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Poll Who will win the next gen? (59 votes)

Sony 71%
Microsoft 29%

Yes we know sales don't matter ... or do they?

Also, we know that PC and Nintendo are not in the race as per se, i mean PC doesn't do gens the same way and Nintendo is happy selling a huge amount of consoles to gamers and none gamers alike, but the real meat of the "gaming rivalry" is Sony and MS.

Under that premise, and after seeing both of their cards for next gen ... who do you think will win? which platform will have the better gaming experience and yes, who will have the better sales? because let's not kid ourselves, they are both in the business to sell hardware.

So yeah, who will win and why ???

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#1  Edited By Pedro
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No idea and I don't think it matters anymore.
No idea and I don't think it matters anymore.

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#2 briguyb13
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Nintendo

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#3 madsnakehhh
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@Pedro said:
No idea and I don't think it matters anymore.
No idea and I don't think it matters anymore.

No it doesn't ... never did. But where is the fun if we don't debate about this in SW ???

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#4 Pedro
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@madsnakehhh said:

No it doesn't ... never did. But where is the fun if we don't debate about this in SW ???

There used to be stuff worth debating, but now its console size, UI, hard-drive size, CU, mic on controller and other trivial stuff.

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#5 madsnakehhh
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@briguyb13 said:

Nintendo

The only thing for sure in this industry through all my gaming years is ... never bet against Nintendo.

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@briguyb13 said:

Nintendo

you might be right if the next one is a hand held aswell. don't think nin can make a weak console anymore like the wii that is a console only. I think people want the 4k gaming in the living room while nin is more for on the go.

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#7 Ghosts4ever
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PC will win.

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@Pedro said:
@madsnakehhh said:

No it doesn't ... never did. But where is the fun if we don't debate about this in SW ???

There used to be stuff worth debating, but now its console size, UI, hard-drive size, CU, mic on controller and other trivial stuff.

I will never forget the endless threads about Metroid vs Halo vs MGS and even Half Life ... so many different games on all platforms ... and yeah, discussing UI is as sad as it can be ...

Still, i don't care, i want to see Cows and Lemms at it like every gen.

(and let's be honest, even you get some SW action against Tormentos every once in a while :P )

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#9 ConanTheStoner
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Could go either way, but if "winning" = consoles sold, PS5 seems a safe bet. Even if so, doubt it will be anything like the landslide this gen.

Either way, don't care. They'll both do well, but it won't affect my gaming.

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@gifford38 said:
@briguyb13 said:

Nintendo

you might be right if the next one is a hand held aswell. don't think nin can make a weak console anymore like the wii that is a console only. I think people want the 4k gaming in the living room while nin is more for on the go.

Switch beat the crap out of traditional, more powerful consoles this generation and can do the same for the next one.

All they have to do is release a 4K hybrid Switch Pro and it's over. At a $400 price range they'll dominate like they did this gen.

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#11 enzyme36
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I will win for sure... got my eyez on the prize

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#12  Edited By BlackShirt20
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I don’t know. I doubt care.

I just know the XSX is the better machine. Which is all I care about.

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#13 Pedro
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@madsnakehhh said:

I will never forget the endless threads about Metroid vs Halo vs MGS and even Half Life ... so many different games on all platforms ... and yeah, discussing UI is as sad as it can be ...

Still, i don't care, i want to see Cows and Lemms at it like every gen.

(and let's be honest, even you get some SW action against Tormentos every once in a while :P )

I bait him because he is an idiot. 😂

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#14  Edited By briguyb13
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@BlackShirt20 said:

I don’t know. I doubt care.

I just know the XSX is the better machine. Which is all I care about.

When it comes to traditional consoles, this is all that does matter. Sony lost Japanese titles to Nintendo, so all they have left are exclusives. I don't care for Sony's exclusives much anymore, so I have no interest in getting anymore Playstation systems, unless they went back to making handhelds.

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#15  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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The man keeping his wallet shut.

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#16 Bluestars
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not one system non-gamers..thats for sure

hah

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#17 SolidGame_basic
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Gamers will win. Yes, I chose the corny answer.

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@briguyb13 said:

Nintendo

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@madsnakehhh said:
@briguyb13 said:

Nintendo

The only thing for sure in this industry through all my gaming years is ... never bet against Nintendo.

Kinda odd you say that and not include them in the poll 😅. They're in one of the best position they've ever been in their recent history.

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#20  Edited By lundy86_4
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Gonna lean PS5, but MS have been making great strides. This is assuming how SW have always decided the game, which is hardware sales. Other metrics could show quite the opposite.

Not commenting on Ninty, as we have nothing on their next-gen.

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#21 sleepnsurf
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Who cares kid, get a hobby other that shitposts.

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#22 pyro1245
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not consumers.

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#23 madsnakehhh
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@sleepnsurf said:

Who cares kid, get a hobby other that shitposts.

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#24 LouiXIII
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The gamers as always

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#25 locopatho
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Nintendo. Then Sony. MS will... continue to exist.

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#26 Archangel3371
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Me. I’ll win because I’m a gamer and we always win. 😁

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#28 blamix
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I think it's gonna be Sony>Nintendo>MS again. But we never know

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Well Nintendo is already winning (how many they've sold i don't know nor care) or are we going to pretend that the Switch is not Nintendo's next gen machine?

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#30  Edited By Bluudynuckles
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@Pedro: Gamers will win / progress is defly showing on both

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#31 St_Monica
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The company that actually invests in the games and constantly produces masterpieces will win, not the one that is dedicated to devising tricks to increase monthly paying users.

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@Pedro said:
@madsnakehhh said:

No it doesn't ... never did. But where is the fun if we don't debate about this in SW ???

There used to be stuff worth debating, but now its console size, UI, hard-drive size, CU, mic on controller and other trivial stuff.

That's what you get for Xbox's poor library of games these past few years. waiting for a thread on xbox vapor chamber better than PS5.

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#33 Litchie
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PC and Nintendo.

I understand they totally shit on both PS and Xbox so much that you don't want them in your thread, but I don't care. They exist and will win. Hard. Whatever "wins" between the twin pleb boxes, I simply don't care. "The real meat", lol.

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Don't think it matters as much as people think anymore. It might end up being apples and oranges. MS are interested in their games and services no matter where you use it. So lets say console sales aren't amazing, but sales and subscriptions are high spread out across Xbox, PC, ios and Android, and they make a ton of money, does that mean they lose? I think hardware sales is a measurement for Sony, but I'm not sure it's the best or only measurement for MS anymore.

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@Pedro said:
@madsnakehhh said:

No it doesn't ... never did. But where is the fun if we don't debate about this in SW ???

There used to be stuff worth debating, but now its console size, UI, hard-drive size, CU, mic on controller and other trivial stuff.

"now"? When have console gamers not argued about all this crap? :-S

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@st_monica said:

The company that actually invests in the games and constantly produces masterpieces will win, not the one that is dedicated to devising tricks to increase monthly paying users.

What are these tricks you're referring to?

Oh and Sony making masterpieces, LMFAO good one.

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@madsnakehhh: Depends how you look at it.

Absolute sales, the number of consoles sold, the amount of profit made from console sales, software sales, subscriptions and peripherals or value added towards stock value?

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#38  Edited By robert_sparkes
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Sony will win the generation but MS will sell a lot more systems than this current gen.

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MS will not overcome a 3:1 deficit in one generation.

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@i_p_daily said:

Well Nintendo is already winning (how many they've sold i don't know nor care) or are we going to pretend that the Switch is not Nintendo's next gen machine?

So Nintendo is winning because...? You don't like Sony's success???

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More console doesn't equal a win in my book I go with the best console and it looks like MS will have the best console again.

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#42 sealionact
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@netracing: In terms of consoles sold? No. In terms of income per gamer? Yes.

Gamepass is that big of a deal.

The model of investing hundreds of millions of dollars in developing a game and recouping income through individual sales is going to die. There will still be huge AAA games developed, but the outlay will have a much better chance of being recouped on multiple platforms rather than if the game is an exclusive.

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  1. Microsoft Windows PC/Xbox
  2. Nintendo Switch
  3. PS5
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@i_p_daily said:
@st_monica said:

The company that actually invests in the games and constantly produces masterpieces will win, not the one that is dedicated to devising tricks to increase monthly paying users.

What are these tricks you're referring to?

Oh and Sony making masterpieces, LMFAO good one.

I'm referring to promoting poor quality live service games (e.g. Bleeding Edge and Grounded), touting a cloud service that isn't practical for many users (the standard mobile plan has data and speed limits), and pushing third-party games that can only be played for a period of time (e.g. RDR2 was only available on Game Pass for a few months). In the first place, are there any new high-quality first-party games coming out this holiday season from MS?

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#45  Edited By rzxv04
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Probably Sony in sales, awards, reception, AAA output and perhaps a newly reformed or created product for Gamepass as PSNow and Plus can still potentially change or get repurposed.

Zenimax seem like a wild card and I hope it does major damage to PS for better competition.

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@briguyb13 said:
@gifford38 said:
@briguyb13 said:

Nintendo

you might be right if the next one is a hand held aswell. don't think nin can make a weak console anymore like the wii that is a console only. I think people want the 4k gaming in the living room while nin is more for on the go.

Switch beat the crap out of traditional, more powerful consoles this generation and can do the same for the next one.

All they have to do is release a 4K hybrid Switch Pro and it's over. At a $400 price range they'll dominate like they did this gen.

i don't know about that unless it has next gen specs. because games like call of duty and sports game etc. third party games will always sell more on the ps or xbox.

the switch if you notice how much there exclusives sell then compare it to third party sales for each console. people by nin for mario, zelda, pokemon, and animal crossing.

like I said switch sold because its a hand held like the nin ds. so combining ds with console = switch.

ps and xbox owns third party sales.

but nin still has not beat the ps4. not sure it will before the next switch comes.

sony still beats nin world wide. I know ps4 was out earlier.

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@i_p_daily said:

Well Nintendo is already winning (how many they've sold i don't know nor care) or are we going to pretend that the Switch is not Nintendo's next gen machine?

So Nintendo is winning because...? You don't like Sony's success???

No its because its a next gen machine, not in specs which people confuse, but Nintendo started next gen when it released the Switch, go do your research. This has nothing to do with your precious Sony, why so fragile?

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Oldie but still awesome haha

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@kadin_kai said:

@madsnakehhh: Depends how you look at it.

Absolute sales, the number of consoles sold, the amount of profit made from console sales, software sales, subscriptions and peripherals or value added towards stock value?

What about ... most if not all of them. I mean for the look of it, Sony may have the edge on the console sales due to their previous success ... but overall MS seems to be on the path to win several other areas (value, new consumers, perception), so in the end even if Sony sells more, MS could be seeing as the winner.

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@netracing said:

MS will not overcome a 3:1 deficit in one generation.

Current has no bearing on the next gen. 360 proved it