Why doesn't Sony publish their own RPGs anymore?

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#1 Edited by SolidGame_basic (21852 posts) -

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

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#2 Posted by Senor_Kami (8529 posts) -

Sony thinks globally and the type of RPGs that sell well on a global level require a massive investment. Additionally, it really is just Bethesda that can do it with success unless you count Mass Effect where they get rid of RPG gameplay, don't make it open world, and it's essentially a shooter with dialog choices. Sony could probably get away with some Uncharted w/Dialog Choices but I don't think that's the type of thing you're looking for.

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#3 Posted by Cloud_imperium (14291 posts) -

Audience .

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#4 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

Cutbacks from a dying company.

Fun fact: the PS4 is the cheapest console to produce out of all the playstations. EVER.

Tune in for more signs of a corporate giant about to go belly up.

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#5 Posted by speedfreak48t5p (12352 posts) -

Who cares? A system doesn't need RPG's to be awesome.

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#6 Posted by Shewgenja (18485 posts) -

RPGs take a lot of resources to make and the genre has been shrinking thanks to your tried and true franchises like Final Fantasy absolutely tanking in quality and sales. Also, the big RPGs have moved to handheld like DragonQuest. Essentially the third party has shrunk the fanbase on consoles where it was once dominant. Sony takes risks (LittleBigPlanet, just to shut the idiots in this thread down like the sad jokes they are), but they are calculated risks. A large-scale RPG would be more than a calculated risk. I would be SHOCKED if Sony published an internal RPG ever again.

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#7 Posted by bbkkristian (14971 posts) -

@speedfreak48t5p: I beg to differ.

Likely because Sony has the same mindset as Square Enix that there is no audience to obtain a profit (which is wrong on many accounts). JRPGs are doing better today than they have in the past five years.

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#8 Edited by KratosYOLOSwag (1827 posts) -

There are 2 RPGs in works at Sony right now.

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#9 Posted by Nonstop-Madness (9825 posts) -
@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cutbacks from a dying company.

Fun fact: the PS4 is the cheapest console to produce out of all the playstations. EVER.

Tune in for more signs of a corporate giant about to go belly up.

So please explain to all of us how Sony published more RPG's during the PS1 era than the PS2 era because as far as I know Sony was at it's peak when the PS2 was released (circa 2000).

Yeah, I didn't think so because this has nothing to do with Sony and everything to do with how the Japanese gaming industry has consistently been dropping the ball generation after generation. Sony can't publish RPG's because 1, they don't have developers that really develop RPG's and 2, there's barely anyone out there willing to develop an RPG.

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#10 Posted by Gamerno66666 (175 posts) -

They don't need to. The whole JRPG genre seems to be exclusive to sony.

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#11 Posted by DrRockso87 (2625 posts) -

They seem to be relying on third-party Japanese support right now to deliver exclusive titles (e.g. Tales of, Ni No Kuni, Disgaea, Drakengard, etc.) while third-party multiplat RPGs do a good enough job as well but yeah. Sony really need to up their game.

I think we'll see an increase from Sony Japan Studio this generation. There are rumors that the developers of Soul Sacrifice on the Vita have a new game in development for PS4. We'll see.

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#12 Edited by TigerSuperman (4331 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Grandia has nothing do with Sony actually.. The rest other than Darkcloud are owned by Sony.

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#13 Edited by SolidGame_basic (21852 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Grandia has nothing do with Sony actually.. The rest other than Darkcloud are owned by Sony.

Sony did publish Grandia in North America

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#14 Posted by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

Time will tell I assume.

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#15 Posted by lamprey263 (33931 posts) -

probably because they're aiming at titles with potential for greater commercial success, JRPGs are kind of niche, they can be good but that won't guarantee great returns on their investment

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#16 Posted by Netret0120 (3406 posts) -

JRPG'S are dominated on sony consoles anyways and 3DS is the only device Sony have to compete with on that front.

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#17 Edited by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -

@TigerSuperman said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Grandia has nothing do with Sony actually.. The rest other than Darkcloud are owned by Sony.

Sony owns the Dark Cloud franchise not Level 5.

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#20 Posted by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Time will prove you wrong. Hence my comment.

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#21 Posted by lundy86_4 (48268 posts) -

They aren't as big as they used to be... Most JRPG fans have likely migrated to the handhelds... *cough*... The 3DS :P

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#22 Posted by cainetao11 (31396 posts) -

Cut backs in money. See SNE financials

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#24 Edited by misterpmedia (6209 posts) -

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Time will prove you wrong. Hence my comment.

Sony has been closing studios and losing IP's and their credit is listed as junk not to mention they are selling off most of their divisions. This is a crumbling company that has been happing for a few years now. It's entirely possible Sony could go bankrupt and not even make it through this entire gen even with the PS4 selling good. This is reality of the situation sorry if this hurts you but look up the facts.

Time will tell, as I said.

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#25 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@Nonstop-Madness: cutbacks.

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#26 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Cutbacks from a dying company.

Fun fact: the PS4 is the cheapest console to produce out of all the playstations. EVER.

Tune in for more signs of a corporate giant about to go belly up.

that's not something I would be proud of as a lemming since the xbox dOne has inferior parts in it and yet still costs 500 dollars, even If that 100 difference is because of kinect the xbox dOne Would still be 400 dollars for a product with inferior internals.

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#27 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

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#28 Posted by MonsieurX (36285 posts) -
@FoxbatAlpha said:

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

I guess you live in a special world

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#29 Posted by danten81 (328 posts) -

Those are all JRPGs, and Legend of Dragoon was in reaction to FFVII. Squaresoft nailed that game, and the commercials at the time showed outstanding CG videos to entice the more casual audience.

Things have changed so much. The 360/PS3 generation grew up with more Western games/genres.

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#30 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

The creator of Grandia also died back in 2011 :(

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#31 Posted by cfisher2833 (2150 posts) -

@SolidGame_basic said:

Remember games like Grandia, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Legend of Legaia, Dark Cloud, etc. I haven't remembered a good Sony RPG in a long time. What happened, SW? You guys seem to know everything so I ask.

Did Sony actually publish those games though? Regardless, the reason those games aren't being published is because they would cost too much money to produce with modern visuals, and the market isn't there to support it. You'd probably see quite a few more JRPGs if Japanese devs took their heads out of their asses and stopped limiting themselves with the traditional console retail release model.

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#32 Posted by Nengo_Flow (10644 posts) -

Becuz Sony knows I dont care for RPGs, much less JRPGs

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#33 Posted by hippiesanta (10299 posts) -

because Sony is knows that Third Person game like uncharted will sell more and more likely to get awards....

where can u find FPS/RPG with awards these days ..... well ... only a small portion

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#34 Edited by KBFloYd (17760 posts) -

when japan turns it back on you...you turn your back on japan

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#35 Posted by stationplay_4 (444 posts) -

@FoxbatAlpha said:

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

LOL

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#36 Posted by Heil68 (57266 posts) -

@gamerno66666 said:

They don't need to. The whole JRPG genre seems to be exclusive to sony.

Live, Learn and Love, the SONY way,

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#37 Posted by Shewgenja (18485 posts) -

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Holy shit! How do you come up with such an original burn? Like, dude! Fresh out the box! Never heard it before. Someone get this man a cookie, this thread has been officially shut down!

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#38 Posted by Gaming-Planet (18241 posts) -

Because Sony knows the west wants the cowadoodies and doges.

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#39 Posted by j_assassin (1007 posts) -

They seem to follow whats popular in the US and at the moment its still shooters, hopefully the rpgs comes back this gen, although it doesnt seem like it, US gamers loves shooting stuff

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#40 Posted by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@MonsieurX: exactly my point. My special world is the world of truth.

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#41 Posted by Suppaman100 (5250 posts) -

How many exclusive RPG's did 360 had last gen? LOL

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#42 Posted by Floppy_Jim (25834 posts) -

Demon's Souls 2!

Hopefully...

There was Soul Sacrifce a little while ago but that lacks common ground with the games you mentioned.

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#43 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@rocky_denace said:

@misterpmedia said:

Time will tell I assume.

Maybe because Sony is Broke

Dude I have seen some F'd up Avatars and Names on here but yours in simply brilliant. Bravo!

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#44 Edited by LJS9502_basic (159934 posts) -

They really don't need to publish their own.....they have RPGs enough.

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#46 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

aren't they making a new Wild Arms for the Vita or something?

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#47 Posted by ominous_titan (1204 posts) -

Sony is broke and sold the farm to make one last console. I'll be surprised if the company makes it to the true ending of the cycle without selling the play station brand.

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#48 Edited by FoxbatAlpha (10669 posts) -

@chronoschris said:
@FoxbatAlpha said:

@WilliamRLBaker: in my world the Xbox One doesn't consist of inferior parts.

Yes, your own little delusional world where Xbone is beating PS4.

Did you come up with that great material all on your own? I see an new SW King in the making.

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#49 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@ominous_titan said:

Sony is broke and sold the farm to make one last console. I'll be surprised if the company makes it to the true ending of the cycle without selling the play station brand.

You mean like 360?