What would you rather have: Power vs Shorter load times?

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#1  Edited By lifelessablaze
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I would rather have the shorter load times promised by Sony over marginal performance gain. Long load times are the worst parts about console gaming, much worse than low frame rate and there's no denying that. I'm happy that Sony chose to focus on one aspect of console gaming that has been over a decade behind PC gaming.

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@lifelessablaze said:

I would rather have the shorter load times promised by Sony over marginal power gain. Long load times are the worst parts about console gaming, much worse than low frame rate and there's no denying that. I'm happy that Sony chose to focus on one aspect of console gaming that has been over a decade behind PC gaming.

You can have both you know...

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#4 BenjaminBanklin
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How about good games? I feel like this is a constantly overlooked feature in the console wars.

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#5 clone01
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more bits and polygons.

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#6  Edited By Serraph105
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I feel like Nintendo's strategy that they adopted back in 2007 with the Wii of developing super fun gaming experiences instead of trying to make huge leaps in graphics with each new console is finally showing that it has longer financial legs than the race to the top of the graphics mountain that Sony and Microsoft went at full throttle.

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#7 lifelessablaze
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

How about good games? I feel like this is a constantly overlooked feature in the console wars.

No ty. If Xbone taught me anything from this gen is that videogames actually suck and the only thing there's room to improve on is sharper image quality and frames.

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#8 Archangel3371  Online
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Well the Xbox Series X will also have significantly shorter load times also so I guess that I’ll got with that. 🤷‍♂️

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#9 DaVillain  Moderator
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Shorter loading time is my prefer choice and since I get both worlds on PC, owning the most powerful console doesn't benefit me anyways, so shorter load times is the logical choice :)

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#10 MonsieurX
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@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:
@lifelessablaze said:

I would rather have the shorter load times promised by Sony over marginal power gain. Long load times are the worst parts about console gaming, much worse than low frame rate and there's no denying that. I'm happy that Sony chose to focus on one aspect of console gaming that has been over a decade behind PC gaming.

You can have both you know...

Yes I know, with PC...but we're discussing consoles. Please keep up or I will request a ban.

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#11 DaVillain  Moderator
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Be nice you guys above me. Or all call the damn police on you all!

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#12 blueinheaven
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The power difference won't be huge and the difference in loading times won't be either, it's not like Sony are using an SSD and Series X will have a conventional hard drive or anything.

Judge them both on the games, always the games, unless you're some kind of asshat fanboy.

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#13 sirk1264
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@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:
@lifelessablaze said:

I would rather have the shorter load times promised by Sony over marginal power gain. Long load times are the worst parts about console gaming, much worse than low frame rate and there's no denying that. I'm happy that Sony chose to focus on one aspect of console gaming that has been over a decade behind PC gaming.

You can have both you know...

Yes I know, with PC...but we're discussing consoles. Please keep up or I will request a ban.

Ugh I guess you forgot the series X also has SSD for storage too. So you also get fast loading times and more power. Maybe you should understand how hardware works before posting crap.

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#14 TJDMHEM
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short loading times.

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#15 tdkmillsy
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I'd take reducing significantly (compared to hdd) and more power over reducing speed more significantly and less power

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#16  Edited By PraetorianMan
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I'm betting there will be very little actual meaningful difference between the consoles. This only becomes a problem if somehow the more expensive console ends up being the weaker one again, i.e. base Xone vs base PS4.

In terms of this choice... I think I'd rather have load times be super short. Especially for something where you have to reload frequently, like Bloodborne.

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#17 FinalFighters
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MS is giving people both.

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#20 Howmakewood
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@blueinheaven said:

The power difference won't be huge and the difference in loading times won't be either, it's not like Sony are using an SSD and Series X will have a conventional hard drive or anything.

Judge them both on the games, always the games, unless you're some kind of asshat fanboy.

that's just too much reason for here.

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@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:
@lifelessablaze said:

I would rather have the shorter load times promised by Sony over marginal power gain. Long load times are the worst parts about console gaming, much worse than low frame rate and there's no denying that. I'm happy that Sony chose to focus on one aspect of console gaming that has been over a decade behind PC gaming.

You can have both you know...

Yes I know, with PC...but we're discussing consoles. Please keep up or I will request a ban.

What the... O_o

Some people take SW waaaaay too seriously.

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#22 R4gn4r0k
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Marginal better loading times vs marginal power difference.

I guess the marginal power difference can make the difference between acceptable and unacceptable framerates

I can wait for a game to load. Always have.

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@lifelessablaze: "Please keep up or I will request a ban."

Are you for real? Go learn how to debate with people instead of posting empty, childish threats.

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#24  Edited By BassMan
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I love how load times are all of the sudden a major talking point. PC players have been enjoying playing games on SSD for years and console players downplayed it. Now consoles are finally getting SSDs as standard and it is a big thing. Console players are all excited for ray tracing now too.... LOL

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#25 Telekill
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@BenjaminBanklin: Agreed. Good games seem to be forgotten in here as all games are considered crappy.

So... I think it's safe to say, get the system that has the games you prefer. If someone follows that advice, they'll have a great generation.

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@lifelessablaze said:
@MonsieurX said:
@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:
@lifelessablaze said:

I would rather have the shorter load times promised by Sony over marginal power gain. Long load times are the worst parts about console gaming, much worse than low frame rate and there's no denying that. I'm happy that Sony chose to focus on one aspect of console gaming that has been over a decade behind PC gaming.

You can have both you know...

Yes I know, with PC...but we're discussing consoles. Please keep up or I will request a ban.

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@lifelessablaze: "Please keep up or I will request a ban."

Are you for real? Go learn how to debate with people instead of posting empty, childish threats.

Yes, apparently for real, look above you...

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#27 SOedipus
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I would rather have both, and I do. Please don't ban.

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@SOedipus said:

I would rather have both, and I do. Please don't ban.

How dare you care about quality and not want to compromise? This is outrageous!

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#29 lundy86_4
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Gimme both, please and thanks.

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@SOedipus said:

I would rather have both, and I do. Please don't ban.

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Everything PC does better than console. its been doing since 2 decades.

Next.

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#32 ConanTheStoner  Online
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shorter power

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#33  Edited By deactivated-63d1ad7651984
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Power

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#34 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Have both already.

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#35  Edited By MirkoS77
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I'll always choose power. Power doesn't make a good game, but it makes a good game better. I can wait a few more seconds for a game to load, the time to wait vs the benefit to the game ratio isn't even questionable in my mind. Give me more silicon.

Power, power, power. Every time.

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#36 pyro1245
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I'd rather it be quiet

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#37  Edited By deactivated-5efed3ebc2180
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@pyro1245 said:

I'd rather it be quiet

I mean, i prefer Fractal Design mainly due to build quality, but this one looks really solid:

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#38 Bluestars
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Both consoles will be more powerful and have faster load times than last gen.

HaH

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#39  Edited By deactivated-5efed3ebc2180
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@bluestars said:

Both consoles will be more powerful and have faster load times than last gen.

HaH

Started playing it safe, after you found out that you will get stuck with 30fps for another gen, huh?

^_~

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@WESTBLADE: What model is that?? That looks awesome

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@navyguy21:
https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1203
Yea, looks fancy except the thumb screws on the side panel/window already bug the hell out of me...

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#43 Mozelleple112
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@BenjaminBanklin: Sony always wins that, so not really up for a discussion.

Will be interesting to see how good the loading screens are. I absolutely despise the loading screens in most games.

Sony promises 15 second cut scenes to take 0.8 seconds.

Won't believe it til I see it. Boot up RDR2 in 2 seconds?

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@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:

@navyguy21:

https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1203

Yea, looks fancy except the thumb screws on the side panel/window already bug the hell out of me...

GO CRY

You are a bit f*cking odd... Enjoy the short stay.

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#45 lifelessablaze
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@lundy86_4 said:
@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:

@navyguy21:

https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1203

Yea, looks fancy except the thumb screws on the side panel/window already bug the hell out of me...

GO CRY

You are a bit f*cking odd... Enjoy the short stay.

You think I'd get banned for that?

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#46 Bluestars
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@WESTBLADE:

Facts

You can’t beat them

HaH

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#47 Bluestars
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@WESTBLADE:

Facts

You can’t beat them

HaH

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@bluestars said:

@WESTBLADE:

Facts

You can’t beat them

HaH

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@lifelessablaze said:
@lundy86_4 said:
@lifelessablaze said:
@WESTBLADE said:

@navyguy21:

https://www.bequiet.com/en/case/1203

Yea, looks fancy except the thumb screws on the side panel/window already bug the hell out of me...

GO CRY

You are a bit f*cking odd... Enjoy the short stay.

You think I'd get banned for that?

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#50 Pedro
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The Series X offers both.¯\_(ツ)_/¯