When is it gonna be safe to say PS3 is a failure?

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#1 Reyes360
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If MGS4 flops and Killzone 2 Flops can we just end the debate? I just was wondering because as I defend my 360 all I am rewarded with is AAA exclusive titles and the best multiplats. Cows are rewarded by 4.5 Lair and Heavenly Flop? I mean come on lets try and have Sony be accountable sometime soon....

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#2 darkmario123
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PS3 is already a failure.
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#3 Ibacai
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At the end of the gen when we know the final outcome. But then it might not be safe even then.
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#4 Reyes360
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PS3 is already a failure. darkmario123

well I do agree its getting to be that time.

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ever since 3e 2006.
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#6 Reyes360
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At the end of the gen when we know the final outcome. But then it might not be safe even then.Ibacai

well its was pretty evident that dreamcast was a failure in the middle of last gen wars.

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When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next.
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#8 Reyes360
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When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. Shaqneel

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

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#9 Korrigan777
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reyes seriously did a sony rep kill your hamster or something?

neither of theconsoles will fail this gen. it wont be an even split, but the console on top wont have ps2-type dominance

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#10 Reyes360
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reyes seriously did a sony rep kill your hamster or something?

neither of theconsoles will fail this gen. it wont be an even split, but the console on top wont have ps2-type dominance

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#11 Unholy_Smite
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This is getting old! The PS3 is NOT a failure and most agree it will never be one! Will it sell 100 million like the PS2? NO! But it is NOT going to fail! I am sure I am not the only one sick of these threads! And how can 2 games not even released be flops?
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When the next machines from all 3 manufactures come out.
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When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. Shaqneel

beating a dead horse now arent we? falcon chips and 3 year warranty ring a bell?

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[QUOTE="Shaqneel"]When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. Reyes360

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

The 3 year warranty is not fixing the problem, it is ignoring it.

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]At the end of the gen when we know the final outcome. But then it might not be safe even then.Reyes360

well its was pretty evident that dreamcast was a failure in the middle of last gen wars.

Yes, that's fair enough but Sega was going under....Sony is not. The comparison is flawed on a few points.
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#16 Shelby_Goose
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Wow... The PS3 is FAR From Dead... it may not be in first, but if Its the only system bringing great games like Final Fantasy 13, Killzone 2, Ratchet and Clanks(I could go on, but I think those three are enough to get the point through) It will not be dead for a long time... It may be a little slow right now, but the sales and Games are not That Bad... Fanboys blow everything out of Propotion...
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]At the end of the gen when we know the final outcome. But then it might not be safe even then.Reyes360

well its was pretty evident that dreamcast was a failure in the middle of last gen wars.

The PS3 is selling better than the dreamcast did. Why do we need 50 zillion PS3 hate threads?

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#18 jethrovegas
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If the PS3 doesn''t eclipse15 million units sold by January 1st 2009, it should be considered a massive failure.
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#19 ginglejangle
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PS3 is already a failure. darkmario123

not even close.

even if mgs and FF flop the ps3 has a long way to go before it fails.

and 2008 will be a great year for the ps3 i see alot of AAA exlusives and AAA multiplats for that year.

and most of the multiplats are better on ps3....despite the scores .

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#21 my_name_is_ron
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[QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Shaqneel"]When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. Ragnarok1051

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

The 3 year warranty is not fixing the problem, it is ignoring it.

well really it is solving the problem. would you rather microsoft insist on siezing your 360 to be replaced? what's the point in that? not everyone's 360 has broken. extending the warranty to 3 years (which covers every 360 bought since launch) is the most practical solution to the problem of unreliable hardware second only to making the console with reliable hardware in the first place.

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#22 xBALOx
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The dayany XBOX360 dies.

The day Wii gets a decent 3rd party game.

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#23 wallpaper42
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I don't think it's going to be any time soon seeing how it's so reliable with a ton of great features like a web browser and blu ray. People always says it doesn't have any games, but it actually does have quite a few good games for being out for 8 months. The PS3 is also selling pretty good for being $500-600 and if you say the PS3 is failing for not selling as much as the Wii then that's like saying Lamborghinis fail because Hyundais sell a lot more.
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Even if MGS4 and KZ2 flop they will still sell well, why? Because they are big names! The casuals will eat them up..

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#25 Clock_Ticking
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PS3 is already a failure. darkmario123

just like lair :lol:

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#26 ball_of_air
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The PS3 is NOT a failure and most agree it will never be one! Unholy_Smite

Agreed. Most PS3 bashers here have stated that they might get a PS3 when it gets to the right price. They're not going to avoid it with a vengeance.

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What does a rating really matter? GS gave RFoM a 8.6 but i for one love the game to death. Just because it scored AA doesnt make me dissapointed with the game. Sure the 360 gets games that are scored AAA but does that mean all will love the game? Because i ps3 game is rated below AAA does that mean everyone will hate it?

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#28 Ragnarok1051
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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Shaqneel"]When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. my_name_is_ron

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

The 3 year warranty is not fixing the problem, it is ignoring it.

well really it is solving the problem. would you rather microsoft insist on siezing your 360 to be replaced? what's the point in that? not everyone's 360 has broken. extending the warranty to 3 years (which covers every 360 bought since launch) is the most practical solution to the problem of unreliable hardware second only to making the console with reliable hardware in the first place.

3 year warranty only covers the RROD, and theres more wrong with the 360 then just that. Why don't they just fix the problem? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the warranties.

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I think it will be safe when a way weaker gimmicky kiddie system out sells it.
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[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Shaqneel"]When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. Ragnarok1051

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

The 3 year warranty is not fixing the problem, it is ignoring it.

well really it is solving the problem. would you rather microsoft insist on siezing your 360 to be replaced? what's the point in that? not everyone's 360 has broken. extending the warranty to 3 years (which covers every 360 bought since launch) is the most practical solution to the problem of unreliable hardware second only to making the console with reliable hardware in the first place.

3 year warranty only covers the RROD, and theres more wrong with the 360 then just that. Why don't they just fix the problem? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the warranties.

they are fixing the problem but a warranty helps but the consumer at ease

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i think it is pretty much safe to say right now that ps3 is a pathetic failure of a console. a failure of any electronic period.
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#32 Unholy_Smite
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[QUOTE="darkmario123"]PS3 is already a failure. Clock_Ticking

just like lair :lol:

Lair isn't a failure, gamespot scores don't determine a failure. Lets see how it sells, if it is a million seller than all those lair bashers will look bad!

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#33 wallpaper42
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i think it is pretty much safe to say right now that ps3 is a pathetic failure of a console. a failure of any electronic period.rkay36

lol why

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#34 Unholy_Smite
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i think it is pretty much safe to say right now that ps3 is a pathetic failure of a console. a failure of any electronic period.rkay36

:roll:

Too bad the majority disagrees with you and the PS3 will sell 4 million US before the end of the year and 8 million worldwide. It is NOT a failure sheep.

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[QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Shaqneel"]When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. ParadiddleFill

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

The 3 year warranty is not fixing the problem, it is ignoring it.

well really it is solving the problem. would you rather microsoft insist on siezing your 360 to be replaced? what's the point in that? not everyone's 360 has broken. extending the warranty to 3 years (which covers every 360 bought since launch) is the most practical solution to the problem of unreliable hardware second only to making the console with reliable hardware in the first place.

3 year warranty only covers the RROD, and theres more wrong with the 360 then just that. Why don't they just fix the problem? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the warranties.

they are fixing the problem but a warranty helps but the consumer at ease

I just don't like it when someone says they are fixing the problem, and you ask them how and they say they extended the warranty. Thats not fixing the problem, thats just covering it up.

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At the end of the gen or when sony pulls the plug. Anywhere you never know, it might not even fail!
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[QUOTE="ParadiddleFill"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Ragnarok1051"][QUOTE="Reyes360"]

[QUOTE="Shaqneel"]When MS commits to making reliable console hardware, which at the rate they're going, only admitting to a hardware problem nearly 2 years after the launch, will probably not happen this gen or next. Ragnarok1051

3 year warranty and Falcon in production, now when can we talk about SONY being a failure?

The 3 year warranty is not fixing the problem, it is ignoring it.

well really it is solving the problem. would you rather microsoft insist on siezing your 360 to be replaced? what's the point in that? not everyone's 360 has broken. extending the warranty to 3 years (which covers every 360 bought since launch) is the most practical solution to the problem of unreliable hardware second only to making the console with reliable hardware in the first place.

3 year warranty only covers the RROD, and theres more wrong with the 360 then just that. Why don't they just fix the problem? Then they wouldn't have to worry about the warranties.

they are fixing the problem but a warranty helps but the consumer at ease

I just don't like it when someone says they are fixing the problem, and you ask them how and they say they extended the warranty. Thats not fixing the problem, thats just covering it up.

they are fixing it by putting in new falcon chips, the extended warranty is to help the consumer so he doesnt have to pay money in fixing his console

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[QUOTE="Korrigan777"]

reyes seriously did a sony rep kill your hamster or something?

neither of theconsoles will fail this gen. it wont be an even split, but the console on top wont have ps2-type dominance

Reyes360

Sorry dont understand

do you understand now?

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#39 ermacness
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I think it will be safe when a way weaker gimmicky kiddie system out sells it.BubbyJello
well that "gimmicky kiddie system" have outsold the 360 and the 360 had a year head start now with company should be more embarrassed by the wii's dominance in sales figures: Sony (who launched their console with a higher pricetag and that didn't have any of their known IP's that launched with the system) or m$ (who have been out a whole year and have had most of their hit titles to launched on the system) now i'm going to let you decide
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#40 muffin200
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Thefact is no system is a failure until EA stops making games for it. GC anyone?? So that's your answer.

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#41 bad82man82
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When PS3 fails. :?