What if Cows were as focused on Blue Dragon's EGM score?

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#1 ISA_Scum
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Notice how all the "flop talk" based on an UNOFFICIAL and UNPUBLISHED and UNRECOGNIZED review is all about Lair. We COULD talk about how Blue Dragon is an EGM flop, and there is some, but not even close to Lair.

I do remember Lair hyped AA, as well as Blue Dragon no? Both games outside of EGM's....supposed review, got good grades and praise (play and to a lesser extent gamepro for Lair).

I mean, with all the talk Lemmings have been spitting around here on System Wars about their awesome JRPG line-up, you'd think we Cows would just rip them a new one for the game flopping based on one review right?

The difference, Cows seem to know it's not all about ONE review. The PS fanboys have been fairly defensive and for good reason. AT the end of the day, Lair is still going to end up AA and then what Lemmings? You gonna keep bring up the EGM rumor? You see, when Blue Dragon also ends up AA the cattle don't have to make themselves out to be hypocrites saying that GS's review doesn't count or something stupid like that.

This is just an observation for a day that's been full of hypocricy and over-anticipation by X-Bots to bash the first true Potential AAA, killer-app for the PS3. And it's sad. Give it a good week and a half and watch the Lemmings silence when Gamespot, IGN and so many others brand Lair AA. I guarantee this.

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#2 LinKuei_warrior
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was a post really needed?
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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|
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#4 ISA_Scum
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was a post really needed?LinKuei_warrior

I think it's a good summary of one of the more ridiculous days I've been a part of here at System Wars.

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#5 ISA_Scum
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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|souledge474

Thank you, posting this proves my point even more. I appreciate that.

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Notice how all the "flop talk" based on an UNOFFICIAL and UNPUBLISHED and UNRECOGNIZED review is all about Lair. We COULD talk about how Blue Dragon is an EGM flop, and there is some, but not even close to Lair.

I do remember Lair hyped AA, as well as Blue Dragon no? Both games outside of EGM's....supposed review, got good grades and praise (play and to a lesser extent gamepro for Lair).

I mean, with all the talk Lemmings have been spitting around here on System Wars about their awesome JRPG line-up, you'd think we Cows would just rip them a new one for the game flopping based on one review right?

The difference, Cows seem to know it's not all about ONE review. The PS fanboys have been fairly defensive and for good reason. AT the end of the day, Lair is still going to end up AA and then what Lemmings? You gonna keep bring up the EGM rumor? You see, when Blue Dragon also ends up AA the cattle don't have to make themselves out to be hypocrites saying that GS's review doesn't count or something stupid like that.

This is just an observation for a day that's been full of hypocricy and over-anticipation by X-Bots to bash the first true Potential AAA, killer-app for the PS3. And it's sad. Give it a good week and a half and watch the Lemmings silence when Gamespot, IGN and so many others brand Lair AA. I guarantee this.

ISA_Scum

Thank you for saying this, I have seen so many threads since yesterday about the floppage of Lair and what the next one would be.

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Notice how all the "flop talk" based on an UNOFFICIAL and UNPUBLISHED and UNRECOGNIZED review is all about Lair. We COULD talk about how Blue Dragon is an EGM flop, and there is some, but not even close to Lair.

I do remember Lair hyped AA, as well as Blue Dragon no? Both games outside of EGM's....supposed review, got good grades and praise (play and to a lesser extent gamepro for Lair).

I mean, with all the talk Lemmings have been spitting around here on System Wars about their awesome JRPG line-up, you'd think we Cows would just rip them a new one for the game flopping based on one review right?

The difference, Cows seem to know it's not all about ONE review. The PS fanboys have been fairly defensive and for good reason. AT the end of the day, Lair is still going to end up AA and then what Lemmings? You gonna keep bring up the EGM rumor? You see, when Blue Dragon also ends up AA the cattle don't have to make themselves out to be hypocrites saying that GS's review doesn't count or something stupid like that.

This is just an observation for a day that's been full of hypocricy and over-anticipation by X-Bots to bash the first true Potential AAA, killer-app for the PS3. And it's sad. Give it a good week and a half and watch the Lemmings silence when Gamespot, IGN and so many others brand Lair AA. I guarantee this.

ISA_Scum

lol i dont know if anyone pointed this out yet but u contradicted urself...You say we jump on lair because were afraid of its potential AAA status...then go on to say were gonna eat crow when its made AA...lol i kno if its AA its not a flop just thought it was funny how ur soo supportive of lair and u dont even think its a killer app AAA title and yet you call it the first true potential AAA titles (then why not be a man and hype it AAA if u think its that good)

and also...Resistance and Motorstorm were told to be AAA so its not the first

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[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|ISA_Scum

Thank you, posting this proves my point even more. I appreciate that.

So your comparing blue dragon with lair?

Lair got 1 good review and 2 bad reviews.

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#9 0starter0
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I didn't like the Blue Dragon Demo. :(

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So buy calling blue dragon a flop you did the same thing? Even though I agree about this stupid egm review.
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#11 munu9
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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|souledge474

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=lair nice early non-gamespot reviews FTW :|

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#12 munu9
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[QUOTE="ISA_Scum"]

[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|ProductNumber49

Thank you, posting this proves my point even more. I appreciate that.

So your comparing blue dragon with lair?

Lair got 1 good review and 2 bad reviews.

I think you proved his point again. 3 freaking reviews. And it still has 2 weeks to come out...

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Notice how all the "flop talk" based on an UNOFFICIAL and UNPUBLISHED and UNRECOGNIZED review is all about Lair. We COULD talk about how Blue Dragon is an EGM flop, and there is some, but not even close to Lair.

I do remember Lair hyped AA, as well as Blue Dragon no? Both games outside of EGM's....supposed review, got good grades and praise (play and to a lesser extent gamepro for Lair).

I mean, with all the talk Lemmings have been spitting around here on System Wars about their awesome JRPG line-up, you'd think we Cows would just rip them a new one for the game flopping based on one review right?

The difference, Cows seem to know it's not all about ONE review. The PS fanboys have been fairly defensive and for good reason. AT the end of the day, Lair is still going to end up AA and then what Lemmings? You gonna keep bring up the EGM rumor? You see, when Blue Dragon also ends up AA the cattle don't have to make themselves out to be hypocrites saying that GS's review doesn't count or something stupid like that.

This is just an observation for a day that's been full of hypocricy and over-anticipation by X-Bots to bash the first true Potential AAA, killer-app for the PS3. And it's sad. Give it a good week and a half and watch the Lemmings silence when Gamespot, IGN and so many others brand Lair AA. I guarantee this.

ISA_Scum

Dude it is sooo the other way around...in teh last 2 days I seen lemmings post 3 threads about lair flopping with EGm review while I see cows post a thread about blue dragon flopping EVERY HOUR!!!

So basically they are both wrong but cows are just as bad as lemmings actually GS scores should only matter and neither game should be said it flopped or not until we get the GS reviews

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#14 0starter0
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Lair is going to be a A on gamerankings.

Blue Dragon is going to be a AA on gamerankings.

/thread

(I am too afraid to even guess what they'll get on GS)

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#15 Dilrod
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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|souledge474

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=lair

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#16 ProductNumber49
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I think you proved his point again. 3 freaking reviews. And it still has 2 weeks to come out...

munu9

*head explodes*

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#17 killaj2786
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btw:

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=25809705

it's been on the first page all day...and i havent see a lair one yet.

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#18 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="LinKuei_warrior"]was a post really needed?ISA_Scum

I think it's a good summary of one of the more ridiculous days I've been a part of here at System Wars.

Don't worry man, once you get as many posts as I have this will seem like a minor nuisance compared to the stuff that's been going on throughout the years:P

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[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|munu9

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=lair nice early non-gamespot reviews FTW :|

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|

6 reviews to 1 review.....:|

6>1 :|

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#20 ISA_Scum
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[QUOTE="ISA_Scum"]

[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|ProductNumber49

Thank you, posting this proves my point even more. I appreciate that.

So your comparing blue dragon with lair?

Lair got 1 good review and 2 bad reviews.

What's the second bad review? a 3.75/5.00 from Gamepro that is admitted to not be based upon a final build? Give me a break.

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Well, we'll just have to see what GameSpot's score is before ownage commences.
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#22 ironcreed
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You bring up an interesting point. Have any PS3 supporters been trashing Blue Dragon at all? No, all we have seen is Lair being torn to pieces, and the game is not even out yet, lol. It has had far more good press than it has recieved negative. The 1 bad review comes from a source that everybody knows usually rates their games far out in left field compared to most reviewers. Usually because they judged the game too harshly for stupid reasons such as motion controls.

What EGM obviously did not take into consideration is that not everyone is going to hate the controls for LAIR, as is evidenced in plenty of other press releases of the game, which are overly positive. Yet from what we know of their review, they seem to mainly base their low scores on the fact that they did not like the motion controls. It is new, and they felt uncomfortable with it, therefore, they probably did not even try to get into the immersiveness of leaning and swaying as you fly your dragon that the motion controls were intended to provide. They were too busy wishing they had analog stick controls, instead of grading the game for what it is.

It is funny that nearly everyone else who has played Lair thus far has seemed to have really gotten that "WOW" sensation from the motion controls for flying, but EGM are the only ones thus far who have had a problem with it. You know what that tells me? It tells me that they must have just SUCKED at Lair, therefore, they did not give the game a fair shake because they could not master the controls. Now if everyone else was saying that the controls sucked, it would seem unanimous, but that is not the case now is it, folks? Draw your own conclusions.

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[QUOTE="ISA_Scum"]

[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|ProductNumber49

Thank you, posting this proves my point even more. I appreciate that.

So your comparing blue dragon with lair?

Lair got 1 good review and 2 bad reviews.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=lair

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[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"][QUOTE="ISA_Scum"]

[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|messiah1

Thank you, posting this proves my point even more. I appreciate that.

So your comparing blue dragon with lair?

Lair got 1 good review and 2 bad reviews.

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=lair

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp

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http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|souledge474

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=Lair:|

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So buy calling blue dragon a flop you did the same thing? Even though I agree about this stupid egm review.H3llstrike
He never said it was a flop, he just said that if Lair is a flop based on one unsubstantiated rumor than blue dragon could be considered one as well.
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Didn't you know? Only cows can get owned on system wars.
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#29 cjnwo4life
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We here only pay attention to gamespot. Not EGM, not ign. If you want that then join them and get on their boards and stay there. Neither game has not been reveiwed yet by the people that matter most. I will wait, as we all should, for gamespot to review the games.
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I still doubt Lair will be AA.
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#31 Hoffgod
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Notice how all the "flop talk" based on an UNOFFICIAL and UNPUBLISHED and UNRECOGNIZED review is all about Lair.ISA_Scum
:| The score from EGM is official. It's real. Both the Lair and Blue Dragon ones are official EGM scores. Michael Donahoe of EGM confirmed it on the 1up boards. Just thought I'd point that out.
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The blue dragon demo sucked and the egm score was low soI will not buy this 3 disc 60 buck weed plate cheers.
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[QUOTE="souledge474"]http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/927950.asp :|Haseokicksass

http://www.gamerankings.com/htmlpages2/929230.asp?q=Lair:|

6>1 :|

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#34 jazreal
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so blah blah he said she said maybe, maybe not who knows blah blah blah.....bl a h ......b...l....a....h and in other news: according to current, and i said "CURRENT" reviews of all the major(the ones that matter) publications....BLUE DRAGON IS KICKING THE CRUDOLA OUT OF LAIR :P
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#35 hellsing321
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Or cows could focus on how Persona 3 got GOTM at EGM and 8.5 here at GC and numerous other AAA reviews at other sources. Jesus what is it going to take to get people to notice this game?