When Great Developers go BAD

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#1 crozon
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Ok for me as a PC gamer this is depressing.

Company 1: RazorWorks

They made the excellent Enemy Engaged helicopter combat sim in 2000. So good its stil played today and until blackshark comes out the best combat heli sim out there.

Now days they make Speedball 2 Brutal Deluxe, Ford Street Racing. Not exactly the best games.

http://www.razorworks.com/games.html

Company 2: volition

They made descent and the brilliant space sim FreeSpace 2. Again Freespace 2 is still been played, and as the source code was released loads of free space sims have been developed, including one for battlestar galactica and a babylon 5 one.

Not that bad, they made the Punisher and Saints Row. Again far from their glory days.

http://www.volition-inc.com/

Company 3: Shiny

Man these guys were great they made sacrifice, messiah and mdk

then it went wrong, they made the god awful Matrix games and their last game was the Golden Compass. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

As a PC gamer all i see are once great PC developers move to the consoles and turn s&*t.

Makes you appreciate Valve, Blizzard, bioware, rockstar, companies that are still making great games.

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#2 Kirlok
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Rare

in the nintendo 64 era they were gods, then microsoft bought it and BARELY made any games, not so good anyway

i hope banjoo will be as awsome as the first one

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#3 oldvander
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Ok for me as a PC gamer this is depressing.

Company 1: RazorWorks

They made the excellent Enemy Engaged helicopter combat sim in 2000. So good its stil played today and until blackshark comes out the best combat heli sim out there.

Now days they make Speedball 2 Brutal Deluxe, Ford Street Racing. Not exactly the best games.

http://www.razorworks.com/games.html

Company 2: volition

They made descent and the brilliant space sim FreeSpace 2. Again Freespace 2 is still been played, and as the source code was released loads of free space sims have been developed, including one for battlestar galactica and a babylon 5 one.

Not that bad, they made the Punisher and Saints Row. Again far from their glory days.

http://www.volition-inc.com/

Company 3: Shiny

Man these guys were great they made sacrifice, messiah and mdk

then it went wrong, they made the god awful Matrix games and their last game was the Golden Compass. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

As a PC gamer all i see are once great PC developers move to the consoles and turn s&*t.

Makes you appreciate Valve, Blizzard, bioware, rockstar, companies that are still making great games.

crozon

I thought the port of red faction 1 on ps2 was excellent. red faction 2 was poor, but 1 was great!

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I use to go to Sega on Sundays, but then I found out it was nothing more than a myth...
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#5 Waffle_Fish
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Rare

in the nintendo 64 era they were gods, then microsoft bought it and BARELY made any games, not so good anyway

i hope banjoo will be as awsome as the first one

Kirlok

They havent gone that far downhill. Kameo was alright and Viva Pinata kicked major ass

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#6 Realmjumper
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Sometimes you have to work with what you have and make the best of it. They have to pay their bills and those were the games that were going to make money for them.

Also the games Rare has made on the 360 are decent and or above average. I played Perfect Dark Zero the other day at a friend's house and was surprised how good the bot play was. It was fun.

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Epic

...and any one else who dares slander the great PC GAMING!

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#8 Franko_3
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[QUOTE="crozon"]

Ok for me as a PC gamer this is depressing.

Company 1: RazorWorks

They made the excellent Enemy Engaged helicopter combat sim in 2000. So good its stil played today and until blackshark comes out the best combat heli sim out there.

Now days they make Speedball 2 Brutal Deluxe, Ford Street Racing. Not exactly the best games.

http://www.razorworks.com/games.html

Company 2: volition

They made descent and the brilliant space sim FreeSpace 2. Again Freespace 2 is still been played, and as the source code was released loads of free space sims have been developed, including one for battlestar galactica and a babylon 5 one.

Not that bad, they made the Punisher and Saints Row. Again far from their glory days.

http://www.volition-inc.com/

Company 3: Shiny

Man these guys were great they made sacrifice, messiah and mdk

then it went wrong, they made the god awful Matrix games and their last game was the Golden Compass. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

As a PC gamer all i see are once great PC developers move to the consoles and turn s&*t.

Makes you appreciate Valve, Blizzard, bioware, rockstar, companies that are still making great games.

oldvander

I thought the port of red faction 1 on ps2 was excellent. red faction 2 was poor, but 1 was great!

yeah, especially the mp mode, it was my first ever mp game :). I wonder if people are still playing it.

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#9 Kirlok
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[QUOTE="Kirlok"]

Rare

in the nintendo 64 era they were gods, then microsoft bought it and BARELY made any games, not so good anyway

i hope banjoo will be as awsome as the first one

Waffle_Fish

They havent gone that far downhill. Kameo was alright and Viva Pinata kicked major ass

dam i forgot about those 2 and i own them:P

yeah not saying they are bad, just not that awsome

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Ok for me as a PC gamer this is depressing.

Company 1: RazorWorks

They made the excellent Enemy Engaged helicopter combat sim in 2000. So good its stil played today and until blackshark comes out the best combat heli sim out there.

Now days they make Speedball 2 Brutal Deluxe, Ford Street Racing. Not exactly the best games.

http://www.razorworks.com/games.html

Company 2: volition

They made descent and the brilliant space sim FreeSpace 2. Again Freespace 2 is still been played, and as the source code was released loads of free space sims have been developed, including one for battlestar galactica and a babylon 5 one.

Not that bad, they made the Punisher and Saints Row. Again far from their glory days.

http://www.volition-inc.com/

Company 3: Shiny

Man these guys were great they made sacrifice, messiah and mdk

then it went wrong, they made the god awful Matrix games and their last game was the Golden Compass. Oh how the mighty have fallen.

As a PC gamer all i see are once great PC developers move to the consoles and turn s&*t.

Makes you appreciate Valve, Blizzard, bioware, rockstar, companies that are still making great games.

crozon
you mentioned rockstar and bioware....yet u state that the reason those certain developers went bad is mainly because they started making games for consoles.....lol hyporcrisy
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#11 BZSIN
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Didn't Volition make Red Faction 1+2 aswell? I loved both those games.
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#12 Hoffgod
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How, in a thread like this, does Factor 5 not get mentioned?
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i think capcom is starting to work there way in there. i mean DMC4 was good but it was still a disappointment along with LP and they've completely ruined the resident evil franchise by making it into another shooter
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Who ever says Rare, I wonder if they've played Viva Pinata.
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#15 crozon
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yeah i mentioned bioware and rockstar because they make great games. Despite the platform.

But the 3 i mentioned seemed to become crap since they moved to consoles. Really if they stuck with PC gaming, who knows they would still become s$%t or gone bust,

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i think capcom is starting to work there way in there. i mean DMC4 was good but it was still a disappointment along with LP and they've completely ruined the resident evil franchise by making it into another shooterRagashahs
what? RE series started becoming stale and old as heck....capcom did a great job with re4
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Factor 5...had an AAA title for Gamecube launch.

They made Lair for PS3...

Also, I have a feeling we can add Silicon Knights to that list when Too Human turns out to be awful.

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Volition shouldn't be in there, Saint's Row was great!! And the company that comes to mind is Sega :s
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#19 Baird-06
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[QUOTE="Kirlok"]

Rare

in the nintendo 64 era they were gods, then microsoft bought it and BARELY made any games, not so good anyway

i hope banjoo will be as awsome as the first one

Waffle_Fish

They havent gone that far downhill. Kameo was alright and Viva Pinata kicked major ass

Let's be honest here... Rare is only a shadow of its former self.

Doesn't mean they still can't make good games though.

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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]i think capcom is starting to work there way in there. i mean DMC4 was good but it was still a disappointment along with LP and they've completely ruined the resident evil franchise by making it into another shooterDante2710
what? RE series started becoming stale and old as heck....capcom did a great job with re4

what? RE was great teh way it was they could have added elements to it instead of completely changing the gameplay and making a shooter fest. this is not RE no matter what you say. RE is a survival horror not a shoot em up game with zombies. if you are a true RE fan you should be outraged
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#21 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]i think capcom is starting to work there way in there. i mean DMC4 was good but it was still a disappointment along with LP and they've completely ruined the resident evil franchise by making it into another shooterRagashahs
what? RE series started becoming stale and old as heck....capcom did a great job with re4

what? RE was great teh way it was they could have added elements to it instead of completely changing the gameplay and making a shooter fest. this is not RE no matter what you say. RE is a survival horror not a shoot em up game with zombies. if you are a true RE fan you should be outraged

im a RE fan, and RE4 was def fresh and something that was needed......i was tired of running around, with dumbass AI and lost in long and pointless puzzles........now......im a bit concerned with re5 becoming too much action and no survival horror in it whatsoever....hopefully capcom can balanced things out
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#22 Ragashahs
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[QUOTE="Ragashahs"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Ragashahs"]i think capcom is starting to work there way in there. i mean DMC4 was good but it was still a disappointment along with LP and they've completely ruined the resident evil franchise by making it into another shooterDante2710
what? RE series started becoming stale and old as heck....capcom did a great job with re4

what? RE was great teh way it was they could have added elements to it instead of completely changing the gameplay and making a shooter fest. this is not RE no matter what you say. RE is a survival horror not a shoot em up game with zombies. if you are a true RE fan you should be outraged

im a RE fan, and RE4 was def fresh and something that was needed......i was tired of running around, with dumbass AI and lost in long and pointless puzzles........now......im a bit concerned with re5 becoming too much action and no survival horror in it whatsoever....hopefully capcom can balanced things out

considering the RE4 was pretty much all about action and not really about survival horror i doubt RE5 will be any different
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#23 TMontana1004
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Factor 5...had an AAA title for Gamecube launch.

They made Lair for PS3...

Also, I have a feeling we can add Silicon Knights to that list when Too Human turns out to be awful.

AvIdGaMeR444

IF it turns out to be awful. People who aren't wearing fanboy goggles can actually see the potential in this game.

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#24 Ninja-Hippo
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You had a great post going until you tried to somehow say that it's the consoles' fault that these games are bad. :|