher 3. And people will not wait for you, if you go off and explore and do other quests, they can leave without you and even complete the quest themselves. Fast travel can also be interrupted by ambushes and events.

Yet, the game sites aren't hyping it much weeks before release. its a kind of game that seems to me that critics will nitpick and underscore, but gamers will consider later (if they do not have some blunder we don't know about), a cult classic that will impact the RPG genre going forward.

We will have to see what happens at launch, but there are many reasons why.

First of all, it is being developed by a no-name developer and this is literally their first game they have ever created. The story, from what we have seen, looks overly generic and the combat looks rather wonky. I have a feeling that this is going to be a pretty average game.

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Xbox One X, it surely is the most powerful console. In general, it allows us to use 1440p resolution, top quality Global Illumination, more and better shadows, better lighting and LOD distances

PlayStation 4 Pro runs at 1080p resolution and slightly worse Global Illumination/particle effects simulation. Then again – we are pushing all platforms to their limits. Both the base PlayStation 4 and Xbox One will run at 900p

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@knight-k said:
@NoodleFighter said:

Oh crap I almost forgot about it, I hope it does well I got too many games at the moment to focus on it yet. I love how one of the founders for the game wrecked a SJW journalist from Polygon.

Lol, there's a thread on ERA about this.

Mass triggering and a lot of Reseters going to boycot the game it seems.

I'm not even White and I really hate all these people that try to force "diversity" into things with their false narratives.

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#32 R4gn4r0k
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Where screenshots of the game look amazing, I find the gameplay to be very boring and not really that fleshed out.

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#33  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Where screenshots of the game look amazing, I find the gameplay to be very boring and not really that fleshed out.

How is the gameplay not fleshed out? Its crazy fleshed out. More so than the likes of Skyrim or even The Witcher 3.

@Mazoch said:

I'm interested in the game but I'm going to maintain a healthy skepticism. I hope they can pull off most of what they talk about, the concept sounds interesting.

But when a new, untried developer claims that it wants to re-invent the genre, spurn all the conventions while delivering top end visuals I become a bit skeptical.

I'm going to expect the worst until I start seeing reviews and first hands impressions that tells me otherwise.

But here is the thing. Reviews aren't everything. Many RPGs that didn't score well became cult classics and many times, the gaming press do overrate and underrate games.

This game has the makings of a cult classic this year along with Vampyr.

And really, on certain things, I would tell the reviewers "look at Skyrim", an average at almost everything game overrated and overhyped to a pedestal it doesn't deserve.

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#35 nethernova
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@texasgoldrush said:

This game looks damn revolutionary, being the first real medieval non fantasy RPG ever (Mount and Blade does not count)

Of course it counts. And nobody "underestimates" this game. It has been getting high praise on this board since the first screenshots were shown. How could you put so much fail into one thread? Oh, wait... texasgoldrush. The king of fail threads. Please go on.

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#36 DocSanchez
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This has been on my radar for years now. I'm interested in open world RPGs and history and this is a hell of an interesting take. I sincerely hope the studio lives up to its promise, it is looking good. I will say these games do require a very good map and I hope this one is. The feeling of going out and discovering something important or intriguing on your own is a big part of the experience.

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#37  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@nethernova said:
@texasgoldrush said:

This game looks damn revolutionary, being the first real medieval non fantasy RPG ever (Mount and Blade does not count)

Of course it counts. And nobody "underestimates" this game. It has been getting high praise on this board since the first screenshots were shown. How could you put so much fail into one thread? Oh, wait... texasgoldrush. The king of fail threads. Please go on.

No it does not count. Mount and Blade is not set in the real world, but a fantasy one with no magic elements. its also more of a strategy game and an army leader simulator instead of a true RPG.

High praise on this board =/= hype from the game community at large. Major sites barely cover it.

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#38 R4gn4r0k
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@texasgoldrush said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Where screenshots of the game look amazing, I find the gameplay to be very boring and not really that fleshed out.

How is the gameplay not fleshed out? Its crazy fleshed out. More so than the likes of Skyrim or even The Witcher 3.

Polish and fun seems to be lacking from the gameplay videos I've seen.

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#39  Edited By texasgoldrush
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@texasgoldrush said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Where screenshots of the game look amazing, I find the gameplay to be very boring and not really that fleshed out.

How is the gameplay not fleshed out? Its crazy fleshed out. More so than the likes of Skyrim or even The Witcher 3.

Polish and fun seems to be lacking from the gameplay videos I've seen.

And Skyrim was polished? and fun?

Nevermind KCD is actually being a true RPG.

Second, the gameplay videos are from unpolished betas.

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#40  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@texasgoldrush said:

And Skyrim was polished? and fun?

Nevermind KCD is actually being a true RPG.

Second, the gameplay videos are from unpolished betas.

The gameplay videos I've seen were from a month ago.

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@R4gn4r0k: Well here is a new gameplay video that just came out. Game looks fine to me.

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#42 pelvist
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Why is it taking so long to come out, and why arent people saying its never coming out like they do with SC? Oh, must be because its multi-plat.

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#43 Howmakewood
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@pelvist said:

Why is it taking so long to come out, and why arent people saying its never coming out like they do with SC? Oh, must be because its multi-plat.

but this is actually coming out

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@knight-k said:
@NoodleFighter said:

Oh crap I almost forgot about it, I hope it does well I got too many games at the moment to focus on it yet. I love how one of the founders for the game wrecked a SJW journalist from Polygon.

Lol, there's a thread on ERA about this.

Mass triggering and a lot of Reseters going to boycot the game it seems.

Good thing most developers doesnt care what REEEEEEEsetera thinks

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#45 R4gn4r0k
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@NoodleFighter: I'll have a look :)

I'm sold on the game's premise, it's just the gameplay that always felt 'off' to me...

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#46  Edited By pelvist
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@howmakewood said:
@pelvist said:

Why is it taking so long to come out, and why arent people saying its never coming out like they do with SC? Oh, must be because its multi-plat.

but this is actually coming out

But its been so many years tho...

If the game was PC exclusive it would be getting the same treatment from fanboys as SC does.

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It looks like an RPG game that will have a ridiculous learning curve. It looks pretty cool, but I still have my doubts.

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Loading Video...

New gameplay. looks really good.

RPG of the year 2018.

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#49 R10nu
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@texasgoldrush said:

And Skyrim was polished? and fun?

Might as well be your problem right here.

"It's better than shit!"

"K, i'll play something good instead."

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Gonna get it day 1