What's so bad about Fallout 4's graphics?

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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Everything looks pretty good except for the facial animations. I am playing on PC though. But I don't think it would be that MUCH different on console. Am I right, SW? Are people exaggerating about the graphics in this game?

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#2 intotheminx
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The people I know who are playing on PC have no problem with it. I think it stems from console versions having slightly less texture quality and AA.

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#3  Edited By MuD3
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Well I'm playing on PC on ultra... I have no complaints other than the facial animations as well, but I'm just happy there isn't the weird floating around movement the previous games had. People were complaining about the graphics from the first footage we ever saw, I didn't see how it was bad then either.

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#4 DocSanchez
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Too many people are just morons who knee jerk so fast Usain Bolt would find it difficult to keep up.

Everything is either the best ever or worst ever to them, and there is just no inbetween or nuance. Hence a game that doesn't have the best ever graphics contains a fatal flaw that over shadows everything else.

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#5  Edited By olart4618
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There are fine, 20+ hours of fun, this place is full of fanboys, system wars reflects whats wrong with the industry, I just come here for the laughs that cause me these dickheads

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#6 zassimick  Moderator
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Visuals look good to me. Not the best, but that was never going to be the case nor is it a problem in any way.

At least it doesn't look like the muddy, murky green mess of Fallout 3.

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#7 DaVillain  Moderator
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Does it look as good as The Witcher 3? No. Does it look better than any other game in the fallout series? Yes. But it still looks better than Skyrim or Fallout 3 did and if it is as optimized as Skyrim then we won't have the riot that comes with a newly released un-optimized AAA games. I'll take a compelling story and fun gameplay over graphics any day. No doubt but I'm playing it on PC ultra settings but the console gamers however, they are ripe with people hating on the graphics of Fallout 4. I'd say 7 out of every 10 impressions post is negative to some degree.

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#8 thehig1
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Looks ok, the wasteland can look amazing at times.

Im approaching 40 hours game time on it

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#9 A-new-Guardian
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Have a feeling this thread has a hidden agenda behind it.

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#10 Wizard
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The textures are terrible. I think Bethesda was thinking "they're just going to mod it anyway", which is just as lazy as it is true.

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#11 clyde46
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Ive bought it now, just waiting for it to download.

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#12  Edited By UltimateImp
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This is 2015, and the graphics in this game are not acceptable when you take the time to look at other games in its genre. Now, look at the textures in this game, they're low resolution, and they look really bad from short to medium range. It is really an immersion breaker when you can count how many polygons there are on your gun.

How come there are so many people who are dumb-founded that with the evolution of technology, expectations become higher? The game looks like shit, and it also performs even worse. I'm still buying it come the GoTY edition in 6 months for 5 dollars.

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#13 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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The texture work, animations, saturation, and draw distance are pretty bad, but it's nothing unmanageable.

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It, like any Bethesda game, is already dated.

Unfortunately, it takes the mod community to bring their games up to modern standards.

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#15 coasterguy65
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Game looks fine to me. Not great, but it does what it needs to do just fine.

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#16 khoofia_pika
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The graphics

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#17 tushar172787
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Bethesda in a nutshell
Bethesda in a nutshell

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#18 Epak_
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Everything. Consoles are way more capable than what Bethesda managed to do, especially when the game is 30 fps only.

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#19 Frank_Castle
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People love to bitch

I haven't seen what it looks like on consoles, but on PC with everything maxed out, the game world looks pretty damn impressive to me. Sure, the character models aren't anything to write home about, but they aren't fucking hideous either.

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#20 Epak_
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@frank_castle: GTAV looks better, Infamous SS/FL looks better, TW3 looks better. The NPCs look pretty damn bad, overall the graphics look lazy.

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#21  Edited By Frank_Castle
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@Epak_ said:

@frank_castle: GTAV looks better, Infamous SS/FL looks better, TW3 looks better. The NPCs look pretty damn bad, overall the graphics look lazy.

Who cares?

GTA V is a linear game masquerading as an open world game. What are there...like 8 fucking buildings in the entire game that you can walk into? Doesn't have nearly the amount of interaction that Bethesda games possess.

Ditto for Infamous, but to an even greater degree.

Witcher 3 is the ONLY open world game whose graphics I found truly stunning. And even then it's not one seamless, open world. It's broken down into a bunch of fucking zones just like DA: Inquisition.

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#22 deactivated-5a7fcf5e55c95
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Yeah they aren't terrible, but aren't great either. I'd agree though, mostly it's just the facial animations that are very doody. Mama Murphy especially. I think as long as the graphics fit their art style or environment they're mostly fine. They don't need to be groundbreaking, but it is a shame Bethesda didn't try as hard with the graphics as some other developers do, but as always graphics are usually the least important aspect.

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@frank_castle said:
@Epak_ said:

@frank_castle: GTAV looks better, Infamous SS/FL looks better, TW3 looks better. The NPCs look pretty damn bad, overall the graphics look lazy.

Who cares?

GTA V is a linear game masquerading as an open world game. What are there...like 8 fucking buildings in the entire game that you can walk into? Doesn't have nearly the amount of interaction that Bethesda games possess.

Ditto for Infamous, but to an even greater degree.

Witcher 3 is the ONLY open world game whose graphics I found truly stunning. And even then it's not one seamless, open world. It's broken down into a bunch of fucking zones just like DA: Inquisition.

yea, except Velen by itself is way bigger than FO4's map. Probably by several orders of magnitude. You can also run from the countryside into large towns like Oxenfurt or Velen and into a large interior environment without a single loading screen, while at the same time looking better and running better than Fallout 4.

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#24 mjorh
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It's like a last gen game, i don't know why ppl try to hide the obvious fact , it could've been hell a lot better .... don't give a free pass to Bethesda.

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#25 SuperFlyZero
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Nothing. It looks significantly better than FO3 and FONV did on consoles last gen, and that's all that matters.

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#26  Edited By Juub1990
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@frank_castle said:

Who cares?

GTA V is a linear game masquerading as an open world game. What are there...like 8 fucking buildings in the entire game that you can walk into? Doesn't have nearly the amount of interaction that Bethesda games possess.

Ditto for Infamous, but to an even greater degree.

Witcher 3 is the ONLY open world game whose graphics I found truly stunning. And even then it's not one seamless, open world. It's broken down into a bunch of fucking zones just like DA: Inquisition.

GTA V is open-world. Just because the quests are linear doesn't make it any less so. It still takes a dump on Fallout IV graphically and was released 1/2 years before. Middle Earth: Shadow of Mordor, Witcher 3, Infamous SS, GTA V, Just Cause 3 are all open-world games and look a generation ahead of Fallout IV.

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@Juub1990 said:
@frank_castle said:

Who cares?

GTA V is a linear game masquerading as an open world game. What are there...like 8 fucking buildings in the entire game that you can walk into? Doesn't have nearly the amount of interaction that Bethesda games possess.

Ditto for Infamous, but to an even greater degree.

Witcher 3 is the ONLY open world game whose graphics I found truly stunning. And even then it's not one seamless, open world. It's broken down into a bunch of fucking zones just like DA: Inquisition.

GTA V is open-world. Just because the quests are linear doesn't make it any less so. It still takes a dump on Fallout IV graphically and was released 1/2 years before.

and witcher 3s individual maps are way bigger than other open world games with no loading screens at all while looking orgasmic.

Fallout 4 is a technical disaster.

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#28 blueinheaven
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@superflyzero said:

Nothing. It looks significantly better than FO3 and FONV did on consoles last gen, and that's all that matters.

Your standards and those of Bethesda are clearly in alignment.

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#29 SuperFlyZero
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@blueinheaven said:
@superflyzero said:

Nothing. It looks significantly better than FO3 and FONV did on consoles last gen, and that's all that matters.

Your standards and those of Bethesda are clearly in alignment.

Agreed. Real gamer standards. Go watch a movie.

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#30  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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I fired up Witcher 3 today for the first time and snapped these two pictures...

THIS is what a 2015 game should look like.

Fallout 4 is ugly in every way possible. Horrible textures, flat out bad lighting/shading, very low resolution geometry, and everything has this weird blur to it. It's really bad.

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#31 rektmuhface
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it's an ugly ass game in every imaginable way. One color palette, low res textures, blurry/muddy textures, animation that rivals PS1 games, awful AA, the shit list goes on...

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#32 MlauTheDaft
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Let's not pretend that Bethesda games don't have a ton of loading screens. You may have an open world, but there are litterally hundreds of doors to load thorugh.

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#33  Edited By lundy86_4
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It's dated in pretty much every aspect. Buggy as all Hell, and the looks that only a mother could love.

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#34 blueinheaven
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@superflyzero said:
@blueinheaven said:
@superflyzero said:

Nothing. It looks significantly better than FO3 and FONV did on consoles last gen, and that's all that matters.

Your standards and those of Bethesda are clearly in alignment.

Agreed. Real gamer standards. Go watch a movie.

I play games and I watch movies. I don't expect a movie when I play a game and you don't even know what fucking games I play anyway so what is your point? 'real' gamers love shit graphics? Read your post back and feel stupid THAT would be 'real'.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

Everything looks pretty good

It doesn't really.

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#36 FattyMacFatCat
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@Wasdie said:

I fired up Witcher 3 today for the first time and snapped these two pictures...

THIS is what a 2015 game should look like.

Fallout 4 is ugly in every way possible. Horrible textures, flat out bad lighting/shading, very low resolution geometry, and everything has this weird blur to it. It's really bad.

Every time I fire this game up i end up strolling through the wilderness/cities, this game is a work of art. I wonder how big the budget was for fallout 4 compared to this game,

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#37  Edited By SuperFlyZero
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@blueinheaven said:
@superflyzero said:
@blueinheaven said:
@superflyzero said:

Nothing. It looks significantly better than FO3 and FONV did on consoles last gen, and that's all that matters.

Your standards and those of Bethesda are clearly in alignment.

Agreed. Real gamer standards. Go watch a movie.

I play games and I watch movies. I don't expect a movie when I play a game and you don't even know what fucking games I play anyway so what is your point? 'real' gamers love shit graphics? Read your post back and feel stupid THAT would be 'real'.

Real gamers play games, watchers count pixels and complain. Smart people have dialog, the uneducated get mad and call people names.

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#38 DriftingHaze
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Nothing, it just not my type of game after giving it a try. I'm like tradition JRPGs.

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#39 Juub1990
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@superflyzero said:

Real gamers play games, watchers count pixels and complain. Smart people have dialog, the uneducated get mad and call people names.

So we should all just go back to Atari 2600 graphics? Read your post again and be ashamed.

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#40 blueinheaven
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@superflyzero said:
@blueinheaven said:
@superflyzero said:
@blueinheaven said:
@superflyzero said:

Nothing. It looks significantly better than FO3 and FONV did on consoles last gen, and that's all that matters.

Your standards and those of Bethesda are clearly in alignment.

Agreed. Real gamer standards. Go watch a movie.

I play games and I watch movies. I don't expect a movie when I play a game and you don't even know what fucking games I play anyway so what is your point? 'real' gamers love shit graphics? Read your post back and feel stupid THAT would be 'real'.

Real gamers play games, watchers count pixels and complain. Smart people have dialog, the uneducated get mad and call people names.

So by your logic anyone who plays games is a real gamer? You're contradicting yourself already. They play the same games as you they just don't accept low standards and incompetence whereas you will meekly bow before the devs 'I am not worthy' and similar bollocks and nobody watches pixels but they can very clearly tell if a game looks last gen on their current gen console.

If we were all like you I dread to think the state games would be released in. Fortunately for the future of the videogame industry we don't all accept whatever shit is thrown at us and praise the devs for it.

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#41 clone01
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Its not a beauty, but its not that bad. Game is a lot of fun. Too many folks get their panties in a bunch.

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#42 SuperFlyZero
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@Juub1990: @blueinheaven: You guys like games like Ryse, The Order, Beyond: Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Until Dawn. You're looking forward to Detroit: Become Human.

Be very ashamed of yourselves.

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#43 Juub1990
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@superflyzero said:

@Juub1990: @blueinheaven: You guys like games like Ryse, The Order, Beyond: Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Until Dawn. You're looking forward to Detroit: Become Human.

Be very ashamed of yourselves.

You joined a week and a half ago and you're already trolling?

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#44 SuperFlyZero
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@Juub1990 said:
@superflyzero said:

@Juub1990: @blueinheaven: You guys like games like Ryse, The Order, Beyond: Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Until Dawn. You're looking forward to Detroit: Become Human.

Be very ashamed of yourselves.

You joined a week and a half ago and you're already trolling?

I've noticed it's what you guys do here: complain like your own problems are the world's, act like entitled babies, make immature comments, troll, pretend to be bad asses, call each other retarded names.

Just trying to fit in.

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#45 silversix_
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Textures, textures are atrocious. Lighting is what saves its visuals *on pc* a little bit

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#46 blueinheaven
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@silversix_ said:

Textures, textures are atrocious. Lighting is what saves its visuals *on pc* a little bit

Lighting will be the same as on PC. At least the texture problem on PC will be solved with mods which will never happen on console.

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@superflyzero said:
@Juub1990 said:
@superflyzero said:

@Juub1990: @blueinheaven: You guys like games like Ryse, The Order, Beyond: Two Souls, Heavy Rain, Until Dawn. You're looking forward to Detroit: Become Human.

Be very ashamed of yourselves.

You joined a week and a half ago and you're already trolling?

I've noticed it's what you guys do here: complain like your own problems are the world's, act like entitled babies, make immature comments, troll, pretend to be bad asses, call each other retarded names.

Just trying to fit in.

@superflyzero Hahaha agreed! Got to love the internet sometimes...

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#48 AcidTango
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Haven't played FO4 yet but from the gameplay videos that I been seeing it does look ugly for even a modern open world game. The Witcher 3 which is also a open world rpg looks very nice compared to FO4. But lets be honest here, seeing that FO3 and New Vegas were also ugly and the fact that Skyrim was also not very impressive isn't really a surprise that FO4 is also not that good looking ether. Hell even Oblivion had really ugly character models too and people say it was Bethesda's last game that was considered impressive for its time. The engines that is being used in Bethesda games which is Gamebryo or the Creation Engine are not the best engine in terms of great visuals.

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#49 GarGx1
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The lighting on a PC set to Ultra can actually make the game look half decent, then you turn a corner and the graphics are back to fugly again.

I hope the modding community creates some magic soon but I think it will be several months, at least, before, it gets close to acceptable. As far as graphics are concerned what's needed are high res textures and massive improvements to character models. (it needs far more but those two would be a good start).

I still can't stop playing though, fucking game I've even made myself a Power Armour garage

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#50 wis3boi
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@intotheminx said:

The people I know who are playing on PC have no problem with it. I think it stems from console versions having slightly less texture quality and AA.

this