Far from being photo realistic and not that I want my games to look like one. But it does look fantastic.
Using full detail was taking a lot of space so they lowered it a little bit because they said that "World is not ready for 1 Terra bytes of games" but it still looks awesome . The game is still in development , so lightening effects here are just place holder and will be improved in the final build . Textures on other hand are looking insane .
Thanks for trashing the thread kinectthedots. Jerkoff. Cant just appreciate whats being shown here?
Lol, the way you talk, you'd think I'd have said something bad about the game or something. I was just yanking hermit's chain with their, "that's why I am a PC gamer" nonsense.
Despite you thinking I am a "jerkoff" everything I stated was built on a solid foundation of facts and logic. Hermits are the ones who went apeshit because they couldn't deal with it, I just defended my original point, with was never actually deflected with any of the counter arguments.
Check the last response to my messages. I left the hermit who replied, desperately constructing an argument to an issue I wasn't even debating (PC being able to produce better graphics than consoles), alone and let his post stand.
like most fanboys, hermits say they the didn't hype and say things after the fact when their predictions failed. I pointed out that hermits said Crysis, The Witcher 2 and Metro were not possible on consoles and they reply with, "no one in the thread is saying that",
I was pointing out that the arguments had been made.
My point here is that right in this thread hermits are saying current consoles couldn't do this game. I do appreciate what is shown here though I am not blown away. PC's probably could have already done a game like this a long time ago but with a new generation everyone has updated tech so a game like this is more plausible, that includes a range that adaptable on consoles i.e. PS4.
I don't hype games without gameplay though so what's being shown here means little to nothing to me right now, but it does look nice.
. Many "PC counterparts" fall short of the console version of mutiplatform games now. There is no standard setting for PC which is part of what makes PC great, but at the same time it is also part of what holds it back.
@kinectthedots said:
@crimsonxx said:
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
1. Most multiplats are best on PC. There are very very few that are better on consoles. You're straight up lying on the first quote. Even GS says its "90%"
2. Last gen, and this gen, PC has more aaa+aa exclusives than all 3 systems combined. This spans several genres. The second quote was factually untrue and a lie.
@kinectthedots: And then you go and type paragraphs.. your a jerkoff troll who shit in a perfectly trolless thread that was about the tech. But, no you had to add in your complete bullshit. Thanks now its just another crap, fanboy thread.
. Many "PC counterparts" fall short of the console version of mutiplatform games now. There is no standard setting for PC which is part of what makes PC great, but at the same time it is also part of what holds it back.
@kinectthedots said:
@crimsonxx said:
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
1. Most multiplats are best on PC. There are very very few that are better on consoles. You're straight up lying on the first quote. Even GS says its "90%"
2. Last gen, and this gen, PC has more aaa+aa exclusives than all 3 systems combined. This spans several genres. The second quote was factually untrue and a lie.
1. PC isn't a standardized platform that fact alone kills your entire first point.
This is Crysis 3 on PC @ 720p, low detail, medium textures lol...where is the "PC standard" even at this low requirement?
It looks like a bunch of different settings for a bunch of different PC set ups to me, nothing standard about it. LOL herm smashed and point proven, next.
2. Most big exclusives PC games that hermits claimed as impossible on console, (Crysis, Far Cry, Witcher 2, Metro) that were not RTS or MMO strategy and turned out good, ended up on consoles.
FACT. Those were the games hermits bragged about last gen because consolites didn't care about the RTS and such. You bringing up all the AAA+AA titles means nothing because hermits never hyped them since we all know the majority of those were small indie games that didn't support the hermit argument for their powerful PCs.
Sorry if these facts hurt your feeling but I am afraid you are going to have to..
. Many "PC counterparts" fall short of the console version of mutiplatform games now. There is no standard setting for PC which is part of what makes PC great, but at the same time it is also part of what holds it back.
@kinectthedots said:
@crimsonxx said:
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
1. Most multiplats are best on PC. There are very very few that are better on consoles. You're straight up lying on the first quote. Even GS says its "90%"
2. Last gen, and this gen, PC has more aaa+aa exclusives than all 3 systems combined. This spans several genres. The second quote was factually untrue and a lie.
1. PC isn't a standardized platform that fact alone kills your entire first point.
This is Crysis 3 on PC @ 720p, low detail, medium textures lol...where is the "PC standard" even at this low requirement?
It looks like a bunch of different settings for a bunch of different PC set ups to me, nothing standard about it. LOL herm smashed and point proven, next.
2. Most big exclusives PC games that hermits claimed as impossible on console, (Crysis, Far Cry, Witcher 2, Metro) that were not RTS or MMO strategy and turned out good, ended up on consoles.
FACT. Those were the games hermits bragged about last gen because consolites didn't care about the RTS and such. You bringing up all the AAA+AA titles means nothing because hermits never hyped them since we all know the majority of those were small indie games that didn't support the hermit argument for their powerful PCs.
Sorry if these facts hurt your feeling but I am afraid you are going to have to..
Sony's client platforms are Vita, PS3 and PS4.
Microsoft's Windows X86 client platform scales from 8 inch tablets to high-end gaming PCs.
Like PS4, AMD is selling most of their R9-2xx class GPUs.
lol benchmarks? How many people play Crysis 3 on those setting with those set ups?
Metro was never a pc exclusive and lol Far Cry you realize the one on console was made by a complete different developer and was not like the one on PC it was in fact inferior .
lol benchmarks? How many people play Crysis 3 on those setting with those set ups?
Metro was never a pc exclusive and lol Far Cry you realize the one on console was made by a complete different developer and it wasn't the same as the one PC.
. Many "PC counterparts" fall short of the console version of mutiplatform games now. There is no standard setting for PC which is part of what makes PC great, but at the same time it is also part of what holds it back.
@kinectthedots said:
@crimsonxx said:
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
1. Most multiplats are best on PC. There are very very few that are better on consoles. You're straight up lying on the first quote. Even GS says its "90%"
2. Last gen, and this gen, PC has more aaa+aa exclusives than all 3 systems combined. This spans several genres. The second quote was factually untrue and a lie.
A bunch of Bullshit
You didn't refute my 2 factual points. Please stop going off-topic.
. Many "PC counterparts" fall short of the console version of mutiplatform games now. There is no standard setting for PC which is part of what makes PC great, but at the same time it is also part of what holds it back.
@kinectthedots said:
@crimsonxx said:
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
1. Most multiplats are best on PC. There are very very few that are better on consoles. You're straight up lying on the first quote. Even GS says its "90%"
2. Last gen, and this gen, PC has more aaa+aa exclusives than all 3 systems combined. This spans several genres. The second quote was factually untrue and a lie.
A bunch of Bullshit
You didn't refute my 2 factual points. Please stop going off-topic.
If our standard of comparison for PC games was "the console version," the PC version would get a higher score than the others over 90% of the time -GS
Everything you guys have said is redundant and or not addressing the original points I brought up. I destroyed your points. It's obvious you are in no no no fanboy mode and will keep going forever no matter what.
No one cares about your data,using indie games which has nothing to do with my argument, damage control in full force here. You need to either re-read the original post to grasp an understanding of what is being discusses here or butt out all together because you are the one who is off-topic here bringing up that chart as some kind of point.
Let me make it easier for you so you can stop running into a wall here. I am talking about graphically impressive games that were hyped by hermits as only possible on PC that were not not RTS or MMO strategy, which actually turned out to be good games. Games that actually got hype threads and vocal hype from hermits about graphics ect.
I guess it is common for hermit to ramble in incoherent and redundant patterns over and over since they are not used to actually accounting for the failed arguments they have made in the past.
You can argue against what I say all day but the previous hermit claims of Crysis, Witcher 2 ect, "not possible on consoles" failed despite all the technical ramblings of PC know-it-all's from people like you and other PC fanboys.
You sensitive hermits took my post to heart despite me not saying that the game would be bad or that it would be better than what a high end PC could do. All factors point to almost any good traditional game that hits PC, eventually coming to consoles this generation. Look at what happened to Crysis, The Witcher 2 and Diablo III last gen. Absolutely nothing is outrageous about my observation.
The fact that crysis 3 (currently the most demanding PC game available) is on PS3 and xbox360 and runs quite well, no one should even question the possibility of PS4 running any PC game in the foreseeable future. Knowing what last gen consoles were able to accomplish with 8 year old hardware, very fact that some hermits are suggesting that PS4 couldn't run a band new PC game for this generation is hilarious.
It will be fun to visit this thread in a year or two to have a good laugh and see how it all panned out.
. Many "PC counterparts" fall short of the console version of mutiplatform games now. There is no standard setting for PC which is part of what makes PC great, but at the same time it is also part of what holds it back.
@kinectthedots said:
@crimsonxx said:
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
1. Most multiplats are best on PC. There are very very few that are better on consoles. You're straight up lying on the first quote. Even GS says its "90%"
2. Last gen, and this gen, PC has more aaa+aa exclusives than all 3 systems combined. This spans several genres. The second quote was factually untrue and a lie.
A bunch of Bullshit
You didn't refute my 2 factual points. Please stop going off-topic.
Thanks for trashing the thread kinectthedots. Jerkoff. Cant just appreciate whats being shown here?
Lol, the way you talk, you'd think I'd have said something bad about the game or something. I was just yanking hermit's chain with their, "that's why I am a PC gamer" nonsense.
Despite you thinking I am a "jerkoff" everything I stated was built on a solid foundation of facts and logic. Hermits are the ones who went apeshit because they couldn't deal with it, I just defended my original point, with was never actually deflected with any of the counter arguments.
Check the last response to my messages. I left the hermit who replied, desperately constructing an argument to an issue I wasn't even debating (PC being able to produce better graphics than consoles), alone and let his post stand.
like most fanboys, hermits say they the didn't hype and say things after the fact when their predictions failed. I pointed out that hermits said Crysis, The Witcher 2 and Metro were not possible on consoles and they reply with, "no one in the thread is saying that",
I was pointing out that the arguments had been made.
My point here is that right in this thread hermits are saying current consoles couldn't do this game. I do appreciate what is shown here though I am not blown away. PC's probably could have already done a game like this a long time ago but with a new generation everyone has updated tech so a game like this is more plausible, that includes a range that adaptable on consoles i.e. PS4.
I don't hype games without gameplay though so what's being shown here means little to nothing to me right now, but it does look nice.
They re-wrote the entire engine for Witcher 2 to make it possible to run on xbox 360 . The game looks like Minecraft on xbox when compared with PC . Worse than lowest settings possible on PC . And it is not even 720p .
@bloodytides: Yea, its pretty easy with zbrush, modo, or mari. You just have to make sure the pictures have even lighting for tiling and are high enough resolution.
Well unfortunately not Zbrush as it has no 'physical' camera for projection. Zbrush is good for cleaning up the results and bringing out lost details for normals/displacement though.
Max and Modo are excellent for this though and I'm sure Mari is probably up to snuff. Here in the next couple of months a friend and I will be doing a Zbrush Workshops class on this. He'll be showing how to get bad ass scans with a cheap camera and I'll be doing the remesh/cleanup part. We'll most likely be doing a Modo/Zbrush workflow after a quick run down on Agisoft.
First block will be doing a head, then some large environment pieces. Definitely keep an eye out for it, it's gonna be some cool stuff! :)
And implying your puny console could handle this on even 30fps 720p....
This is an asset creation technique, meant to be accurate while saving time. It looks impressive because it accounts for natural details that even the greatest 3d artist could not accomplish from scratch. VFX studios for TV and film have been doing this for years, but now it's affordable and we'll be seeing this in plenty of games across all kinds of platforms in the coming years.
A well built PC will always outperform a console of course, but that's not the point of this. These assets look great not because they're pushing some crazy specs, but because they weren't crafted from scratch by a 3d artist on a stiff deadline. Assets like this could (and will) be on consoles and they won't be anymore taxing on the hardware than assets built from scratch.
Ever since the start of last gen, digital sculpting became an integral part of many studios modeling/texturing pipelines. It was great because you could sculpt in millions of polygons worth of detail and then bake those details into a real time mesh. This is the exact same concept except now we're pulling those details directly from nature.
Sony is already investing big in these techniques for their first party btw.
I played many games but few manage to even come close to that level of photo realism this is absolutely incredible. Glad I stuck to pc gaming =)
lol, if the game is any good it will be on PS4. No need for a PC to play this. Any good game that PC gets that's not RTS or MMO strategy will be on consoles this gen, or at least PS4.
Herms need to accept this fact and stop kidding themselves. lol at the, that's why I game on PC comments when most of what hermits use their PC for is to mod multiplatform games.
I can name 10 PC games that are amazing that aren't on PS4 off the top of my head. And implying your puny console could handle this on even 30fps 720p.... You guys get like 10 exclusives a year. We get a few hundred. What consoles have to accept is that they're inferior. lol
lol, sticks and stones brother.
Ahh I have found memories of hemits claiming this same thing on games like Crysis, The Witcher 2 and Metro last gen. Isn't it funny how all those, too impossible for console, PC monsters ended up working quite well on those 8 year old systems when it was all said and done?
lol at you silly herms thinking the PS4 couldn't handle this now.
Well, ok, but the PS4 better be able to make the game look just as good as the PC version or what's the point of releasing it for the PS4? The whole point of the way they made the graphics is to make it look as photo realistic as possible. If they have to make any sacrifices on the PS4 then they don't need to release it on the system. As for your other arguments about Crysis, yeah, the game runs fine on PS3 and 360, basically medium settings. However, I have the game on both PC and 360, and I can tell you right now that the PC version just trashes the console version bar none, and you didn't take into account mods. Mods cause the PC version to further leave the console version completely behind.
Another point is you do realize that we can adjust the settings on our PC games to run perfectly on our machines, right? This is why the PC version of a game will always blow the console version completely away...well, most of the time. I will give you this one. The devs need to properly optimize the game for the PC in order for it to take full advantage of the power of the PC. Bad ports like GTA4 and CoD Ghosts show that even a strong PC may not run the game really well if the game is rushed. That being said, the PC is the place to truly play games on if you are so concerned about graphics.
@bloodytides: Yea, its pretty easy with zbrush, modo, or mari. You just have to make sure the pictures have even lighting for tiling and are high enough resolution.
Well unfortunately not Zbrush as it has no 'physical' camera for projection. Zbrush is good for cleaning up the results and bringing out lost details for normals/displacement though.
Max and Modo are excellent for this though and I'm sure Mari is probably up to snuff. Here in the next couple of months a friend and I will be doing a Zbrush Workshops class on this. He'll be showing how to get bad ass scans with a cheap camera and I'll be doing the remesh/cleanup part. We'll most likely be doing a Modo/Zbrush workflow after a quick run down on Agisoft.
First block will be doing a head, then some large environment pieces. Definitely keep an eye out for it, it's gonna be some cool stuff! :)
Yea I hadn't actually looked into exactly how they did it, you can have the same results with zbrush with using different techniques, but is more time consuming. I do have to say I hate zbrush though there are too many specifics you need to know to use it and the UI is quite bad until you customize it along with many crashes. Modo, on the other hand is quite nice imo.
It does look VERY nice in those shots, but photorealism is boring. It's bland and flat looking. I much prefer something like Infamous where you have a lot of colours and lights around the place making the image pop more.
Look closer. Those screens look more like paintings than photo realism. But they still look very impressive. A game doesn't have to have photo realistic graphics to look impressive.
Look closer. Those screens look more like paintings than photo realism. But they still look very impressive. A game doesn't have to have photo realistic graphics to look impressive.
true that, but i'm also a geek who wants to see modern hardware and technology being pushed to the limits, and i love seeing more and more realistic graphics. that is also one of the reasons i'm a PC gamer, since PC is always in the forefront of that area. graphics don't make a game, obviously, but graphics can make a game better imo.
@TheFadeForever: God herms are so desperate. Your excited about stale asset pics? For all you know they could be prerendered backgrounds with no interactivity. Anybody could do those visuals if that's the case.
Yea asset that they said will be in the game they even showed the process on how they made them using what techniques I guess you didn't even read what I wrote or links posted go figure. Unless there proof that's nothing but baseless assumption stay butthurt.
@AM-Gamer said:
@TheFadeForever: God herms are so desperate. Your excited about stale asset pics? For all you know they could be prerendered backgrounds with no interactivity. Anybody could do those visuals if that's the case.
This is why I am a console game, I called this a long time ago. Hermits are delusional for sure thinking anything released that has potential to be good wont be on consoles of couldn't be made for them.
This is why I am a console game, I called this a long time ago. Hermits are delusional for sure thinking anything released that has potential to be good wont be on consoles of couldn't be made for them.
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