why are people not more pissed about ps4 having a subscription to play online no

I am pretty pissed at it. And that's why I won't buy any next gen console at launch. I will buy Playstation 4 slim though. So I guess Xbox 360/Playstation 3/PC for me for the upcoming two or three years.

I'm not happy about it but I did a year of PS+ before and got much more value from it than $50. If Sony can continue to provide that kind of value than I won't be as bothered with it

Worth noting all F2P games are F2P on PS4 because you don't need PS Plus. F2P games require Gold on XBL. That needs to change.LordOfPoms

I assume you have a credible link to back this up?.

Simple, when Microsoft was trying to shove DRM down everyone's throats Sony was able to come out and say "hey, we won't block used games!" and then was able to sneak in the multiplayer fee when no one was really paying attention. 

Vari3ty

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"]Worth noting all F2P games are F2P on PS4 because you don't need PS Plus. F2P games require Gold on XBL. That needs to change.Snugenz

I assume you have a credible link to back this up?.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="LordOfPoms"]Worth noting all F2P games are F2P on PS4 because you don't need PS Plus. F2P games require Gold on XBL. That needs to change.Murderstyle75

I assume you have a credible link to back this up?.

On Xbox One, no no i havn't, have you?.

And is that even a F2P game, just googled it and the XBLA site had a "Buy Now" button?.

lol lems should be the last ones criticising sony for charging online.

You suckers have been paying since the last gen,and xbox live doesn't even give free games:lol:

Plus,F2P games do not require a subscription.You can play planetside 2 multiplayer for hundreds of hours on ps4 without paying a penny;)

lol lems should be the last ones criticising sony for charging online.

You suckers have been paying since the last gen,and xbox live doesn't even give free games:lol:

 

Plus,F2P games do not require a subscription.You can play planetside 2 multiplayer for hundreds of hours on ps4 without paying a penny;)

call_of_duty_10

Learn to read, noone is criticising Sony for charging, they're calling out the hypocritical cows for being well... massive hypocrites.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

I assume you have a credible link to back this up?.

Snugenz

On Xbox One, no no i havn't, have you?.

And is that even a F2P game, just googled it and the XBLA site had a "Buy Now" button?.

I hope steam doesn't start charging...

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Have you tried to play Happy Wars from a Silver account? Cannot be done.Murderstyle75

On Xbox One, no no i havn't, have you?.

And is that even a F2P game, just googled it and the XBLA site had a "Buy Now" button?.

Sounds like alot of assumptions and wishful thinking on your end, why you would want that is beyond me, i guess your fanboyism knows no bounds.

yeah i dont want to pay to play online

akdiuuuryttt

Fanboys, that is all.

I hope steam doesn't start charging...

JangoWuzHere

i don't like it either to be honest.

I hope steam doesn't start charging...

JangoWuzHere

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]Totally agree. Also, the hypocrisy in Sony fans is astounding. Nevertheless, the 'free' games is great value. AHUGECAT

It's surreal. I can bring up HUNDREDS of threads, websites, etc. etc. that were saying Microsoft is evil for charging for Xbox Live.

This came up first couple pages on Google: http://www.techhive.com/article/153729/xbox_live_free.html

http://www.giantbomb.com/xbox-one/3045-145/forums/can-microsoft-get-away-with-charging-for-online-pl-560491/

http://www.change.org/petitions/microsoft-stop-charging-for-the-service-of-xbox-live

http://n4g.com/news/230414/why-microsoft-should-stop-charging-for-xbox-live

Now that Sony is charging, no one cares. And not only that, but Sony announced they were charging in a dirty, sneaky way - right when they were "owning" Microsoft's policies at E3. And then the fine print in their "share games" ad.

They couldn't even announce it straight out. A dirty company.

Yeah, I found the cows acceptance absolutely shocking considering the astronomical deal Sony fans made out of XBL fees.

I particularly like "you have to pay to unlock half your games" and "half your games are held at ransom", say this now, and it's silence.

I'd LOVE to know why it's now OK to pay to unlock half your games?

Also, are half your games still held at ransom?

60$ per year averages out to just 18 cents per day, if you can't afford that you should find another hobby. A hobo on the street can get more money than that.

Bigboi500

because you get other stuff with PS+.

Also it's not that big of a deal anymore.

Because unlike XBL, its totally worth it. We get free games :cool:

Cheleman

I'm sure many like myself are still not happy with being forced to pay extra in order to play online... 

But having been a PSN+ member for 2 yrs should Sony keep improving the service with those 'free' games then its not that bad for gamers..

Having said that I was hoping for Sony to keep online gaming free for all those future PS4 owners who may not be interested in PSN+ service.. 

Finally its SW so we know how ppl change their opinions :P  

Apparently to cows its now ok to pay for online just like for lemmings its not a problem that Xbox One is focusing on being a Multimedia system, offering many non gaming related features + Bluray.. 

Because this is SW, where people complain about things until its "their" company doing it. Then its the best thing since bread that has precut slices.lhughey

Or maybe because Sony isn't charging you to do the basic functions of online.

(you could still Netflix without paying PS+)

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

60$ per year averages out to just 18 cents per day, if you can't afford that you should find another hobby. A hobo on the street can get more money than that.

ShadowofSonic

this is not about if we can afford it or not, it's about weather the value for money is there, if there is a reason to pay for something that used to be free before, you are no different to those who buy Call of Duty every year aswell as every single map for pack for them.

im a sony fanboy and im pissed about it... but its either that or getting a wii U for free online play lol...

From what I've heard it's not "as bad" and the rewards you get overtake the "risks" involved with it.

Still bullshit either way, they're still the same just one evil is (or was, I don't know) greater than the other. Doesn't matter, they're still evil and very, very wrong.

While they've done something shitty- online paywall -it's incorporated into something great (PS+). It's a mixture of Sony's greed and the hilarious lack of competition the Wii U and Xbone provide.

I'll pay but they better speed up downloads and updates and don't make me install something after I download it be more like Xbox onewiththegame

Because cows are the biggest hypocrites in the gaming world.

Rage010101

I think it's the fact that Sony came out and said listen we ain't struggling but we can't afford to give you the best experience online without a subscription, so from next gen you will have to have ps+ but all the benefits of ps+ are staying, alos any free to play games, and the shop will be free. 

Which unlike Microsoft who charge you to get anything from the online aspect, plus Microsoft came out and just went right we have online but you have to pay end of. 

I'd just rather go with the more honest and whats going to benefit me, than whats going to benefit the company.

lol lems should be the last ones criticising sony for charging online.

You suckers have been paying since the last gen,and xbox live doesn't even give free games:lol:

 

Plus,F2P games do not require a subscription.You can play planetside 2 multiplayer for hundreds of hours on ps4 without paying a penny;)

call_of_duty_10

Absolute, unadulterated hypocrisy :?

But I think you and just about everyone here already knows this. :P

I'll pay but they better speed up downloads and updates and don't make me install something after I download it be more like Xbox onewiththegame

I'm a bit upset about it, but 1) I don't game online, so I wouldn't be affected -- 2) I would consider picking it up for the free games. Just glad they didn't block other services with a paywall, that would have been ridiculous.

I'm going from X360 to PS4 so it doesn't bother me. If it helps them to make a better online experience then I'm all for it. It's only the price of a game and you will be given games anyway. Didn't the last year of PS+ save people about £1300 according to what the SixthAxis had researched?

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Snugenz"]

On Xbox One, no no i havn't, have you?.

And is that even a F2P game, just googled it and the XBLA site had a "Buy Now" button?.

Snugenz

Sounds like alot of assumptions and wishful thinking on your end, why you would want that is beyond me, i guess your fanboyism knows no bounds.

I'd say because after leaving Gamespot having paid my $50 for PS+, I can download Driveclub, a full retail $60 game, for free.

double_a73

Derp, you don't get the full version; you get a stripped, gimped "free-to-play" version.

I know I'm upset about it, so I won't be playing online...

Because cows love bending over for SonyRR360DD

You wish! I don't like having to pay. I don't defend it like idiotic Lems do! 

I DON'T WANT TO PAY & HAVE ALWAYS SHOWN THIS. I HAVE NEVER SHOWN THAT I'VE WANTED TO PAY OR DEFEND COMPANIES MAKING GAMERS PAY!!