Ugh Oh - Pre-Emptive Damage Control for the Initiative Xbox Exclusive

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#1  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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https://www.altchar.com/game-news/the-initiatives-aaa-game-could-release-in-episodic-format-stories-set-in-the-same-universe-ad9Qn2Z5tVdv

"I don't think the internet is going to react very well to it. This is gonna be bad, a level of bad where people give up on Xbox Game Studios. Fanboys are gonna get really upset," he said in the podcast

This doesn’t sound like the Initiative’s AAAA game is going to be the blockbuster MS needs.. what does system wars think?

Edit: mods can you change title to Emptive* plz

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#2 BenjaminBanklin
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Episodic? Siiigh. Bethesda's gonna have to carry XGS completely, aren't they? The ink still hasn't dried on the buyout though RUN BETHESDA, RUN WHILE YOU CAN!

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#3 Juub1990
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Square-Enix is releasing FF VII, a beloved classic and full game, as an episodic one. It received critical acclaim and was one of the best-selling games of the year.

Why would a Sony fan bitch or care about this?

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#5  Edited By Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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Episodic is excellent depending at the release rate. When I was playing TLoU2 that though occurred to me, would rather have it in episodic form, one a week.

I'm sure other than hate boys nobody is going to care if it's episodic or not, if the game is great.

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#6  Edited By ProtossRushX
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@ghost_of_phobos said:

Episodic is excellent depending at the release rate. When I was playing TLoU2 that though occurred to me, would rather have it in episodic form, one a week.

I'm sure other than hate boys nobody is going to care if it's episodic or not, if the game is great.

@Juub1990 said:

Square-Enix is releasing FF VII, a beloved classic and full game, as an episodic one. It received critical acclaim and was one of the best-selling games of the year.

Why would a Sony fan bitch or care about this?

Are you nuts people do care about games being episodic its one of the reason ff7 didn't sell as good as the original game. People wanted a full fledged experience out of the box with a beginning middle and end.

Nobody asked for this crap. This is gonna hurt no matter how good the game is people don't like episodic. Thats just facts.

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#7 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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@ProtossRushX: seek medical help please. A support line at least.

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#8 Sushiglutton
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Episodic is a nice fit with Gamepass. But this is a pretty loose rumour...

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#9 Phlop_Spencer
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@Sushiglutton said:

Episodic is a nice fit with Gamepass. But this is a pretty loose rumour...

Agreed, I’m just the messenger

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#10 Archangel3371
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Releasing a game in an episodic format does not automatically make it bad. I’ll reserve my judgment until we actually get official information on it.

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#11  Edited By Phlop_Spencer
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@ProtossRushX said:

LMAO. Seems like this is setting up for another “most powerful console” fail. Perhaps if Phil Sphincter just shut his yapper for once - they wouldn’t be in this position

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@Juub1990 said:

Square-Enix is releasing FF VII, a beloved classic and full game, as an episodic one. It received critical acclaim and was one of the best-selling games of the year.

Why would a Sony fan bitch or care about this?

Simple. Its Xbox. 😂🤣 That's all they do.

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Episodic doesn't necessarily mean it'll be bad, but this is MS so LOL. It'll be bad.

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@ProtossRushX: are u high again?? FF7r sold 5 million+ In less than half a year, you honestly think the original game sold anything close to that?

https://www.google.dk/amp/s/www.eurogamer.net/amp/2020-08-07-final-fantasy-7-remake-hits-5m-sold

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#15  Edited By ProtossRushX
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@djoffer123 said:

@ProtossRushX: are u high again?? FF7r sold 5 million+ In less than half a year, you honestly think the original game sold anything close to that?

https://www.google.dk/amp/s/www.eurogamer.net/amp/2020-08-07-final-fantasy-7-remake-hits-5m-sold

Dude just stop ff7 sold over 13 million copies on ps1 thats not counting how much its sold on pc and all those other copies on ps3/ps4/psvita FF7R isn't even in the same ball park for sales and its cuz its episodic its costing tons of sales nobody should ever make episodic games.

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HAHAHAHAHA. Gamepass wasn't going to change how games are developed? First Crackfiend 3, then Bleeding Bordom, then Sea of Fail. Now episodic bull crap? Lmao.

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#17 Nonstop-Madness
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Gotta drip feed the episodes on Gamepass.

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A guy who leads an unofficial Xbox gamer community. Also, "Ed reiterated that this is just his opinion and prediction".

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#19 shellcase86
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Episodic releases aren't innately bad, they can be great. It really comes down to value and timing.

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#20 Phlop_Spencer
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@shellcase86: I think it’s more of a case of MS getting ahead of themselves with their AAAA bullshit. Hopefully it bites them in the ass

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#21 clone01
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"fanboys are gonna get really upset."

Apparently, they already have. Dat paper thin fanboy skin.

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#22 Sevenizz
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@Pedro: The ps5 is a shitty console and they know it. Being jealous of the other side is quite common.

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#23 PC_Rocks
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Well, you can have all the talent in the world but if you don't have good managers/leadres with clear direction you will end up with a failure. That has been an issue with Xbox for more than a decade. Money, talent, technology, studios or IPs aren't the problem.

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#24 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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Cancel culture bitches get all pre emotional.

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#25  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Episodic? Siiigh. Bethesda's gonna have to carry XGS completely, aren't they?

Their is betting on the wrong horse and betting on one running in the opposite direction.

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@Sevenizz said:

@Pedro: The ps5 is a shitty console and they know it. Being jealous of the other side is quite common.

That is an odd then to say when its performing better than the Series X in several multiplatform games.

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Episodic from Xbox and $ 50 DLC from PlayStation. True next gen experiences.

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A random guy's prediction/opinion, must be real lol.

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#29 SecretPolice
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@Pedro said:
@Sevenizz said:

@Pedro: The ps5 is a shitty console and they know it. Being jealous of the other side is quite common.

That is an odd then to say when its performing better than the Series X in several multiplatform games.

All I Herd was Mooooo.

Biggest cow on SW right here. ;o

lololol Couldn't help myself. :P

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#30 rmiller365
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If the parts themselves end up being sizable enough with enough content I don't see a problem. FF7 remake was long enough and had enough content to be considered a full fledged game. It was longer than other games that where 15-20 hours on it's own like Doom and Control, but people bitched and moaned on every forum about it's episodic split. I saw tons of Sony fans saying they wouldn't buy it because it was just one part.

I wouldn't doubt that MS would do this though. Episode format would be spread out over months and keep those gamepass subs from lapsing. It's a smart business move, just like canceling 1 year live subs to make gamepass more appealing.

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@rmiller365 said:

If the parts themselves end up being sizable enough with enough content I don't see a problem. FF7 remake was long enough and had enough content to be considered a full fledged game. It was longer than other games that where 15-20 hours on it's own like Doom and Control, but people bitched and moaned on every forum about it's episodic split. I saw tons of Sony fans saying they wouldn't buy it because it was just one part.

I wouldn't doubt that MS would do this though. Episode format would be spread out over months and keep those gamepass subs from lapsing. It's a smart business move, just like canceling 1 year live subs to make gamepass more appealing.

They didn't really cancel the 1 year XBL subs you just cant get them through the store on the console or on your computer. I still see many places selling the cards for 1 year (Costco, Walmart, etc)

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#32 sakaiXx  Online
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Whats that xbox exclusive game about time manipulation and have a 30mins tv episode at each chapter? That supposed to be episodic as well 😂😂

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#33 Pedro
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@SecretPolice said:

All I Herd was Mooooo.

Biggest cow on SW right here. ;o

lololol Couldn't help myself. :P

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I always thought game pass would lead to a paid-shareware model where you just have access to part of the game and have to buy the rest, like shareware.

So episodic and game pass, would they ever do it so some episodes don't come to game pass, or only get on game pass later after a period where people buy it?

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#35 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

I always thought game pass would lead to a paid-shareware model where you just have access to part of the game and have to buy the rest, like shareware.

So episodic and game pass, would they ever do it so some episodes don't come to game pass, or only get on game pass later after a period where people buy it?

You do know that Gamepass already had episodic games? Each episode is available on Gamepass when released. This makes your claim that you only will have access to part of the game objectively false.

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#36 Xabiss
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Nothing to see here folks, just another fanboy literally bitching about nothing. Good lord!

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#37 rmiller365
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@regnaston: I still see them at the store too. It's just the removal from the store front and leaving the remaining $10 a month, $25 three month passes is to entice consumers to gamepass. If someone just subs every month through the storefront, it's easier to justify $180 a year for GP Ultimate when it's a max of $120 just to play online.

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#38 GirlUSoCrazy
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@Pedro: No, it could be different in the future. We do know that with Game Pass MS is focused on onboarding and not profits in the short term. We also know DLC is not included with Game Pass so expansions with extra content such as additional chapters or episodes does presently have a path open for charging for that content.

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#39 R4gn4r0k
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@ProtossRushX said:

Still such an intimidating sight.

Even Sony fanboys are horrified by the upcoming Initiative release.

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#40 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

@Pedro: No, it could be different in the future. We do know that with Game Pass MS is focused on onboarding and not profits in the short term. We also know DLC is not included with Game Pass so expansions with extra content such as additional chapters or episodes does presently have a path open for charging for that content.

DLC is not included with the regular purchase of games. Why is this an issue specifically for GamePass?

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#41 GirlUSoCrazy
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@Pedro: It isn't an issue. It ties in to the relevance of my original post. It provides a path forward for episodic games to release an initial Game Pass downloadable episode and charge for future episodes even to Game Pass subscribers.

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#42 hardwenzen
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Perfect Dark in third person??? What is wrong with these sick fucks?

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#43 DaVillain-  Moderator
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I thought Rare was still in charge of Perfect Dark?

(Thread title fix at TC request)

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#44 Pedro
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@girlusocrazy said:

@Pedro: It isn't an issue. It ties in to the relevance of my original post. It provides a path forward for episodic games to release an initial Game Pass downloadable episode and charge for future episodes even to Game Pass subscribers.

You are still ignoring the fact that all the episodes for episodic games are made available the same day its released on GamePass. Also you ignoring that current episodic games require the gamer to purchase each episode. Yet, you are citing this as a problem with GamePass even though the episodic games in the subscription all comes with the subscription.

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#45 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:

Perfect Dark in third person??? What is wrong with these sick fucks?

Fun fact: Perfect Dark on the Gameboy Color was play in 3rd-person so technically, this wouldn't be the first time this series went 3rd-person. Truth be told, I wouldn't mind it but I do hope it's kept in 1st-person.

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#46 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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This pre emotive thread should be called let's come up with ways to bitch about Xbox because Xbox.

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#47 Phlop_Spencer
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@ghost_of_phobos: awe. You’re upset that XSX is weaker than the PS5 and has no games for it? I would be too

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#48 GirlUSoCrazy
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@Pedro: Sounds like you're purposefully misunderstanding. Anyway there's no way to predict what will happen, just noting the possibility is there and the need to focus on the financial aspect of game pass will come after the onboarding phase.

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#50 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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@phlop_spencer: A little more effort please.