Was the Xbox Series S a mistake by Microsoft in your opinion?

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Poll Was the Xbox Series S a mistake by Microsoft in your opinion? (83 votes)

Yes 31%
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I see this thing getting discounted all the time. 2 years later, and it already feels like a last gen device. I think we’re entering a phase where games will be made for the next gen systems from scratch and a device like this is going to be severely lacking. Graphics wise, and plus, the 512gb memory is inadequate. I think MS should’ve focused more on showcasing the XSX. It’s clear that gamers want the latest and greatest graphics for their games. There will be less and less people that want an XSS, but since MS made a promise to support it, their first party games will be held back to support a lower tiered system.

What do you think, SW? Was the Xbox Series S a mistake by Microsoft in your opinion? I think so.

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#1  Edited By Lavamelon
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The main issue is that nobody wants 512gb in 2022. If Microsoft bumps it up a bit, then sales will climb. Plus there Series S is still competing against PS4, so once PS4 is discontinued, that will also help the S. And then there is a possibility that people want Blu-ray drive, so if Microsoft makes an S with Blu-ray, that can help too. Either way, the S is good for people who don’t care about having the best graphics.

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#2 Howmakewood
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considering its the only new console that isnt massively supply constrained? sounds like it was a brilliant move

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#3 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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Obviously not, the sales are massively in its favour. MS knew what they were doing considering the component shortages and increased price. They will be laughing all the way to the bank with people unable to afford anything else.

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#4 SolidGame_basic
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@Random_Matt: if it’s doing so well, then why is it always discounted?

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#5 sealionact
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There’s massive amounts of people like hardwenzen who don’t have a big 4K screen to play on, and for gamers the xss bundled with Gamepass ultimate and sold as Xbox all access is a brilliant idea.

Not sure how anything that sells in the 10s of millions is a mistake in the normal world.

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#6 simple-facts
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Discounts a bad thing now?🤣

The series s has more 120 FPS games than the ps5 and can't me matched at price by ANY gaming pc

Is there no end to the cow Dumb as f@#k threads 🤣

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@simple-facts said:

Discounts a bad thing now?🤣

The series s has more 120 FPS games than the ps5and can't me matched at price by ANY gaming pc

Is there no end to the cow Dumb as f@#k threads 🤣

I don’t think that’s true.

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#8 Nonstop-Madness
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No but, it wasn't some genius stoke of brilliance either. The S was / is always going to outsell the X.

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#9 simple-facts
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@goldenelementxl:

Simple facts

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#10 SecretPolice
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Short answer... No

Long answer... Noperzzz. lol :P

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#11 Lavamelon
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@sealionact: True, there’s plenty of people who don’t own 4K TVs and prefer to stick with the same 1080p TVs they are used to.

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#12 robert_sparkes
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It's not a mistake many people still use 1080p monitors. I do think ms will release an X with no disc drive very soon.

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@SolidGame_basic: The "mistake" is that Sony didn't release an "S" version of the PS5.

You cows... LMAO.

Please provide links of this great "XSS price discount".

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#15 SolidGame_basic
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@dabear said:

@SolidGame_basic: The "mistake" is that Sony didn't release an "S" version of the PS5.

You cows... LMAO.

Please provide links of this great "XSS price discount".

They didn’t need an S version silly, they already had the PS4 which sold 117 million, more than double the Xbox One 😎 The S was an attempt to try to get in on early next gen sales, and now MS is forced to support it. There are plenty of sales on the XSS. Just yesterday there was one: https://slickdeals.net/f/15984586-512gb-microsoft-xbox-series-s-fortnite-rocket-league-bundle-250-free-shipping?src=SiteSearch

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#16  Edited By Litchie
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I have no idea what Series S have sold, so I can't answer that question. I would either need sales numbers, or be an idiot fanboy. But my guess is that no, it wasn't a mistake.

@Random_Matt said:

Obviously not, the sales are massively in its favour.

Please share the sales numbers you have.

@lavamelon said:

The main issue is that nobody wants 512gb in 2022.

Switch is selling shitloads in 2022 with 32gb.

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#17 dabear
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@SolidGame_basic: Your opinion is contrary to what industry experts say. The XSS is not a "last gen" console.

Your entire argument is moot.

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#18 Chutebox  Online
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@howmakewood: Or is it just not selling?

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#19  Edited By Chutebox  Online
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@dabear: It's been ten bucks off at target for a while.

Free game comes with it too. But that sale finally ends after today.

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#20 Archangel3371  Online
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No. It seems like a very good and very affordable entry to current gen gaming to me.

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This is a pretty good deal, for you "value" conscience gamers

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#22  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@Random_Matt: if it’s doing so well, then why is it always discounted?

THAT'S the prime reason it was doing better. Because it was already getting a 50 dollar price cut. That thing was a slow starter once it hit shelves. MS has been doing nothing but burning cash with Xbox to keep up with Sony. It's hilarious

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#23  Edited By Pedro
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Series S continues to upset Sony fannies. It must be the success of a system that they thought would kill the Series systems.😎

PS: Thread backfired again.

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#24  Edited By dabear
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@dabear: It's been ten bucks off at target for a while.

Free game comes with it too. But that sale finally ends after today.

So, it's on sale. Oh, God, the horror. So, when there is a PS5 bundle of say... Horizon FW, Elden Ring, or Spider Man, for $550 - does that mean the PS5 is also "discounted"? You're saving $20. Or a bundle of a new PS5 and three $70 games for $599?

Just asking.

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#25 pillarrocks
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Besides the lack of storage, I like the Series S as it's small and even though it feels like a last gen system, I don't see the problem. If Microsoft just had the Series X, I would still be using my Xbox One.

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#26 dabear
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@SolidGame_basic said:

@Random_Matt: if it’s doing so well, then why is it always discounted?

THAT'S the prime reason it was doing better. Because it was already getting a 50 dollar price cut. That thing was a slow starter once it hit shelves. MS has been doing nothing but burning cash with Xbox to keep up with Sony. It's hilarious

You're fanboy misguidance is what is hilarious.

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People who obsess over tech specs spend all of their time worrying about nonsense. I have never bought a game console and worried about resolution, frame rate, etc. Just buy the thing and enjoy what you can play on it.

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#28 BenjaminBanklin
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@dabear said:

You're fanboy misguidance is what is hilarious.

Hear that, everybody? dabear is not a fanboy 🙄

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#29 pillarrocks
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@sealionact:

I been gaming on a HDTV 1080p for like 15 years and just made the switch to 4K.

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#30 SolidGame_basic
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@BenjaminBanklin: 🤣

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#31 iambatman7986
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No. It does what it is supposed to do. It plays scaled down versions of Series X games. Some people do not care about the 4k hype and are good with 1080p or 1440p.

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#32 kuu2
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Another Cow Circle Jerk thread.

The most insecure faction on SW.

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#33 Pedro
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@kuu2 said:

Another Cow Circle Jerk thread.

The most insecure faction on SW.

That is very true. They play PS in a perpetual state of

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#34 ZeroTheHero
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Bro it was a huge letdown all of systems wars hates it cept for the 2 newbs who got them on here.

Its weak its trash compared to PC's its garbage compared to xbox one x its trash vs ps5 and series x

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#35 Heil68
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I haven't looked, but are you able to add external storage to the Series S? If so, the disk space available ton drive wouldn't matter.

And to be fair, I could survive on 512mb and just install/uninstall games as I go. Especially with the ability to download and install while in sleep mode.

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#36 SolidGame_basic
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@Heil68 said:

I haven't looked, but are you able to add external storage to the Series S? If so, the disk space available ton drive wouldn't matter.

And to be fair, I could survive on 512mb and just install/uninstall games as I go. Especially with the ability to download and install while in sleep mode.

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/accessories/hard-drives/seagate-expansion-card It's expensive, might as well get the X.

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@lavamelon said:

The main issue is that nobody wants 512gb in 2022. If Microsoft bumps it up a bit, then sales will climb. Plus there Series S is still competing against PS4, so once PS4 is discontinued, that will also help the S. And then there is a possibility that people want Blu-ray drive, so if Microsoft makes an S with Blu-ray, that can help too. Either way, the S is good for people who don’t care about having the best graphics.

So basically you want a Series X for the price and name of the Series S

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#38 pillarrocks
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@Heil68:

My nephew uses a 2TB external though you can buy the 1TB Seagate SD Expansion for $250. I did that though just have like two games and use the rest of space for updates.

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#39 SargentD
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Very good decision to have this as a "gamer on a budget" option.

MS made a good decision.

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#40 adsparky
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I think it is a great idea for those that only play a few games.

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#41  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@iambatman7986 said:

No. It does what it is supposed to do. It plays scaled down versions of Series X games. Some people do not care about the 4k hype and are good with 1080p or 1440p.

Well I hope they’re good with 512p-720p too, cuz those resolutions are becoming more of a norm than an outlier. As is 30fps with 60+fps options not even being available. There are many PS4 Pro and Xbox One X games running at a higher resolution than the Series s. (with some graphical feature missing of course)

inb4 the Series SX

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#42 KathaarianCode
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Having a best seller is a huge problem.

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#43 Fedor
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It's a nice option for the casual gaming crowd.

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#44 Pedro
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@goldenelementxl said:
@iambatman7986 said:

No. It does what it is supposed to do. It plays scaled down versions of Series X games. Some people do not care about the 4k hype and are good with 1080p or 1440p.

Well I hope they’re good with 512p-720p too, cuz those resolutions are becoming more of a norm than an outlier. As is 30fps with 60+fps options not even being available. There are many PS4 Pro and Xbox One X games running at a higher resolution than the Series s. (with some graphical feature missing of course)

inb4 the Series SX

What is the ratio of games running at 512p-720p on Series S to that of 1080p and above?

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#45  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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@Pedro: Oh, let me be clear. There are more 1080p games than sub 1080p games. There’s maybe more 720p games than 1440p games though.

When I said 512-720 was becoming more of a norm than outlier, I didn’t mean most of the games were running that way. I meant it was becoming more frequent than before. We are just seeing more games dip below 1080p as time the gen goes by. Something a certain faction told us not to worry about

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#46 pmanden
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No. The series S is a success. It is aimed mainly at the casual gamer who doesn't need lots of teraflops, raytracing etc. Personally, I strongly prefer the much more powerful series X, as I am an avid gamer, but that doesn't make the S a flop.

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#47 Lavamelon
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@mysticaldonut: Not really. When the price of SSDs goes down, the S will be 1TB and the X will be 2TB (without increasing console price). So there will still be differences between them.

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#48 SolidGame_basic
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@kathaariancode: usually when something sells really well, it doesn’t go on sale all the time

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#49 KathaarianCode
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@SolidGame_basic: Maybe that's why it's selling really well.

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#50 HalcyonScarlet
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Two years in and vast majority of games released from 3rd and 1st party are last gen games.

Not only is the Series S not a mistake, I'd say it is justified. What is the Series X and PS5 doing? YAY, last gen games in 1440p and 4K. "WOW, because we didn't have that with the PS4 Pro and the Xbox One X".