Why are Microsoft using the word "Crosses" instead of "Sold?"

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Poll Why are Microsoft using the word "Crosses" instead of "Sold?" (25 votes)

Because they are in last place and selling poorly 68%
Because they are adapting to current trends 4%
Because it's a more accurate representation of player count 8%
Because it's a brilliant marketing and sales strategy 4%
I honestly haven no idea. 16%

So, 2 things are troubling for me.

1. Microsoft won't release Xbone numbers, instead saying they crossed "xxx" of people using gamepass.

2. They are now using "crosses" when talking about how much a game "sold", but never discolosing how much the game actual sold in retail.

For me this is a sign of weakness, but of course lemmings love the language because it makes it seem like their system is doing much better, when in fact it will never reach the sales of the ps4.

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#1 Chutebox
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A thread on it?

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#2 Pedro
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WOW, just WOW. MS really wrecked you with over 9 million Forza Horizon 3 players for this response thread. The burn is real. The 9 million is real. The salt is real.

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#3 Needhealing
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@Pedro said:

WOW, just WOW. MS really wrecked you with over 9 million Forza Horizon 3 players for this response thread. The burn is real. The 9 million is real. The salt is real.

Funny, lemmings now use words like "Crosses" and "Players" instead of "Sales". How does it feel to be in last place this gen?

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#4 Pedro
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@needhealing said:

Funny, lemmings now use words like "Crosses" and "Players" instead of "Sales". How does it feel to be in last place this gen?

I don't own MS so how could I be in last place?

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#5 Archangel3371
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Wow. You seriously felt the need to make an actual thread on this? Sad.

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#6 QuadKnight
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? PR talk that losers use.

When you're losing so badly like MS is you can't use actual numbers sold because they look embarrassing next your competition's.

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#7 ReCloud
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Because now they want to change the narrative, saying that sales don't matter, typical Microsoft.

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#8 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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They do it to hide weaker sales but it's also true that in the near future retail sales will be an ancient metric.

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#9 JtoThaMtoThaP
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Why do you care?

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#10 X_CAPCOM_X
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@phbz: no, it really won't. Unless you forsee a future of exclusively game services/gaas/f2p multiplayer etc. being a good thing, which I absolutely disagree with.

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#11 sakaiXx
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Saying 2 million played state of decay 2 instead of 300k sold is always better.

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#12 asylumni
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Because it would sound too sinister to say, "Forza Horizon 3 sold 9 million players"?

I think you're focusing on the wrong bit and really mean to question why they're counting players instead of sales. So players vs sales, not sold vs crosses.

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#13 StrongDeadlift
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Microsoft didnt even use the word in the title, in the article from the thread you're responding to. The reporter did.

/stupidthread.

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#14 freedomfreak
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Why are we filling up the place with reactionary threads?

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#15 ellos
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If you have multiple indicators to use you use the one that sound more positive. The actual sales are probably not too far from this number maybe a few mill off. This just sounds a lot sexier PR 101.

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#16 deactivated-5e081d8b4abb0
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@recloud said:

Because now they want to change the narrative, saying that sales don't matter, typical Microsoft.

D'awww this lame-o is back...thought he would be banned longer...

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#17 cainetao11
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Why do you care? You don't like the platform, the games, the corporation. What's the point? To pretend to SW you are asking for legitimate answers?

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#18 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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WOW the OP, benji & cloud are all (if they're not all the same people) getting worse than quack and that's saying something.

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#19 QuadKnight
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@i_p_daily said:

WOW the OP, benji & cloud are all (if they're not all the same people) getting worse than quack and that's saying something.

I'm living rent free in your head.

It seems my antics and trolling have permanently scarred you for life lol.

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@quadknight said:
@i_p_daily said:

WOW the OP, benji & cloud are all (if they're not all the same people) getting worse than quack and that's saying something.

I'm living rent free in your head.

It seems my antics and trolling have permanently scarred you for life lol.

See you just don't have anything anymore quack, these alts are taking over your crown as the worst cow on here, aren't you going to do something about it? I mean its the only thing you have going on so to lose that would be devastating for you :(

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#21 hrt_rulz01
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Lmao... salty cows everywhere!

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#22 QuadKnight
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@i_p_daily said:
@quadknight said:
@i_p_daily said:

WOW the OP, benji & cloud are all (if they're not all the same people) getting worse than quack and that's saying something.

I'm living rent free in your head.

It seems my antics and trolling have permanently scarred you for life lol.

See you just don't have anything anymore quack, these alts are taking over your crown as the worst cow on here, aren't you going to do something about it? I mean its the only thing you have going on so to lose that would be devastating for you :(

? Hahaha cry harder!! What a weak comeback.

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@quadknight said:
@i_p_daily said:
@quadknight said:
@i_p_daily said:

WOW the OP, benji & cloud are all (if they're not all the same people) getting worse than quack and that's saying something.

I'm living rent free in your head.

It seems my antics and trolling have permanently scarred you for life lol.

See you just don't have anything anymore quack, these alts are taking over your crown as the worst cow on here, aren't you going to do something about it? I mean its the only thing you have going on so to lose that would be devastating for you :(

? Hahaha cry harder!! What a weak comeback.

I was just stating the truth. And why would I be crying that you're losing your shitty title of queen cow, delusional moo moo lol.

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#24 scatteh316
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Because their hardware sales numbers are low but they can still show they have successes in other area's by talking about other services they offer.

Just a thought.

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#25 tormentos
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@Pedro said:

WOW, just WOW. MS really wrecked you with over 9 million Forza Horizon 3 players for this response thread. The burn is real. The 9 million is real. The salt is real.

Mostly on PC..lol

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#26 BenjaminBanklin
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I see the lems are already in their feelings over this topic. And I don't know why. THey KNOW Xbox is bad and things will continue to be bad. They've already abandoned this gen and are leaving a few suckers holding the bag on a $500 console. HAHAHAHA!

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#27 BenjaminBanklin
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@i_p_daily said:
@quadknight said:
@i_p_daily said:

WOW the OP, benji & cloud are all (if they're not all the same people) getting worse than quack and that's saying something.

I'm living rent free in your head.

It seems my antics and trolling have permanently scarred you for life lol.

See you just don't have anything anymore quack, these alts are taking over your crown as the worst cow on here, aren't you going to do something about it? I mean its the only thing you have going on so to lose that would be devastating for you :(

LOL! You people aren't used to anyone bringing the heat to Xbox on this forum, and you thought you could keep it your little Xbox safe place if you could just dogpile people with alts who talked against it. Nope, it's time to get bots on the run in this forum. All that crossplay begging is starting to annoy people.

Better call MS and beg them to hire some astroturfers for this forum.

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#28 R4gn4r0k
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Because fanboys care more about these words than gamers

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#30 MonsieurX
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Cool response thread

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#31  Edited By stuff238
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It is hardcore damage control.

It makes it sound like Forza and Sea Of Theives are a massive success because people played them once for “free”/gamepass.

When in reality both sold poorly.

Lems and Microsoft can keep on spinning and the rest of us will keep on laughing.

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#32 ribhu672
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@StrongDeadlift: and ofcourse the one comment which actually is meaningful gets ignored.

It seems most of these people on system wars live in their own bubble.

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#33 Pedro
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@joebones5000: Its not on gamepass ??

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#34 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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"You people aren't used to anyone bringing the heat to Xbox on this forum"

Funniest quote ever?

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#35 Pedro
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@phbz: Its even more funny because he believes it. Lol

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#36 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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@Pedro: To be fair that was probably just the script he got for today. That's how the troll farms work.

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