Why doesn't Xbox have a State of Play/Direct?

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#1 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Do you think they should, SW? Maybe they are saving it all for E3? Or maybe there isn't much to show at the moment. But I'm kinda digging these update videos even though many of them aren't really that exciting. At least it gives us an idea of what's going on with upcoming games. Don't you agree?

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#2 madrocketeer  Online
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Isn't Inside Xbox supposed to be the same thing, just less frequent?

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Do you think they should, SW? Maybe they are saving it all for E3? Or maybe there isn't much to show at the moment. But I'm kinda digging these update videos even though many of them aren't really that exciting. At least it gives us an idea of what's going on with upcoming games. Don't you agree?

Major Nelson does a weekly show where they show stuff. Sometimes it is new/upcoming games, sometimes it is about hardware updates, etc

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIJ8R8ggkNjYXqFzrDBWHfw

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#4 sakaiXx
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Xbox have their own showcase right? I am sure we talked about them few month ago.

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#5 Gym_Lion
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Not having much to show at the moment didn't stop Sony or Nintendo.

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@regnaston said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Do you think they should, SW? Maybe they are saving it all for E3? Or maybe there isn't much to show at the moment. But I'm kinda digging these update videos even though many of them aren't really that exciting. At least it gives us an idea of what's going on with upcoming games. Don't you agree?

Major Nelson does a weekly show where they show stuff. Sometimes it is new/upcoming games, sometimes it is about hardware updates, etc

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIJ8R8ggkNjYXqFzrDBWHfw

Damn, that guy's still around at Xbox? lol

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Xbox have their own showcase right? I am sure we talked about them few month ago.

I will say, Xbox has done a great job with announcements at E3 and Game Awards in the past. But I'm not really remembering a Direct style show. Maybe they need to do them more!

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@regnaston said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

Do you think they should, SW? Maybe they are saving it all for E3? Or maybe there isn't much to show at the moment. But I'm kinda digging these update videos even though many of them aren't really that exciting. At least it gives us an idea of what's going on with upcoming games. Don't you agree?

Major Nelson does a weekly show where they show stuff. Sometimes it is new/upcoming games, sometimes it is about hardware updates, etc

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIJ8R8ggkNjYXqFzrDBWHfw

Damn, that guy's still around at Xbox? lol

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Xbox have their own showcase right? I am sure we talked about them few month ago.

I will say, Xbox has done a great job with announcements at E3 and Game Awards in the past. But I'm not really remembering a Direct style show. Maybe they need to do them more!

Yeah he is still kicking 😁😁

As for doing more shows like Direct.. I am torn on that. If all we see is rehashed crap we have already seen then I would pass (lets be honest the Sony and Nintendo shows were a waste of time). If they can do quarterly shows that will reveal games and/or show new footage of games already announced then that would be ok, but I would not want to have to sit through what Sony and Nintendo just offered.

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#8 Pedro  Online
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They have a weekly update on Xbox, so why do they need another show for...updates about Xbox?😐

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#9 sakaiXx
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@Pedro said:

They have a weekly update on Xbox, so why do they need another show for...updates about Xbox?😐

XBOX DON'T HAVE GAMES

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#10 Pedro  Online
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@sakaixx said:

XBOX DON'T HAVE GAMES

This thread is not about the current state of the PS5. 😎

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#11 freedomfreak
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Because they always amount to a whole load of nothing.

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Because they always amount to a whole load of nothing.

Pretty much. Microsoft shit the bed, again.

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@sheevpalpamemes: And yet as with last night Sony has jack shit as well

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#14 Bluestars
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one rumoured for mid march

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Sony just made a State of Play announcing games they had already announced last year, I rather wait until they have something new to show.

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#16 mojito1988
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Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

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#17 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

And Sony just says, save your money, here's FF7 Remake 🙂😇

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@mojito1988 said:

Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

And Sony just says, save your money, here's FF7 Remake 🙂😇

And Sony just says "Here now you can spend the next few years in crappy dirty Midgar while we work on the next 6 parts of Final Fantasy 7 so we can milk money out of you one this game for the next 15 years!

How people like the Final Fantasy 7 remake is simply beyond me.

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@mojito1988 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@mojito1988 said:

Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

And Sony just says, save your money, here's FF7 Remake 🙂😇

And Sony just says "Here now you can spend the next few years in crappy dirty Midgar while we work on the next 6 parts of Final Fantasy 7 so we can milk money out of you one this game for the next 15 years!

How people like the Final Fantasy 7 remake is simply beyond me.

Have you played it? It's amazing!

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@mojito1988 said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@mojito1988 said:

Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

And Sony just says, save your money, here's FF7 Remake 🙂😇

And Sony just says "Here now you can spend the next few years in crappy dirty Midgar while we work on the next 6 parts of Final Fantasy 7 so we can milk money out of you one this game for the next 15 years!

How people like the Final Fantasy 7 remake is simply beyond me.

Have you played it? It's amazing!

Of course I played it. If I wanted Final Fantasy to turn in to a crap episodic button masher, I would have just played DMC. I'm old school. For me FF4,6,9, old 7,1,3 and 5 all beat the crap out of this new age crap.

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#21 enzyme36
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The Zenimax purchase will be finalized in March... then they will follow up with a Bethesda showcase sometime mid march.

Considering the best game we saw out of the Direct/ State of Play was a Bethesda game... the show has real potential. Lets see some Starfield!!

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@Duckyindiana said:

@sheevpalpamemes: And yet as with last night Sony has jack shit as well

sony wrecked it last night. All those exclusives.

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@mojito1988 said:

Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

And Sony just says, save your money, here's FF7 Remake 🙂😇

Odd, you don't see it that way when it comes to GamePass, instead you cry about preferring to own games than rent. You are truly a Sony tool. 😂

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I blame Craig.

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@Pedro said:
@SolidGame_basic said:
@mojito1988 said:

Nope. All the need to say is "Get Game Pass Ultimate"

That is really all you need from Xbox.

And Sony just says, save your money, here's FF7 Remake 🙂😇

Odd, you don't see it that way when it comes to GamePass, instead you cry about preferring to own games than rent. You are truly a Sony tool. 😂

tr1g3rr3d

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They do but usually they talk about new games coming and going from Game Pass and calendar for upcoming Games with Gold titles. I don't even watch it my browser feed usually has someone writing a summary of the streams so I can glance at the highlights, or someone posts about any important news here.

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#27 Pedro  Online
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@SolidGame_basic: I know you hate being called out for your hypocrisy. 😂

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No games

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Because Xbox has no games.

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@SolidGame_basic: Ah so you want Xbox to do one so hopefully it will be worse than Sony's and you can talk about something other than Sony's horrendous one 🤣🤣🤣

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@i_p_daily said:

@SolidGame_basic: Ah so you want Xbox to do one so hopefully it will be worse than Sony's and you can talk about something other than Sony's horrendous one 🤣🤣🤣

Man, I'm on a roll today.

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@SolidGame_basic: You certainly are, on a roll on getting owned that is.

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#33 blamix
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I don't think they have anything to show. Maybe a new Netflix update

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#34 SargentD
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Id rather them wait instead of being like sony and showing a bunch of stuff they been showing for over a year already.

People said the nintendo direct was bad lol that state of play was even more dookey.

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#36 WitIsWisdom
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Well... if it's as bad as SONY's last show I understand why they don't really have one.. lol

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#37 X_CAPCOM_X
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@mojito1988: did you just say devil may cry is a "crap episodic button masher?" Wtf lmao

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#38 ConanTheStoner
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Yeah, saw that yesterday. DMC is on that list of games where it's best to just ignore most of this forums opinions.

Also, any game that has flashy melee combat animations and maybe an air combo is "like DMC". 🤔

Imagine thinking FF7R and DMC have remotely similar gameplay lol.

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Love when people who play the gameplay equivalent of going through dvd menus want to be above an action game that actually lets you get good at stuff.

Nothing says quality than a gameplay setup that’s only appeal would be its tactical decision making, except nothing in the game ever leveraged any of that because the tactics have been simplified to a 4 step process.

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@jg4xchamp said:

Love when people who play the gameplay equivalent of going through dvd menus want to be above an action game that actually lets you get good at stuff.

Nothing says quality than a gameplay setup that’s only appeal would be its tactical decision making, except nothing in the game ever leveraged any of that because the tactics have been simplified to a 4 step process.

so true, its fake tactical

JRPG fans just suck at real time, calling DMC a button masher makes them feel better because their games need to be turnbased so they can spend 15 minutes mid battle for a single attack.

Ill play turn based rpgs but usually while i'm doing other stuff because they are stupid easy and i can literally put it down and walk away and it doesn't matter lol

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Of course I played it. If I wanted Final Fantasy to turn in to a crap episodic button masher, I would have just played DMC. I'm old school. For me FF4,6,9, old 7,1,3 and 5 all beat the crap out of this new age crap.

Umm you did button mash in old school FF games. ATB, made navigating menus result in a damage loss for most of the part.

Usually the best ways to do damage was just spam attack or your best spell over and over.

FF16 actually has potential, since they hired DMC's combat designer.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Do you think they should, SW? Maybe they are saving it all for E3? Or maybe there isn't much to show at the moment. But I'm kinda digging these update videos even though many of them aren't really that exciting. At least it gives us an idea of what's going on with upcoming games. Don't you agree?

They are okay.. State of play was basically Sony just copying Nintendo directs and was cheaper for them than doing Events.

State of play or Nintendo direct could be accomplished just as easily by doing social media posts with gameplay trailers and screenshots attached...

they are kind of pointless

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For the sole purpose of upsetting internet forum posters.

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@Maroxad said:

Usually the best ways to do damage was just spam attack or your best spell over and over.

Don't forget that occasional potion or cure! Tactical™

But yeah I get you. Just the nature of ATB, pretty sure even in wait mode it only applied to sub menus. So you'd end up setting the option to remember your last input. Which is "fine" since the games rarely make you consider your choices and chances are, your big damage spam is the optimal route. Ends up being the equivalent of action game button mashing, just brute forcing braindead play.

I get the occasional urge to replay the classic FFs. Some of the strongest nostalgia I have for any games... but yeah, then there's the playing it part. Nothing against turn based (or even ATB) gameplay, just those games in particular are super shallow about it.

Way back when, things like the music, the graphics, the story, the sense of progression, etc. were enough to pull me through. Now, just nah. Get the urge to replay FF4? Go to Youtube and listen to the OST instead lol. Nostalgia quelled. Uematsu da GOAT.

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#45 mojito1988
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@Maroxad said:
@mojito1988 said:

Of course I played it. If I wanted Final Fantasy to turn in to a crap episodic button masher, I would have just played DMC. I'm old school. For me FF4,6,9, old 7,1,3 and 5 all beat the crap out of this new age crap.

Umm you did button mash in old school FF games. ATB, made navigating menus result in a damage loss for most of the part.

Usually the best ways to do damage was just spam attack or your best spell over and over.

FF16 actually has potential, since they hired DMC's combat designer.

Acting like you don't get my point is just silly. Final Fantasy changed. Some think it was for the better, some think it was for the worse. It is what it is.

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Because people are tired of seeing and hearing about Halo/Forza/Gears.

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#48 Pedro  Online
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@hardwenzen said:

Because people are tired of seeing and hearing about Halo/Forza/Gears.

Says the person who has been playing the same game since the PS3. 😂🤣

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@Pedro said:
@hardwenzen said:

Because people are tired of seeing and hearing about Halo/Forza/Gears.

Says the person who has been playing the same game since the PS3. 😂🤣

At least his favorite game hasn't declined in quality.

Halo is on a 6 year hiatus because of 343's incompetence.

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#50 Pedro  Online
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@NathanDrakeSwag: So, you are confirming that he was wrong. Thanks.