Why consoles will NEVER get a real racing sim like the PC does.

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#1 percuvius2
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Play FM4, play GT5 in a full matchmaking room. Can you even get 10ft down the track without a big pile-up?

I swear the consolists have to be THE WORST drivers ever seen and what really stinks is that the devs like T10 Studios and polyphony digital will never correct it because then 3/4 of their userbase will go right back to need for speed.

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#2 BPoole96
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I had that happen sometimes on GT5 but not enough where it killed the experience. I found most of the players on there to be older than players I would hear in other games

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#3 turtlethetaffer
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Why I realy don't care:

The only type of racing games I enjoy are Kart ones.

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#4 percuvius2
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Why I realy don't care:

The only type of racing games I enjoy are Kart ones.

turtlethetaffer

Too many of your crowd in FM4 and gt5

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#5 turtlethetaffer
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Why I realy don't care:

The only type of racing games I enjoy are Kart ones.

percuvius2

Too many of your crowd in FM4 and gt5


I don't even play those games. hell I hardly play racing games at all aside from the occasional game of Mario Kart.

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#6 Heil68
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It's certainly frustrating when people dont grab lead on first couple laps, then race the rest of race disruptively.
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#7 PopeReal
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F-Zero X (N64) and F-Zero GX (GameCube) are more fun than any PC racing sim anyway.;)

But by all means play what you enjoy... I am not sure why you would care if consoles get a "real" racing sim or not.

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#8 percuvius2
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F-Zero X (N64) and F-Zero GX (GameCube) are more fun than any PC racing sim anyway.;)

But by all means play what you enjoy... I am not sure why you would care if consoles get a "real" racing sim or not.

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It could be because I own both consoles as well as my PC...

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#9 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Consoles are getting Project Cars. your thread is invalid

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#11 WarOf1993
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I wonder why I hardly have that problem when I play Forza, PGR, or Grid? I guess y 360 works different than yours.
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#12 kingtito
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I wonder why I hardly have that problem when I play Forza, PGR, or Grid? I guess y 360 works different than yours.WarOf1993
Have you ever played a real SIM? Console SIMS are extremely watered down games. Try playing any of the IRacing classes or the old Papyrus Nascar games.
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#13 Sushiglutton
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Realism sucks. Mario Kart is my favourite racer because it allows me to throw bananas at my friends and laugh. I'm not joking this is how I feel about racers.
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#14 WarOf1993
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[QUOTE="WarOf1993"]I wonder why I hardly have that problem when I play Forza, PGR, or Grid? I guess y 360 works different than yours.kingtito
Have you ever played a real SIM? Console SIMS are extremely watered down games. Try playing any of the IRacing classes or the old Papyrus Nascar games.

Oh, You mean those PC sims no one ever talks about unless it is to discredit Forza, GT, Shift, and Grid.. I have never had any fun what-so-ever playing PC sim racing. And without fun then there isn't much point. I hardly even tinker with the settings in Forza.
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Or just play arcade style racers. Because you know, they're actually fun.
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#16 kingtito
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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="WarOf1993"]I wonder why I hardly have that problem when I play Forza, PGR, or Grid? I guess y 360 works different than yours.WarOf1993
Have you ever played a real SIM? Console SIMS are extremely watered down games. Try playing any of the IRacing classes or the old Papyrus Nascar games.

Oh, You mean those PC sims no one ever talks about unless it is to discredit Forza, GT, Shift, and Grid.. I have never had any fun what-so-ever playing PC sim racing. And without fun then there isn't much point. I hardly even tinker with the settings in Forza.

Not sure what THAT has to do with consoles not getting real SIMs but whatever. I'm just pointing out that Forza and GT5 aren't anything close to the PC SIMS like IRacing or Nascar series.
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#17 OreoMilkshake
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Your racers are more boring than mine, I'm so jealous.
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#18 Heil68
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Your racers are more boring than mine, I'm so jealous.OreoMilkshake
Why cant you enjoy both? With consoles you have no option.
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#19 WarOf1993
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Your racers are more boring than mine, I'm so jealous.Heil68
Why cant you enjoy both? With consoles you have no option.

There are options on console. If developers and such call GT a sim than I will trust them over a moron on a game forum who is just looking for a way to bash consoles.
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Or just play arcade style racers. Because you know, they're actually fun.

This. I once tried playing GTR2 on PC. Coma. Inducing.
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#21 PinnacleGamingP
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because forza came along and tried to sell arcade racer off as a sim
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#22 kingtito
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because forza came along and tried to sell arcade racer off as a simPinnacleGamingP
Actually that is GT since neither game is a real SIM and GT came out 1st.
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]because forza came along and tried to sell arcade racer off as a simkingtito
Actually that is GT since neither game is a real SIM and GT came out 1st.

GT is actually immersive, one of the key factors of a sim. Forza arcade is the furthest thing from immersion
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Why I realy don't care:

The only type of racing games I enjoy are Kart ones.

turtlethetaffer
the kart racing in gt5 is actually really good. just wish there was more of it
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[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Your racers are more boring than mine, I'm so jealous.Heil68
Why cant you enjoy both? With consoles you have no option.

Believe me, I've played racing sims but they're only slightly more enjoyable than driving in real life.
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#26 rumbalumba
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pwaahahaha re you stupid? look at the past 20 years we went from 8-bit to stereoscopic 3D 1080p. in 20 years consoles will be powerful enough to do realistic racing sims no doubt. NEVER? man, people can just be so ignorant at times.

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[QUOTE="kingtito"][QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]because forza came along and tried to sell arcade racer off as a simPinnacleGamingP
Actually that is GT since neither game is a real SIM and GT came out 1st.

GT is actually immersive, one of the key factors of a sim. Forza arcade is the furthest thing from immersion

You really have no clue what makes a game a sim. RPGs can be immersive, that doesn't make them "simulations". Sims are about realistic recreation of the life activity they're emulating, with special attention to detail.

And while I can't comment on iRacing, Forza totally trumps GT in that regard.

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#28 MSXBOX4EVER
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learn a lesson from someone who knows.

grand prix legends. heralded as one of the most realistic racing simulations of its time.

my father, was the 1990 formula ford champion for auckland in a field of some ~20 drivers who qualified for the championship.

we would set up lans sometimes and race (with others too) every race, if you were winning, you had to watch for my father punting you off. he just didn't care. eventually, others realised too that sabotaging others is a legitamate strategy to win the race in a computer simulation.

it is not about bad driving. it is about the fact that you are in a racing simulation with no consequences.

it is like the difference between playing poker with no money, and playing poker with a $20 buy in.

personally, i would like to see multiplayer racing games do away with collission because of exactly that. in colin mcrae rally one, the multiplayer cars would superimpose over one another without colliding. so all racers are essentially performing a time trial against live 'ghosts'. less fun? maybe. More fair? definitely.

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because sims are kind of boring and too time consuming? And that's comin from a guy who played lots of gtr2 games like dirt3 are perfect blend
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#30 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="kingtito"] Actually that is GT since neither game is a real SIM and GT came out 1st. AdobeArtist

GT is actually immersive, one of the key factors of a sim. Forza arcade is the furthest thing from immersion

You really have no clue what makes a game a sim. RPGs can be immersive, that doesn't make them "simulations". Sims are about realistic recreation of the life activity they're emulating, with special attention to detail.

And while I can't comment on iRacing, Forza totally trumps GT in that regard.

i didnt say immersion makes a sim, i said a sim makes immersion. and btw your locking all the good threads, maybe you should take a break too every once in a while suspend yourself and let other mods do their jobs and see things work out on there own. nice to be active though ;)
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Pile ups are fun though.
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] GT is actually immersive, one of the key factors of a sim. Forza arcade is the furthest thing from immersionPinnacleGamingP

You really have no clue what makes a game a sim. RPGs can be immersive, that doesn't make them "simulations". Sims are about realistic recreation of the life activity they're emulating, with special attention to detail.

And while I can't comment on iRacing, Forza totally trumps GT in that regard.

i didnt say immersion makes a sim, i said a sim makes immersion. and btw your locking all the good threads, maybe you should take a break too every once in a while suspend yourself and let other mods do their jobs and see things work out on there own. nice to be active though ;)

If they actually were "good" threads (or in some cases made by users of level 10) they wouldn't be locked ;)
Still its nice that my participation is appreciated :cool:

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because sims are kind of boring and too time consuming? And that's comin from a guy who played lots of gtr2 games like dirt3 are perfect blendJigglyWiggly_
omg i love dirt3. transporter mode is so fun
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pile up?! be smart and hang back at first and swing by
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#35 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]Your racers are more boring than mine, I'm so jealous.OreoMilkshake
Why cant you enjoy both? With consoles you have no option.

Believe me, I've played racing sims but they're only slightly more enjoyable than driving in real life.

To yourself, but what about someone who wants to play a sim like that? Pc is the only place to go, atm at least.
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#36 GarGx1
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Somtimes Sims can go too far from gaming. Which is why they aren't popular on consoles. Personally, I'd rather play Forza with my mates, than spend a few hours driving around a track where every little mistake can cost you dearly.

Simulators have never been my choice of game though and that includes people, racing, flying, train driving or farming....but road sweeping, now that's a different matter :P

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#37 kingtito
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

GT is actually immersive, one of the key factors of a sim. Forza arcade is the furthest thing from immersionPinnacleGamingP

You really have no clue what makes a game a sim. RPGs can be immersive, that doesn't make them "simulations". Sims are about realistic recreation of the life activity they're emulating, with special attention to detail.

And while I can't comment on iRacing, Forza totally trumps GT in that regard.

i didnt say immersion makes a sim, i said a sim makes immersion. and btw your locking all the good threads, maybe you should take a break too every once in a while suspend yourself and let other mods do their jobs and see things work out on there own. nice to be active though ;)

GT still isn't a SIM and from I've seen it's not better than Forza. Believe it or not some people actually realistic racing SIMS. There is a lot of satisfaction that goes into placing well or winning a league race and that's fun to some.
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#38 nameless12345
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ITT: raging hermit thinks if it doesn't require a wheel and tons of hours put into it (both, driving as well as fine tuning) it cannot be a good racing game...

GT and Forza are a great blend of arcade and sim, something most PC racers lack.

You didn't have a good sim/arcade racer since NFS5 (the TD:U games are just decent), hence you're jelly why the consoles do have them...

(or you're not but you're dumb anyway. To each his own, be it arcade or sim or a blend of the two)

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ITT: raging hermit thinks if it doesn't require a wheel and tons of hours put into it (both, driving as well as fine tuning) it cannot be a good racing game...

GT and Forza are a great blend of arcade and sim, something most PC racers lack.

You didn't have a good sim/arcade racer since NFS5 (the TD:U games are just decent), hence you're jelly why the consoles do have them...

(or you're not but you're dumb anyway. To each his own, be it arcade or sim or a blend of the two)

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We're so raging and jelly that we click this thread and making excuses for not having real racing sims...

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