What things has hurt Microsoft the most with gamers?

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Poll What things has hurt Microsoft the most with gamers? (22 votes)

Halo Infinite gameplay Reveal trailer (looked rough) 32%
Halo Infinite delay (no good launch games now for x-series) 41%
Closing down Lionhead (a prestigious studio creators of fable) 36%
Canceling Scalebound (Xb1's exclusive JRPG) 36%
Rocket League timed exclusive off XB1 18%
Street Fighter 5 kept off the XB1 23%
FF7 Remake timed exclusive off XB1 27%
No Man's Sky timed exclusive off XB1 14%
Losing Timed Deals with Call of Duty 27%
Losing Timed Deals with Destiny 27%
XB1 being bundled with kinect for extra 100 dollars 45%
XB1 being underpowered compared to the PS4 27%
No Next-Gen only exclusives for 2 years on X-Series 41%
Terrible X-Series Launch Games 27%
Halo 5 / Halo MCC Flopping with fans 18%
Achievements falling behind Trophies with no Platinums for 100% 14%
Fall Guys timed exclusive kept of XB1 9%
Indies like Bro Force skipping XB1 because of parity clause 18%
Persona 5 skipping xb1 23%
Old JRPG Remasters like ff7/ffx/ff12/kingdom hearts coming to xb1 later on 14%
XB1 Controller still using AA Batteries and bad Bumpers and D-Pad no bluetooth/headphone jack on version 1 23%
XB1's confusing laggy User interface with no dynamic themes and adverts that block the view of your wallpaper 18%
XB1 not having a real baseball game like MLB the Show 18%
Microsoft discontinuing 12 month live sub and charging 100 dollars per year 23%
Xbox Live not allowing players to play free to play games online for free 27%
XB1's fat ugly VCR design with external giant power supply 23%
Xbox not getting a VR headset like PC/PS4 32%
X-Cloud not being on iPhones and iPads at launch 27%
Microsoft paying Youtubers to say good things about Xbox One and not revealing they were paid (machinma incident) 18%
Not supporting Kinect after force bundling it on early adopters 18%
Telling gamers XB1 was an always online system and couldn't trade games without a fee 32%
Rare talent leaving after the buy out and making low quality games since 36%
Gears of War losing relevance 23%
Not getting Spiderman in Avengers or standalone 18%
PS+ usually having better games than Games with Gold 27%
Batman exclusive content 23%
Red Dead Redemption 2 exclusive content 18%

Might have missed a few things but there is just too much Xbox brand has been doing lately.

You can vote for multiple things.

Do you think Microsoft and Xbox can reverse some of this stuff and turn the ship around? Or will they just stay set in their ways and ignore all issues?

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#1 Telekill
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Dude... how long did it take you to make this troll thread?

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#2 onesiphorus
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There are too many choices in your poll. You should limit the number of choices to a small number that are the most concern.

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#3 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@onesiphorus said:

There are too many choices in your poll. You should limit the number of choices to a small number that are the most concern.

I can't dude the xbox is facing way too many issues right now its too big

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#4 SOedipus
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Awh shit! I missed the "Fall Guys timed exclusive kept of XB1" option.

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#5 Archangel3371
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Apparently just existing is enough to get some “gamers” in a right tizzy. 🤣🤣🤣

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#6 Zidaneski
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Cancelling scalebound. I was eager to see that game turn out well.

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Beautiful

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#8 BenjaminBanklin
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Discontinuing X1X after 2 and a half years

Reneging on VR

Dropping the Kinect after saying Xbox wouldn't work without it

Far too many high profile titles ending up with 60 scores

Faulty Elite controllers

Phil port begging for Japanese games years later

Ruining the Tomb Raider brand

No longer allowing included game codes to be sold or given away

Devaluing your console's value with constant fire sales

Openly jealous of Sony's marketing deals

"This E3 is going to be Xbox's greatest ever" x6

Promoting God of War on Mixer

Buying Twitch Steamers for Mixer

Closing Mixer

Promoting UHD discs over video games

No longer reporting sales

Boasting metrics no one cares about

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#9 rzxv04
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Online DRM + a dig on used games + cancellations + weak 1st party output.

I hope MS does better this time around and I think they will.

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#11 me2002
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Sea of Thieves

Crackdown 3

Ryse

State of Decay 2

Recore

Super Lucky's Tale

Quantum Break

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#12 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Discontinuing X1X after 2 and a half years

Reneging on VR

Dropping the Kinect after saying Xbox wouldn't work without it

Far too many high profile titles ending up with 60 scores

Faulty Elite controllers

Phil port begging for Japanese games years later

Ruining the Tomb Raider brand

No longer allowing included game codes to be sold or given away

Devaluing your console's value with constant fire sales

Openly jealous of Sony's marketing deals

"This E3 is going to be Xbox's greatest ever" x6

Promoting God of War on Mixer

Buying Twitch Steamers for Mixer

Closing Mixer

Promoting UHD discs over video games

No longer reporting sales

Boasting metrics no one cares about

wow dude thx I forgot some of that stuff

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#13 Ottyandthedj
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Hey, I went with the reason being closing down Lionhead studios. Maybe it doesn't do a bad thing as often as the DLC stuff might do, Fable and Lionhead on Xbox pretty much sold well. To keep on topic here, I think the core analyzing Microsoft does on its console does something well for games in general.

One thing, potentially about Xbox game consoles that makes sense to me is who's marketing the games remains as someone new. Closing Lionhead probably won't be huge, but that extra familiarity along with the console can be an excellent resource while new consoles are coming out.

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#14 BassMan
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dat list
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#15 NathanDrakeSwag
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Having a pathological liar running their brand who spends more time slurping Sony and Nintendo than making sure his own studios can hit deadlines.

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#16  Edited By deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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I guess with @ProtossRushX: being owed in multiple consecutive threads means that we're going to get even more threads today. Good thing he's not a Lem otherwise he might end up banned.

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#17 SecretPolice
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Once again, you earned it....

:P

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#18 strategyfn
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My main one is RROD on 360.

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#19  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Zidaneski said:

Cancelling scalebound. I was eager to see that game turn out well.

So much this!

Cancelling Scalebound was the final nail in the coffin for the mighty Xbox One.

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#20 my_user_name
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I think they never fully recovered from the negative backlash of the E3 reveal of the XB1. Also they coasted for most of the second half of the 360's life span on Halo, Gears and Forza.... where as Sony did a good job of supporting the PS3 til PS4's launch, now Halo and Gears don't hold the same weight they once did.

Also alot of their big games have been flops or gotten off to rough starts ( cough Master Chief collection)

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#21 SecretPolice
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@davillain- said:
@Zidaneski said:

Cancelling scalebound. I was eager to see that game turn out well.

So much this!

Cancelling Scalebound was the final nail in the coffin for the mighty Xbox One.

Nah, be honest, the game was looking like a hot mess and most know it. :P

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#22 BenjaminBanklin
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@SecretPolice said:

Nah, be honest, the game was looking like a hot mess and most know it. :P

Really? Why is this the Xbot go to when they damage control this game being cancelled. What, about this game looked less appealing than Crackdown 3, for example?

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#23 SecretPolice
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@SecretPolice said:

Nah, be honest, the game was looking like a hot mess and most know it. :P

Really? Why is this the Xbot go to when they damage control this game being cancelled. What, about this game looked less appealing than Crackdown 3, for example?

Just go review all the negative comments about the game on it's last showing. Oh wait, I'm certain many of those comments came from you. lol :P

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Lol love it OP

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#25 Star67
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It's the games, you can only rely on Halo, Gears, and Forza for so long

And the new offerings this gen have been really average at best, Like Sea of Thieves, I mean I understand Sea of Thieves is a better game now, but first impressions are everything, and being bad at launch can damage the game immensely. Which is probably why MS delayed Halo Infinite.

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#27 enzyme36
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Honestly I really started appreciating Microsoft a lot more this gen. Once you grow up a lil and stop worrying about brand hardware sales... you realize they have a lot to offer gamers across the spectrum. Bringing their games and service to most platforms is a pro consumer move and really should be celebrated. Hopefully Nintendo and Sony will follow suit or offer something similar.

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#28 LouiXIII
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Crackdown 3 and...Battletoads

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They have done good things clearing up the mess after launch and put themselves in a better position but we won't see the effects with games for at least 2 years. They will always be behind the black ball until the 1st party produce bangers.

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@SecretPolice: I guess for me, it was a brand new IP game I never seen anything like it at the time when MS was trying to hype it. "How to Train your Dragon" is what I wanted the most😥

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#31 Macutchi
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i don't think they'll ever live down the whole batman exclusive content debacle

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#32 Phlop_Spencer
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Discontinuing X1X after 2 and a half years

Reneging on VR

Dropping the Kinect after saying Xbox wouldn't work without it

Far too many high profile titles ending up with 60 scores

Faulty Elite controllers

Phil port begging for Japanese games years later

Ruining the Tomb Raider brand

No longer allowing included game codes to be sold or given away

Devaluing your console's value with constant fire sales

Openly jealous of Sony's marketing deals

"This E3 is going to be Xbox's greatest ever" x6

Promoting God of War on Mixer

Buying Twitch Steamers for Mixer

Closing Mixer

Promoting UHD discs over video games

No longer reporting sales

Boasting metrics no one cares about

/thread

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#33 dimebag667
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@ProtossRushX: can the pole be made in a way that only allows us to pick 3-5 things, instead of everything?

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#34 clone01
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@phbz said:

I guess with @ProtossRushX: being owed in multiple consecutive threads means that we're going to get even more threads today. Good thing he's not a Lem otherwise he might end up banned.

lol, he and Banklin.

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#35 clone01
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A lot of you sure love the Xbox. It's all you talk about.

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#36 Pedro
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@Telekill said:

Dude... how long did it take you to make this troll thread?

This is what he does for a living.

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#37 R4gn4r0k
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@SOedipus said:

Awh shit! I missed the "Fall Guys timed exclusive kept of XB1" option.

Same here.

TC do you mind making the poll again?

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#38 SecretPolice
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@davillain- said:

@SecretPolice: I guess for me, it was a brand new IP game I never seen anything like it at the time when MS was trying to hype it. "How to Train your Dragon" is what I wanted the most😥

Oh absolutely. Same here, How to Train your Dragon, was what had me pumped and on paper ScaleBound sounded awesome but like I said, every showing the game looked to be circling the drain and it was best for MS just to pull the plug.

My understanding is MS owns the Scalebound IP so maybe one of their new devs may get a shot at making the game.

Hope so. :D