Top 10 Games of the Generation

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

***1*** Flight Simulator X. Why? My field of work is related to weather. Plus, a good part of my life was dedicated to weather and aviation. FSX is the only game I know so far where I can input real-world weather and have a degree of accuracy in the way clouds and obstructions to vision are rendered. Plus, there's no shooting or killing. It's simply the serenity of flying among the clouds.

2. IL2 Pacific Fighters. Technically, this is last-gen. But, the thread rule says from 2004 onwards. So, I'm counting this. I love WW2 aviation as a hobby. That means I like it in scale models, books/magazines, and in video games. Sure, I like to fly around. Once in a while, I want to shoot at something and re-live in an accurate way, the various tactics used by the major combatants in the air war of WW2. The IL2 series reproduce these faithfully.

3. IL2 Cliffs of Dover. This was supposed to be the successor to the IL2 line. Unfortunately, a glitchy release coupled with questionable AI and being a resource hog resulted in terrible reviews. I think those dings have been fixed and Cliffs of dover to me is good for a few rounds of intense dogfights during the Battle of Britain.

 

4. Hard Reset. I love the run and gun FPS of old. This game is the perfect fix. No realism required. No logic. No stupid story. Just gimme my gun and start the fireworks. It's sci-fi. It's loud with lots of explosions. I love it!

5. The Uncharted series. Yup I like them all, even UC1. I like adventure games and I consider the UC games as adventure with action elements.

6. FIFA 2013. Sports is the one genre that keeps me gaming on consoles and FIFA just happens to be my favorite:

7. The Crysis games. Like the UC series, I like all of the Crysis series. It's teh only series that really makes me feel like the Predator in the Predator movies:

8. The Killzone games. Sure. I rag on their graphics and grumble about KZ2 as having the worst bullet sponges. They're linear as hell and generic as they come. But, they're action-filled almost at every corner and have tons of options for singleplayer. Sounds great too. So, despite all my belly-aching, I still love the series and looking forward to KZ4.

9. Far Cry 3. It's too easy. But, I love exploring its world when I need my open-world fix. I'm a sucker for tropical islands.

10. The Total War games. Lots of killing at a massive scale with me playing as general. Love it.

Drasonak

The awful story doesn't take away from the fact that Far Cry 3 is a good game.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

 

turtlethetaffer

The awful story doesn't take away from the fact that Far Cry 3 is a good game.

I was thinking the same thing.

Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

If that's the way you saw it, that's fine. Me? I was barely paying attention to the story line. I was more engrossed with the world itself.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The awful story doesn't take away from the fact that Far Cry 3 is a good game.

DragonfireXZ95

I was thinking the same thing.

Isn't TC a well known troll?

Super Mario Galaxy

Super Mario Galaxy 2

Super Paper Mario

Mario Kart Wii

Xenoblade

Zelda Skyward Sword

Metroid Prime trilogy

DK Country Returns

- Reserved - Maybe Metro Last Light.

Batman Arkham city (For best blockbuster game, will probably get replaced by GTA V)

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The awful story doesn't take away from the fact that Far Cry 3 is a good game.

DragonfireXZ95

I was thinking the same thing.

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The awful story doesn't take away from the fact that Far Cry 3 is a good game.

Drasonak

I was thinking the same thing.

It's still fun to play.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

America is pretty bad, though.

lundy86_4

In terms of what? It has it's downfalls. As does any country.

A lot.  But it has its good parts though.  I live there, in the midwest, so that's part of it.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.jun_aka_pekto

If that's the way you saw it, that's fine. Me? I was barely paying attention to the story line. I was more engrossed with the world itself.

Based on the games that stuck in my head the most or I played a lot.

 

1. Ico and Shadow Of Colossus HD Collection - (Lol this game has won this gen and last gen, will any future game ever beat these?)

2. Disgaea 4 - (200+ hours well spent, loads of laughs, great gameplay. Everyone should give this game a try :) never know it could be your favorite)

3. Bioshock - (Craps all over Infinite, in its time)

4. Uncharted 2 & 3  - (awwwww this series is so awesome)

5. Halo Series - (excluding Halo Wars, sucked, all other Halo's were great)

6. Journey - (One of the most beautiful & Unique games ever created)

7. LittleBigPlanet 2 - (Fun with the Family, Many hours spent playing.)

8. Fallout 3 - (Has not aged well, but when it first came out, I thought it was the bees Knees)

9. Heavy Rain - (Oh yes I loved this game, a game movie that allows you to determine the outcome)

10. Tomb Raider - (OMG great Job, this is the best Tomb Raider game since PS1 games)

Honerable mentions for Great Games this gen I also loved

- Portal 2

- Gears Of War Series

- Alan Wake

- Ratchet And Clank Future Series

- Resistance 3

- Sound Shapes

- Gravity Rush

- Metal Gear Rising (Would have made the top list if the game was longer, BEST CUTSCENES & Slicing gameplay ever)

- Rayman Origins

- Donkey Kong Returns

- Mario Galaxy 1 & 2

- Killzone 2 & 3

- Braid

- Guacamelee

- Starhawk (Multiplayer is pretty awesome)

Mrmedia01

This guy :cry: i love this guy for including gravity rush in his list :oops: *sheds tears*

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

If that's the way you saw it, that's fine. Me? I was barely paying attention to the story line. I was more engrossed with the world itself.

Oh just quit it.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Call of Duty 2

Call of Duty 3

Call of Duty 4

CoD: World and War

CoD: Modern Warfare 2

CoD: Black Ops

CoD: Modern Warfare 3

CoD: Black Ops 2

Halo 3

Halo 4

CallOfDutyRulez

If that's true, you have terrible taste in games.

Hey cow, still butthurt that no PS3 exclusive was able to top the sales for ANY of the games I've listed? You should take my advice and go to the nearest pharmaceutical to get some ointment for your butthurt.

Why dont you list Gran tursimo 5? It has outsold COD Black ops 2 for ps3. Also COD games are mutliplat fakeboy:?

Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

[QUOTE="menes777"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

The awful story doesn't take away from the fact that Far Cry 3 is a good game.

Drasonak

I was thinking the same thing.

I guess you haven't played Postal 2 (or 3) or Modern Warfare 2.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

If that's the way you saw it, that's fine. Me? I was barely paying attention to the story line. I was more engrossed with the world itself.

turtlethetaffer

Oh just quit it.

I bet you saw nothing wrong with this either... but this stuff pervades every medium to some extent. This is just a more obvious example.

Ha ha, it never works when I try to submit a signature. It always says it's too big or something.Drasonak

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"] Yes... Euro-centricism at its finest. Your culture has blinded you from seeing any fault with it at all. You are far too used it being the norm. Read Teasley & Tyson, Tim Wise, and W.E.B. DuBois for more information. They explain this attitude on psychological and societal level pretty well.Drasonak

Oh just quit it.

I bet you saw nothing wrong with this either... but this stuff pervades every medium to some extent. This is just a more obvious example.

Um... I acknowledge that the Far Cry 3 story is sh!t and hell more or less racist? The fact is that despite that it's still a well made and fun to play game.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

lostrib

Whats Wrong With Far Cry 3 The Static Characters Yesterday I talked about the protagonist, and how while there were clearly problems, in the end I found myself liking this spoiled kids descent into cruel, terrified brutality. I also attempted to dismiss away the situation he was in. Thats not really fair. Because Far Cry 3, well, its a bit racist, isnt it? I said, rather flippantly, that the people of this island are the race they are, because its the island theyre native to. It is what it is, essentially. And thats the case thats really not the issue here. It had to be set somewhere. The issue is the horribly worn tropes it so lazily kicks around when it gets there. As it is, you have the simple-folk-natives, and the immigrant white men with their mixture of South African and Australian accents. And one black guy. White people ask you to get involved in enormously elaborate machinations, ancient mysteries, and local politics. Locals ask you to help them kill endangered species, find their missing daughters, and point out when their husbands are gay. Essentially, the locals behave as if theyre helpless without you, but when you wield their tattoo-based magical powers then true greatness appears. And its here that the problems really kick in. Theres a term for it. Its Noble Savage. And it also falls under the remit of the Magical Negro. The trope is that the non-white character possesses mystical insight, magical abilities, or simply a wisdom derived from such a simple life, that can enlighten the white man. And its pretty icky. The premise relies on the belief that the individuals race is in some way debilitating, something their noble/mystical abilities are able to overcome. The further you get, the more revered your character becomes. The antagonists call you Snow White, a derisory name but one that pretty much points out that youre the pure white American man in this land of colourful folks. And the locals begin to hear word of not only your helpful ways (which would seem fair youre being very helpful) but also your abilities with their customs, your wielding of their powers. You are the outsider who has come in and outdone them, shown them the true majesty of their savage abilities. They cant fight against the pirates for themselves, but you can save them. Now, Ive not finished the game I am, by the map, halfway through. This might be discussed, it might be addressed, but its certainly already there. So Ive argued why I think the story of the spoilt rich white kids having their worlds fall apart is not a bad thing. But I do wonder what would have stopped the story being about a local of the island rising up against the pirate oppressors. And then at least the problematic mystical bullshit would have at least been a part of his or her culture, even if it would still have remained entirely unnecessary. Or maybe just have the island be inhabited by an indigenous race that isnt generally pathetic. And then theres the rapey bit. (Oddly, this paragraph is also a spoiler.) General rule: unless your game is about rape, or willing to truly deal with the subject, maybe steer clear of rape. Its way too big of a subject to nonchalantly include, and its pretty abhorrent to use it as a mere plot beat. The rape in FC3 is threatened and implied, rather than witnessed, but its so thrown away, used to say, This man who did it is terrible! rather than to explore the true horror for the repeatedly abused victim. The perpetrator happens to be one of the best written and acted characters in game especially acted. Its a fantastic performance. And his being a monster makes that all the more affecting. But in the end, the reveal of Jasons victimisation is flippant, and the ludicrous mystic-trippy scene in which you QTE kill Buck is just plain offensive in the context. I think it was intended to further the brutal horror faced by these rich suburban kids, but in the end its an awkward, potentially upsetting misfire.

What is your deal with PC gamers? I mean seriously let it go.  You biased sack of shit

:lol: Drasonak claims another victim.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"] Quoted from Rock, Paper, Shotgun, a PC gaming news outlet that is very outspoken on issues of misogyny in the gaming community. Could it be run by disguised console gamers in an effort to put some morals on PC gamers so they can stop dragging society's image of a gamer down? Well, regardless, they made some interesting points:

Whats Wrong With Far Cry 3 The Static Characters Yesterday I talked about the protagonist, and how while there were clearly problems, in the end I found myself liking this spoiled kids descent into cruel, terrified brutality. I also attempted to dismiss away the situation he was in. Thats not really fair. Because Far Cry 3, well, its a bit racist, isnt it? I said, rather flippantly, that the people of this island are the race they are, because its the island theyre native to. It is what it is, essentially. And thats the case thats really not the issue here. It had to be set somewhere. The issue is the horribly worn tropes it so lazily kicks around when it gets there. As it is, you have the simple-folk-natives, and the immigrant white men with their mixture of South African and Australian accents. And one black guy. White people ask you to get involved in enormously elaborate machinations, ancient mysteries, and local politics. Locals ask you to help them kill endangered species, find their missing daughters, and point out when their husbands are gay. Essentially, the locals behave as if theyre helpless without you, but when you wield their tattoo-based magical powers then true greatness appears. And its here that the problems really kick in. Theres a term for it. Its Noble Savage. And it also falls under the remit of the Magical Negro. The trope is that the non-white character possesses mystical insight, magical abilities, or simply a wisdom derived from such a simple life, that can enlighten the white man. And its pretty icky. The premise relies on the belief that the individuals race is in some way debilitating, something their noble/mystical abilities are able to overcome. The further you get, the more revered your character becomes. The antagonists call you Snow White, a derisory name but one that pretty much points out that youre the pure white American man in this land of colourful folks. And the locals begin to hear word of not only your helpful ways (which would seem fair youre being very helpful) but also your abilities with their customs, your wielding of their powers. You are the outsider who has come in and outdone them, shown them the true majesty of their savage abilities. They cant fight against the pirates for themselves, but you can save them. Now, Ive not finished the game I am, by the map, halfway through. This might be discussed, it might be addressed, but its certainly already there. So Ive argued why I think the story of the spoilt rich white kids having their worlds fall apart is not a bad thing. But I do wonder what would have stopped the story being about a local of the island rising up against the pirate oppressors. And then at least the problematic mystical bullshit would have at least been a part of his or her culture, even if it would still have remained entirely unnecessary. Or maybe just have the island be inhabited by an indigenous race that isnt generally pathetic. And then theres the rapey bit. (Oddly, this paragraph is also a spoiler.) General rule: unless your game is about rape, or willing to truly deal with the subject, maybe steer clear of rape. Its way too big of a subject to nonchalantly include, and its pretty abhorrent to use it as a mere plot beat. The rape in FC3 is threatened and implied, rather than witnessed, but its so thrown away, used to say, This man who did it is terrible! rather than to explore the true horror for the repeatedly abused victim. The perpetrator happens to be one of the best written and acted characters in game especially acted. Its a fantastic performance. And his being a monster makes that all the more affecting. But in the end, the reveal of Jasons victimisation is flippant, and the ludicrous mystic-trippy scene in which you QTE kill Buck is just plain offensive in the context. I think it was intended to further the brutal horror faced by these rich suburban kids, but in the end its an awkward, potentially upsetting misfire.Obviously_Right

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/12/04/what-i-loathe-about-far-cry-3/

What is your deal with PC gamers? I mean seriously let it go.  You biased sack of shit

:lol: Drasonak claims another victim.

Just another day in SW.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Rocker6

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

Whats Wrong With Far Cry 3 The Static Characters Yesterday I talked about the protagonist, and how while there were clearly problems, in the end I found myself liking this spoiled kids descent into cruel, terrified brutality. I also attempted to dismiss away the situation he was in. Thats not really fair. Because Far Cry 3, well, its a bit racist, isnt it? I said, rather flippantly, that the people of this island are the race they are, because its the island theyre native to. It is what it is, essentially. And thats the case thats really not the issue here. It had to be set somewhere. The issue is the horribly worn tropes it so lazily kicks around when it gets there. As it is, you have the simple-folk-natives, and the immigrant white men with their mixture of South African and Australian accents. And one black guy. White people ask you to get involved in enormously elaborate machinations, ancient mysteries, and local politics. Locals ask you to help them kill endangered species, find their missing daughters, and point out when their husbands are gay. Essentially, the locals behave as if theyre helpless without you, but when you wield their tattoo-based magical powers then true greatness appears. And its here that the problems really kick in. Theres a term for it. Its Noble Savage. And it also falls under the remit of the Magical Negro. The trope is that the non-white character possesses mystical insight, magical abilities, or simply a wisdom derived from such a simple life, that can enlighten the white man. And its pretty icky. The premise relies on the belief that the individuals race is in some way debilitating, something their noble/mystical abilities are able to overcome. The further you get, the more revered your character becomes. The antagonists call you Snow White, a derisory name but one that pretty much points out that youre the pure white American man in this land of colourful folks. And the locals begin to hear word of not only your helpful ways (which would seem fair youre being very helpful) but also your abilities with their customs, your wielding of their powers. You are the outsider who has come in and outdone them, shown them the true majesty of their savage abilities. They cant fight against the pirates for themselves, but you can save them. Now, Ive not finished the game I am, by the map, halfway through. This might be discussed, it might be addressed, but its certainly already there. So Ive argued why I think the story of the spoilt rich white kids having their worlds fall apart is not a bad thing. But I do wonder what would have stopped the story being about a local of the island rising up against the pirate oppressors. And then at least the problematic mystical bullshit would have at least been a part of his or her culture, even if it would still have remained entirely unnecessary. Or maybe just have the island be inhabited by an indigenous race that isnt generally pathetic. And then theres the rapey bit. (Oddly, this paragraph is also a spoiler.) General rule: unless your game is about rape, or willing to truly deal with the subject, maybe steer clear of rape. Its way too big of a subject to nonchalantly include, and its pretty abhorrent to use it as a mere plot beat. The rape in FC3 is threatened and implied, rather than witnessed, but its so thrown away, used to say, This man who did it is terrible! rather than to explore the true horror for the repeatedly abused victim. The perpetrator happens to be one of the best written and acted characters in game especially acted. Its a fantastic performance. And his being a monster makes that all the more affecting. But in the end, the reveal of Jasons victimisation is flippant, and the ludicrous mystic-trippy scene in which you QTE kill Buck is just plain offensive in the context. I think it was intended to further the brutal horror faced by these rich suburban kids, but in the end its an awkward, potentially upsetting misfire.

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"] Yes... Euro-centricism at its finest. Your culture has blinded you from seeing any fault with it at all. You are far too used it being the norm. Read Teasley & Tyson, Tim Wise, and W.E.B. DuBois for more information. They explain this attitude on psychological and societal level pretty well.Drasonak

Oh just quit it.

I bet you saw nothing wrong with this either... but this stuff pervades every medium to some extent. This is just a more obvious example.

Don't see anything wrong with that movie, doesn't bother me...

Rather amusing how these days we get a bunch of people on the Internet being on a constant lookout for anything to get offended about...

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

If that's the way you saw it, that's fine. Me? I was barely paying attention to the story line. I was more engrossed with the world itself.

Jesus christ, some of us play video games just to have fun and not psycho analyze every possible bullshit Politically correct angle.  

Hoo buddy this thread has gone off the rails.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

Whats Wrong With Far Cry 3 The Static Characters Yesterday I talked about the protagonist, and how while there were clearly problems, in the end I found myself liking this spoiled kids descent into cruel, terrified brutality. I also attempted to dismiss away the situation he was in. Thats not really fair. Because Far Cry 3, well, its a bit racist, isnt it? I said, rather flippantly, that the people of this island are the race they are, because its the island theyre native to. It is what it is, essentially. And thats the case thats really not the issue here. It had to be set somewhere. The issue is the horribly worn tropes it so lazily kicks around when it gets there. As it is, you have the simple-folk-natives, and the immigrant white men with their mixture of South African and Australian accents. And one black guy. White people ask you to get involved in enormously elaborate machinations, ancient mysteries, and local politics. Locals ask you to help them kill endangered species, find their missing daughters, and point out when their husbands are gay. Essentially, the locals behave as if theyre helpless without you, but when you wield their tattoo-based magical powers then true greatness appears. And its here that the problems really kick in. Theres a term for it. Its Noble Savage. And it also falls under the remit of the Magical Negro. The trope is that the non-white character possesses mystical insight, magical abilities, or simply a wisdom derived from such a simple life, that can enlighten the white man. And its pretty icky. The premise relies on the belief that the individuals race is in some way debilitating, something their noble/mystical abilities are able to overcome. The further you get, the more revered your character becomes. The antagonists call you Snow White, a derisory name but one that pretty much points out that youre the pure white American man in this land of colourful folks. And the locals begin to hear word of not only your helpful ways (which would seem fair youre being very helpful) but also your abilities with their customs, your wielding of their powers. You are the outsider who has come in and outdone them, shown them the true majesty of their savage abilities. They cant fight against the pirates for themselves, but you can save them. Now, Ive not finished the game I am, by the map, halfway through. This might be discussed, it might be addressed, but its certainly already there. So Ive argued why I think the story of the spoilt rich white kids having their worlds fall apart is not a bad thing. But I do wonder what would have stopped the story being about a local of the island rising up against the pirate oppressors. And then at least the problematic mystical bullshit would have at least been a part of his or her culture, even if it would still have remained entirely unnecessary. Or maybe just have the island be inhabited by an indigenous race that isnt generally pathetic. And then theres the rapey bit. (Oddly, this paragraph is also a spoiler.) General rule: unless your game is about rape, or willing to truly deal with the subject, maybe steer clear of rape. Its way too big of a subject to nonchalantly include, and its pretty abhorrent to use it as a mere plot beat. The rape in FC3 is threatened and implied, rather than witnessed, but its so thrown away, used to say, This man who did it is terrible! rather than to explore the true horror for the repeatedly abused victim. The perpetrator happens to be one of the best written and acted characters in game especially acted. Its a fantastic performance. And his being a monster makes that all the more affecting. But in the end, the reveal of Jasons victimisation is flippant, and the ludicrous mystic-trippy scene in which you QTE kill Buck is just plain offensive in the context. I think it was intended to further the brutal horror faced by these rich suburban kids, but in the end its an awkward, potentially upsetting misfire.

What is your deal with PC gamers? I mean seriously let it go.  You biased sack of shit

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I just love how none of the games you guys have listed have sold more than the CoD series.

Sales prove which games are the best. Why else would people buy the game? DERP!!!

trollhunter2

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

Cool... only why would I overanalyze the storyline and characters in a game like FC3, where they take a huge backseat to the gameplay and an open world?

[QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I just love how none of the games you guys have listed have sold more than the CoD series.

Sales prove which games are the best. Why else would people buy the game? DERP!!!

CallOfDutyRulez

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

Oh my God, your trolling is truly awful... In a trollish way. :lol:

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Ha ha, it never works when I try to submit a signature. It always says it's too big or something.freedomfreak

[QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I just love how none of the games you guys have listed have sold more than the CoD series.

Sales prove which games are the best. Why else would people buy the game? DERP!!!

CallOfDutyRulez

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

Surprisingly, games can be good with out sales. And bad games can have good sales--just take a look at simcity (2013)

Hoo buddy this thread has gone off the rails.

turtlethetaffer

It was a barrel of a gunpoweder right from the start, a disaster waiting to happen. Only I'm suprised it didn't take this route right on the first page...

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Drasonak

If that's the way you saw it, that's fine. Me? I was barely paying attention to the story line. I was more engrossed with the world itself.

I don't take video games seriously enough to get into a tizzy about whether its morals are questionable or not. Don't waste anymore time and spit on me. It's pointless.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

lostrib

Whats Wrong With Far Cry 3 The Static Characters Yesterday I talked about the protagonist, and how while there were clearly problems, in the end I found myself liking this spoiled kids descent into cruel, terrified brutality. I also attempted to dismiss away the situation he was in. Thats not really fair. Because Far Cry 3, well, its a bit racist, isnt it? I said, rather flippantly, that the people of this island are the race they are, because its the island theyre native to. It is what it is, essentially. And thats the case thats really not the issue here. It had to be set somewhere. The issue is the horribly worn tropes it so lazily kicks around when it gets there. As it is, you have the simple-folk-natives, and the immigrant white men with their mixture of South African and Australian accents. And one black guy. White people ask you to get involved in enormously elaborate machinations, ancient mysteries, and local politics. Locals ask you to help them kill endangered species, find their missing daughters, and point out when their husbands are gay. Essentially, the locals behave as if theyre helpless without you, but when you wield their tattoo-based magical powers then true greatness appears. And its here that the problems really kick in. Theres a term for it. Its Noble Savage. And it also falls under the remit of the Magical Negro. The trope is that the non-white character possesses mystical insight, magical abilities, or simply a wisdom derived from such a simple life, that can enlighten the white man. And its pretty icky. The premise relies on the belief that the individuals race is in some way debilitating, something their noble/mystical abilities are able to overcome. The further you get, the more revered your character becomes. The antagonists call you Snow White, a derisory name but one that pretty much points out that youre the pure white American man in this land of colourful folks. And the locals begin to hear word of not only your helpful ways (which would seem fair youre being very helpful) but also your abilities with their customs, your wielding of their powers. You are the outsider who has come in and outdone them, shown them the true majesty of their savage abilities. They cant fight against the pirates for themselves, but you can save them. Now, Ive not finished the game I am, by the map, halfway through. This might be discussed, it might be addressed, but its certainly already there. So Ive argued why I think the story of the spoilt rich white kids having their worlds fall apart is not a bad thing. But I do wonder what would have stopped the story being about a local of the island rising up against the pirate oppressors. And then at least the problematic mystical bullshit would have at least been a part of his or her culture, even if it would still have remained entirely unnecessary. Or maybe just have the island be inhabited by an indigenous race that isnt generally pathetic. And then theres the rapey bit. (Oddly, this paragraph is also a spoiler.) General rule: unless your game is about rape, or willing to truly deal with the subject, maybe steer clear of rape. Its way too big of a subject to nonchalantly include, and its pretty abhorrent to use it as a mere plot beat. The rape in FC3 is threatened and implied, rather than witnessed, but its so thrown away, used to say, This man who did it is terrible! rather than to explore the true horror for the repeatedly abused victim. The perpetrator happens to be one of the best written and acted characters in game especially acted. Its a fantastic performance. And his being a monster makes that all the more affecting. But in the end, the reveal of Jasons victimisation is flippant, and the ludicrous mystic-trippy scene in which you QTE kill Buck is just plain offensive in the context. I think it was intended to further the brutal horror faced by these rich suburban kids, but in the end its an awkward, potentially upsetting misfire.

What is your deal with PC gamers? I mean seriously let it go.  You biased sack of shit

I think he couldn't figure out how to turn one on and has been pissed ever since.

Alright, I'll be sure to get around to it. Do you take requests? :DDrasonak

[QUOTE="Drasonak"][QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Far Cry 3's story in a nutshell: "We brown people need the help of a single white cis male who has not training in combat at all to cast out the other brown people. Ooga-booga magic ceremonial, spiritual bullshit, 'cause that's what brown people do. You should be really sad that this one white person died, because that is equivalent to a whole person, unlike the millions of brown people slaughtered by the organization's hands. Oh, and we're in tune with nature and stuff and wear tribal clothes because our culture sucks since the European's decided not to **** with it." You would think it's the late 19th, early 20th century if we weren't on the Internet or playing video games right now.Rocker6

And there we go, straight into the darkest bowels of a shitty toilet... was just a matter of time with you anway...

Cool... only why would I overanalyze the storyline and characters in a game like FC3, where they take a huge backseat to the gameplay and an open world?

The only entertaining part of the story in FC3 was Vaas and that had a lot to do with the great voice acting.  It's a pretty generic action movie plot with some decent into madness portions thrown in, which actually got annoying because they turned many of the end "boss" deaths into hallucinogenic quick time events

This actually would've been a really good thread had TC's personality been less repulsive.Mystery_Writer

Yeah if he didnt have to turn every thread into biased fanboy bashing bullshit and then add in some extra ******** crap for extra suckage

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Oh just quit it.

Rocker6

I bet you saw nothing wrong with this either... but this stuff pervades every medium to some extent. This is just a more obvious example.

Don't see anything wrong with that movie, doesn't bother me...

Rather amusing how these days we get a bunch of people on the Internet being on a constant lookout for anything to get offended about...

[QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I just love how none of the games you guys have listed have sold more than the CoD series.

Sales prove which games are the best. Why else would people buy the game? DERP!!!

CallOfDutyRulez

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Hoo buddy this thread has gone off the rails.

Rocker6

It was a barrel of a gunpoweder right from the start, a disaster waiting to happen. Only I'm suprised it didn't take this route right on the first page...

Yeah but now we've got Draconak or whatever he's called going off about cultural sensitivity and whatnot... good lawd.

[QUOTE="Drasonak"]Alright, I'll be sure to get around to it. Do you take requests? :Dfreedomfreak

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"][QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

lostrib

Surprisingly, games can be good with out sales. And bad games can have good sales--just take a look at simcity (2013)

If a game is good, word would spread and the game would sell well even without marketing. Just take a look at Valkyria Chronicles. The game got almost no marketing from the publisher, yet still managed to sell more than 1 million copies.

Just ask yourself: If you truly enjoyed an obscure game, wouldn't you wanna share that information with your fellow gamers so that there could be a sequel? The game quality decides how many sales the game will get, not the "marketing" bullcrap you cows keep spewing.

[QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

I just love how none of the games you guys have listed have sold more than the CoD series.

Sales prove which games are the best. Why else would people buy the game? DERP!!!

CallOfDutyRulez

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

funny mario kart wii outsold all those games you've listed :? and you still call it a crappy game. I thought you are striving for the best selling and most profitable games, instead of the good ones:?

Also kinda ironic that Gran turismo 5 for PS3 has outsold COD Black OPS 2 and MW3 for ps3, still you havent listed it.

You fail at the promise of being a Profitable Sales gamer :(

It's good groundwork, though. Could you maybe just put a razor in his hand? Hope I'm not pushing you to your limits with this. :PDrasonak

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"] Why do people care so much about reviews? "Professional" Reviews are often paid for by SONY, and user reviews are often flooded by SONY fanboys giving their precious, sub-1 million sellers 10/10. The only reliable measure that gauges how good a game is is SALES. Good games and franchises sells plenty for every iteration. Failed games with garbage quality like 99% of SONY's offerings get ignored by the gamers. Logic. Use it, cows.CallOfDutyRulez

Surprisingly, games can be good with out sales. And bad games can have good sales--just take a look at simcity (2013)

If a game is good, word would spread and the game would sell well even without marketing. Just take a look at Valkyria Chronicles. The game got almost no marketing from the publisher, yet still managed to sell more than 1 million copies.

Just ask yourself: If you truly enjoyed an obscure game, wouldn't you wanna share that information with your fellow gamers so that there could be a sequel? The game quality decides how many sales the game will get, not the "marketing" bullcrap you cows keep spewing.

So, someone doesn't njoy an obscure game unless they talk about it? which, by the way, most people do on websites such as this?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

The only entertaining part of the story in FC3 was Vaas and that had a lot to do with the great voice acting.  It's a pretty generic action movie plot with some decent into madness portions thrown in, which actually got annoying because they turned many of the end "boss" deaths into hallucinogenic quick time events

Rocker6

Yeah, and to say, most games have generic action movie plots, filled with the usual cliches and stereotypes. If the gameplay is great, who cares?

Story, writting and characters are only worth discussing if devs are trying to sell a game on that premise while putting some actual effort into it... else, you know it'll be bad to mediocre.

Yeah the best parts in Far Cry 3 are the gameplay aspects, mainly attacking outposts.  Just taking whatever tactic you want to try.  Stealth, full on rambo, releasing animals, just C4ing everything! Also fire

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"] http://angloamerica101.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/white-savior-fantasy-the-impossible/ Look at this movie. A tsunami in Thailand focused around a bunch of pretty white people? Even the other characters they run into with the same situation are idealic white people. They could've played up an interesting dynamic by crossing cultural boundary lines to form a bound, but no, just throw even more white people so the audience can actually feel sorry for both of them sharing in the same tragedy.

I bet you saw nothing wrong with this either... but this stuff pervades every medium to some extent. This is just a more obvious example.

Drasonak

Don't see anything wrong with that movie, doesn't bother me...

Rather amusing how these days we get a bunch of people on the Internet being on a constant lookout for anything to get offended about...

That's cool... only I don't care. I associate Axe with a good shower, and never heard of Lucerne milk... don't think it's availible around here.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"] Why do people care so much about reviews? "Professional" Reviews are often paid for by SONY, and user reviews are often flooded by SONY fanboys giving their precious, sub-1 million sellers 10/10. The only reliable measure that gauges how good a game is is SALES. Good games and franchises sells plenty for every iteration. Failed games with garbage quality like 99% of SONY's offerings get ignored by the gamers. Logic. Use it, cows.CallOfDutyRulez

Surprisingly, games can be good with out sales. And bad games can have good sales--just take a look at simcity (2013)

If a game is good, word would spread and the game would sell well even without marketing. Just take a look at Valkyria Chronicles. The game got almost no marketing from the publisher, yet still managed to sell more than 1 million copies.

Just ask yourself: If you truly enjoyed an obscure game, wouldn't you wanna share that information with your fellow gamers so that there could be a sequel? The game quality decides how many sales the game will get, not the "marketing" bullcrap you cows keep spewing.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"] Why do people care so much about reviews? "Professional" Reviews are often paid for by SONY, and user reviews are often flooded by SONY fanboys giving their precious, sub-1 million sellers 10/10. The only reliable measure that gauges how good a game is is SALES. Good games and franchises sells plenty for every iteration. Failed games with garbage quality like 99% of SONY's offerings get ignored by the gamers. Logic. Use it, cows.CallOfDutyRulez

Surprisingly, games can be good with out sales. And bad games can have good sales--just take a look at simcity (2013)

If a game is good, word would spread and the game would sell well even without marketing. Just take a look at Valkyria Chronicles. The game got almost no marketing from the publisher, yet still managed to sell more than 1 million copies.

Just ask yourself: If you truly enjoyed an obscure game, wouldn't you wanna share that information with your fellow gamers so that there could be a sequel? The game quality decides how many sales the game will get, not the "marketing" bullcrap you cows keep spewing.

and the fact that bad games can get good sales?

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Drasonak"] http://angloamerica101.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/white-savior-fantasy-the-impossible/ Look at this movie. A tsunami in Thailand focused around a bunch of pretty white people? Even the other characters they run into with the same situation are idealic white people. They could've played up an interesting dynamic by crossing cultural boundary lines to form a bound, but no, just throw even more white people so the audience can actually feel sorry for both of them sharing in the same tragedy.

I bet you saw nothing wrong with this either... but this stuff pervades every medium to some extent. This is just a more obvious example.

Drasonak

Don't see anything wrong with that movie, doesn't bother me...

Rather amusing how these days we get a bunch of people on the Internet being on a constant lookout for anything to get offended about...

yeah it's called advertising. Businesses want to make money, including film studios

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"][QUOTE="trollhunter2"]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :? ...... :(

He is serious ?

trollhunter2

funny mario kart wii outsold all those games you've listed :? and you still call it a crappy game. I thought you are striving for the best selling and most profitable games, instead of the good ones:?

Also kinda ironic that Gran turismo 5 for PS3 has outsold COD Black OPS 2 and MW3 for ps3, still you havent listed it.

You fail at the promise of being a Profitable Sales gamer :(

I'm not denying that there are SOME good games for the PS3. I'm saying that the correlation coefficient between sales and game quality is not a perfect 1.0. There are a myriad other factors that play into sales - Marketing and insane Nintendrones come to mind.