Who is graphics king?

@Wasdie: I agree about your comments on lighting. I think a lot of people are missing the very subtle effects on what makes games like The Order truly stand out.

@FreedomFreeLife: I don't know what kind of settings you've played BF4 on, but the game looks as good and better in a lot of areas than BF3. It uses the same renderer with higher quality assets.

Is it me?

Star Citizen looks really cool.

dumbest poll ever. 3 of the games aren't even out yet to be judged properly. its basically killzone vs crysis 3 and in that case crysis 3

I thought it was actual real reality at first. Looks like Prometheus 2.

You live a very sheltered, sad life, apparently.

If your PC is even less powerful than Xbox 360 , then by no means it is a Gaming PC . You should build new PC from scratch instead of upgrading it because I don't think it is 64 bit system (necessary to support more than 4GB ram) and I won't be surprised if it doesn't even support PCI-E GPU .

The Order has fantastic rendering. It's what happens when you have modern rendering engines working with modern hardware. A lot of the best looking PC games were still bottlenecked by DX9. There is a reason by BF3/BF4 and Crysis 3 looked so good. They didn't support DX9. They were DX10/11 native.

Native resolution is ideal, but it isn't a deal breaker. What factors in when a game isn't native 1080p is the display device. If you've got a good tv the game is going to look better than if you've got a budget model. That's true regardless, but moreso when a game is under the native resolution. I'm really hoping some of these ps4 games that look great are also great games. I've given serious thought to selling my ps4.

vampire rain ftw

nothing is wrong. This forum transitioned to become hermspot.

I know its only the CGI cutscene at the start of the game, but the start of Civilisation V was some of the best graphics i've ever seen.

Ummm, we have no gameplay to go by for Uncharted 4 yet... Have people forgotten that cutscenes in Naughty dog games, while using thein-game engine, are touched up a great deal. Gameplay in the Last of Us didn't look anywhere near the cutscenes especially in the facial detail.

Let it be noted my friends, that on this wonderful sky blue day, August 20th in the year of our lord, 2014, that it came to pass, Star Citizen officially became known as the official graphics king of the people. Officially official. Forever.

From hence forth the ability to create graphic threads should probably be disabled. For all Sony users.

When an animals in pain it gets put out of it's misery. Aspiration without reward is misery. Doing so would be a humanitarian act.

I'll take FUD poll for the win!!

A guy comes and posts downsampled shots and people start saying there's no difference in BF3 and BF4. If this isn't a generational leap, then I don't know what is.

@faizan_faizan: Thank you.

I think a game should released and buyable in order to be in the running.

I am...my textures are amazing and I have CGI quality

Can't say Star Citizen at this point since all we've seen are lifeless hangars and empty space. Lets see those graphics in a city with hundreds of npc's going about their daily activities.

I still think Last Light on PC looks better than Crysis 3

Was going to say the same thing. How many times has a game look fantastic prior to release only to be downgraded in the final build?

Yawn. You're an absolutely terrible troll.

There are a few areas it looks better like textures and some of the character/monster models, but I think overall crysis 3 looks better.

except for the hermit who posted directly before me. do you even read?

Still waiting for that quote that I'm hyping that game

The game you were too scared to put on the poll:

A real next gen open world game unlike your Pew Pew PS360 ported corridor shooters. Feel that butthurt.

@Pray_to_me: Too scared? Just another game that would have lost in the poll :(

PBR + IES lighting profiles + reflections for some realism = CG.

IES lighting profiles is very close to what photometric light is in 3DS Max or whatever it's named in Maya. The Order and the new Silent Hills demo also use this, probably explains why they don't look all shiny like last-gen games.

Technical wise it probably will be Star Citizen

None technical wise I'd have to say The Wolf Among Us or LoZ on Wii U

@faizan_faizan said:

A guy comes and posts downsampled shots and people start saying there's no difference in BF3 and BF4. If this isn't a generational leap, then I don't know what is.

bf3 is first in each pair of images

BF3 can look good, but BF4 looks better. The end.

No, there is no subjective opinions here. There is fact. BF4 is everything the BF3 renderer was + additional features and MUCH higher resolution assets. It's not even a competition. This is not debatable. Ignoring this is being as ignorant as you can be and at this point is just blatant trolling.

Also what's with the FoV in those BF4 pictures? It looks like it's around 55-60.

the images speak for themselves.

why the hell is killzone on the list? sense makes no.

There are polygonal edges everywhere in BF3. Its mostly pre-baked lighting might look good in screenshots, but its awfully simple geometry and low resolution textures are no where near BF4's. I'm not sure why you even posted that.

This, too.

Kind of weird that Rise isn't there considering.

so you think the bf4 images look better? and bf4 uses the same prebaked lighting as bf3.

Those images you picked were cherry picked garbage. I could easily do that with any game. You picked some of the least cluttered/detailed maps you could have and lowered the FoV (no way that's above 60).

Here's some BF4 pics I just snapped...

There's also nothing wrong with prebaked lighting at all. If you're not going to do a dynamic night/day cycle or radically change the world lighting, prebaked lighting looks better and is much cheaper on systems. I would much rather the game run well than look a bit worse and run like crap. It's a competitive shooter, not a graphic card benchmark.

The geometries of the two games aren't even close. BF4 has much higher detail geometries, textures, materials, shading, and way better LoDing. Despite all of this the game ran really well on a wide variety of machines.

BF4 is the better looking game. Anybody who's actually played both will say that. Just because the game wasn't working right on launch doesn't make the game all of a sudden ugly.

Also the website decided to downres the pictures, I took them at 1440p but they were downscaled. Sad.

is the prebaked lighting statement directed to me? how are my screens cherry picked? i just chose 3 maps that are very close in size and have similar types of environments. bf4 actually has worse lod and many of the assets are very poor(especially the trees.....so fugly). just compare the 2nd assault maps to the bf3 versions if you want to easily see the worse lod in bf4.

edit - just saw you added a FOV comment. FOV is 90 in both bf4 and bf3

@m3dude1: BF4 does not have worse LoD. I've played both games extensively on the highest settings on the PC. BF4 is a better looking game all around. It's really not a competition.

Dat FoV. You can clearly tell you are a consolite.

Yes. Do you actually think otherwise? LOL.

That's not what I meant, I intended to convey that there are less dynamic light sources in BF3.

From all the games I've seen in motion (so I'll not count Uncharted 4 until gameplay is shown), The Order was actually the one that impressed me more. Star Citizen may be the technically most demanding game but in motion The Order had more visual candy imho.

inb4youonlysaythatbecauseyou'reacow

PS: Now that I think of it, the P.T. (Silent Hills) demo was very impressive and the closest I've seen of photorealism. It made me feel I was really there...

i dont see how anyone can look at those images and honestly say bf4 looks better

Because you intentionally took terrible pictures of BF4.

you act like i ran to some obscure part of the map and found some nearly out of bounds area with some super low res texture and blocky geometry. the bf3 images i used also are just random shots showing a wide view of the landscape, not some meticulously searched for spot showing the graphics in the best light possible.

And you're somehow ignoring all of the much improved geometry, textures, lighting, shading, and particle effects (especially particle effects) of BF4 over BF3.