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#1 Sweenix
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:lol:

http://gamingbolt.com/ubisoft-explains-ps4-version-of-assassins-creed-4-will-have-superior-waves-and-wind-simulation

The PS4 version does not have any extra game content per se. Graphics, obviously, will be improved to give you a more immersive feeling: leaves and plants move with the wind, waves feel even more lifelike, sails billow in the wind, etc. Other than that, we do support the PS4 touchpad and Vita Remote Play, which means you will be able to play AC4 on your Vita through your PS4

 

ps, i shortened the title to fit everything, just happened ass creed fit :P

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Are you sure he is not just comparing it to the PS3 version? 

 

If so some leaves are the least of the improvements I would want.

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Ubisoft keeps comparing next gen systems to last gen systems. They're confusing people. Happened with Watch Dogs Xbone version where lems got excited until they realized it was being compared to the 360. I don't think they clarified here which system the PS4 version is being compared to.

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#4 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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That's amazing thanks for the heads up

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#6 GuNsbl4ziN
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That's amazing thanks for the heads up

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Really? Lol
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#7 Sushiglutton
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What the franchise is in desperate need of is better gameplay, not improved graphics.
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#8 NFJSupreme
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compared to what? Obviously not PC but are we talking PS360 or the xbone?
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#9 ManatuBeard
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Wasnt AC4 and Watch Dogs supposed to have 1h extra content for Sony consoles?

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Because waves make a game about assassination so much better.
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What the franchise is in desperate need of is better gameplay, not improved graphics.Sushiglutton
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#12 themajormayor
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Because waves make a game about assassination so much better.foxhound_fox
This is not a game about assassination though.
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#13 sherman-tank1
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Because waves make a game about assassination so much better.foxhound_fox
It isn't even about assassinating even more. It is about fvcking pirates. 

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#14 Riverwolf007
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small differences in xbox/ps3 multiplats in favor of the xbox is totally unimportant bullshyt that should not sway which version you buy.

small differences in x1/ps4 multiplats in favor of the ps4 is a totally important reason to get the ps4 version.

lol, how entertaining is it that every gen the sides flip on what is important to them.

because to me, that shyt is pretty funny.

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#15 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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It's still gonna be broken crap like AC III

Since when did a game that should be based around stealth and killing need better waves? 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Because waves make a game about assassination so much better.sherman-tank1

It isn't even about assassinating even more. It is about fvcking pirates. 

Except for the first game it never was really about assassinating.
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What the franchise is in desperate need of is better gameplay, not improved graphics.Sushiglutton

So true.

And they should focus on making what they have better. Instead of what they keep doing, they keep adding new gameplay features in each AC so you end up playing a tutorial for 5 hours. None of it has any depth, because after the tutorial, you're already tired of doing it.

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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]What the franchise is in desperate need of is better gameplay, not improved graphics.R4gn4r0k

So true.

And they should focus on making what they have better. Instead of what they keep doing, they keep adding new gameplay features in each AC so you end up playing a tutorial for 5 hours. None of it has any depth, because after the tutorial, you're already tired of doing it.

From what we have seen at E3, the game engine is still as buggy as ever...

Maybe fix the game engine or create a new one BEFORE trying to do wind and waves?

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#19 R4gn4r0k
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From what we have seen at E3, the game engine is still as buggy as ever...

Maybe fix the game engine or create a new one BEFORE trying to do wind and waves?

ManatuBeard

Ubisoft should've switched to the Watch Dogs or The Division engine for their AC franchise. But that would of course have meant a lot of work and no AC game this year. And Ubisoft has to release an AC game each year.

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#20 faizan_faizan
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Since when did a game that should be based around stealth and killing need better waves? seanmcloughlin
Because it features an ocean and it's a next gen game. :? The developers are trying to do something different this time, which is not bad. Just like R*.
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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]What the franchise is in desperate need of is better gameplay, not improved graphics.R4gn4r0k

So true.

And they should focus on making what they have better. Instead of what they keep doing, they keep adding new gameplay features in each AC so you end up playing a tutorial for 5 hours. None of it has any depth, because after the tutorial, you're already tired of doing it.

Exactly.

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#22 Sweetbackhair
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I don't think they make anything different out of those games anymore, I finished all the games except AC3 which I'm probably done anyway with it, but I just hit a wall and got bored with it.

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#23 ManatuBeard
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

From what we have seen at E3, the game engine is still as buggy as ever...

Maybe fix the game engine or create a new one BEFORE trying to do wind and waves?

R4gn4r0k

Ubisoft should've switched to the Watch Dogs or The Division engine for their AC franchise. But that would of course have meant a lot of work and no AC game this year. And Ubisoft has to release an AC game each year.

One each year? I read something about several teams making several ACs at the same time now.

They are milking it dry!

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#24 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Since when did a game that should be based around stealth and killing need better waves? faizan_faizan
Because it features an ocean and it's a next gen game. :? The developers are trying to do something different this time, which is not bad. Just like R*.

point is it needs to fix and enhance other things before it makes the graphics better. Making better visuals doesn't make a game better if the gameplay still sucks

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#25 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Since when did a game that should be based around stealth and killing need better waves? seanmcloughlin

Because it features an ocean and it's a next gen game. :? The developers are trying to do something different this time, which is not bad. Just like R*.

point is it needs to fix and enhance other things before it makes the graphics better. Making better visuals doesn't make a game better if the gameplay still sucks

I did not interpret your post correctly. Thanks for the elucidation.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Since when did a game that should be based around stealth and killing need better waves? faizan_faizan
Because it features an ocean and it's a next gen game. :?

Assassins creed iv is a current gen game,that will be ported to next gen consoles too.
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#27 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]Since when did a game that should be based around stealth and killing need better waves? call_of_duty_10
Because it features an ocean and it's a next gen game. :?

Assassins creed iv is a current gen game,that will be ported to next gen consoles too.

From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.
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#28 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] Because it features an ocean and it's a next gen game. :?

Assassins creed iv is a current gen game,that will be ported to next gen consoles too.

From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.

Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.
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#29 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Assassins creed iv is a current gen game,that will be ported to next gen consoles too.

From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.

Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.

Will it be available on a next gen console: PS4? Yes. Hence it's a next gen game.
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#30 FoxbatAlpha
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Omg! Did u see that wave off the starboard bow!!!!!!!! Way better than that wave on the X1 we saw yesterday. Uhhh no.
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#31 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.

Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.

Will it be available on a next gen console: PS4? Yes. Hence it's a next gen game.

Eh,that's not how it works. San andreas is a psn title.Doesn't make it a current gen game.
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will it also be on PC?

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BU BU BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CLOUDS???
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#34 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.

Will it be available on a next gen console: PS4? Yes. Hence it's a next gen game.

Eh,that's not how it works. San andreas is a psn title.Doesn't make it a current gen game.

Right.
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#35 handssss
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I'm confused then. Does the sticker here

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Apply to that quote? How do you measure something like that in terms of time and why then does the same sticker also exist on the ps3? That can't possibly have superior waves to the Xbox One version unless they seriously gimped it for those systems. 

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[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]What the franchise is in desperate need of is better gameplay, not improved graphics.R4gn4r0k

So true.

And they should focus on making what they have better. Instead of what they keep doing, they keep adding new gameplay features in each AC so you end up playing a tutorial for 5 hours. None of it has any depth, because after the tutorial, you're already tired of doing it.

Very true... they're just throwing random ideas at the wall, seeing if anything sticks.

I'll play Black Flag, but so far, seems Ubisoft hasn't made any progress towards fixing any of the real issues of the AC franchuse.

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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Assassins creed iv is a current gen game,that will be ported to next gen consoles too.call_of_duty_10
From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.

Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.

Can you precisely define what makes a "next-gen" game?

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ASS CREED

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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.Rocker6

Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.

Can you precisely define what makes a "next-gen" game?

Well,different people define it in different ways.Some people may not agree with my definition(especially nintendo fans),but I will spill my thoughts anyway. In my opinion,a next-gen game,is a game that has been built for next gen consoles,from the scratch.It is not possible to run it on previous gen consoles/hardware without some serious downgrades. (For example,in order to run Killzone 3 on a ps2,you will have to downgrade the graphics so much,that you won't be able to recognise it) When you add some extra features after making a game for certain hardware,it certainly looks better,but there is no quantum leap in graphics.On the other hand,games made for next gen consoles look far better than the ones made for previous gen,even with extra bells and whistles.
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] From the thread title: Ubisoft PS4 Version of ASS CREED 4 Will Have Superior Waves And simulation Just because it's going to be ported (the key word here) to the current gen consoles, does not mean it's going to be the same on next gen consoles.Rocker6

Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.

Can you precisely define what makes a "next-gen" game?

Its true, most launch day/window multiplat games will be upgraded current gen. The changes needed in the game engines to make a REAL looking nextgen game would be very expensive and since there is no install base, it doesnt justify it. Its easier to make makes with current gen assets and scale them up (AC4 does look that way, Watch Dogs at least is using dynamic lighting for nextgen and fixed lighting for current gen, but that is a small improvement).

Also, these games have been in development for at least 2 years, and only in February Sony decided to change the memory from 4gb to 8 gb, if devs already have new devkits reflecting that, it hasnt been for very long, and the demos showed so far have been, most likely, made before that, or not yet optimized at all for that

Quantic Dream only used 4gb mem for their Dark Sorcerer demo, it gives the impression that because the demo was already in development by the time of the change, they didnt target the 8gb, and they are a 2nd party studio, i guess 3rd party are way less ahead in terms of development change from the 4gb to the 8gb.

So im not surprised that PS4 demos dont look "finished" so far (although i wouldnt be surprised if AC4 ended up being a buggy mess...)

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he is comparing it to the ps3 guys
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Well,different people define it in different ways.Some people may not agree with my definition(especially nintendo fans),but I will spill my thoughts anyway. In my opinion,a next-gen game,is a game that has been built for next gen consoles,from the scratch.It is not possible to run it on previous gen consoles/hardware without some serious downgrades. (For example,in order to run Killzone 3 on a ps2,you will have to downgrade the graphics so much,that you won't be able to recognise it) When you add some extra features after making a game for certain hardware,it certainly looks better,but there is no quantum leap in graphics.On the other hand,games made for next gen consoles look far better than the ones made for previous gen,even with extra bells and whistles.call_of_duty_10

Indie games appearing on PS4/Xbone are next gen games eventhough they could work on lesser hardware.

It's the same with the WiiU really. People say it's not next gen because it's not powerful enough. Yet it has nothing to do with power and everything to do with the time period it releases in.

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Awesome but he is probably comparing it to 360 and PS3 versions.

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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] Some extra features don't make the game next gen,though. The PC version of dragon age 2 is not next gen just because it has some dx11 graphical features. Building a next gen game from scratch =/= Adding 2 or 3 next gen features.call_of_duty_10

Can you precisely define what makes a "next-gen" game?

Well,different people define it in different ways.Some people may not agree with my definition(especially nintendo fans),but I will spill my thoughts anyway. In my opinion,a next-gen game,is a game that has been built for next gen consoles,from the scratch.It is not possible to run it on previous gen consoles/hardware without some serious downgrades. (For example,in order to run Killzone 3 on a ps2,you will have to downgrade the graphics so much,that you won't be able to recognise it) When you add some extra features after making a game for certain hardware,it certainly looks better,but there is no quantum leap in graphics.On the other hand,games made for next gen consoles look far better than the ones made for previous gen,even with extra bells and whistles.

So, you believe it's all about the graphics, and don't expect any major change in overall game design?

Also, personally, I don't expect any quantum leaps in graphics next gen, I believe some of the current PC games like Crysis 3 will be trading blows with the best looking next gen console titles for years to come...

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#45 LordQuorthon
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Because waves make a game about assassination so much better.foxhound_fox

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#48 rjdofu
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Who needs teh cloudz when we have teh wavez?
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#49 Ricardomz
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Who cares about freaking waves...

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#50 freedomfreak  Online
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Nice. I do love my water effects.