Tom's Hardware Lists PS Vita Among 20 Worst Failures in Gaming History

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#1 Posted by charizard1605 (82622 posts) -

Leading tech website (apparently) Tom's Hardware has gone ahead and compiled a list of the worst failing systems (consoles and handhelds) in gaming history, a list that is frequented by regulars such as Jaguar, Lynx, CD-i, 3DO, and N-Gage. The kicker? They also list the PS Vita there, calling it a dismal sales failure, and pointing out that mobile games and Sony's obsolete economic model make it unlikely for the system to ever be a success.

Check it out here.

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#2 Posted by Nanomage (2371 posts) -
Not surprising,one of the biggest hardwarwe/tech failures ever and everyone but sony could see it even before release.
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#3 Posted by AgentA-Mi6 (16660 posts) -

Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day or two i hope they enjoy the peak while it lasts, that's how much the article is worth.

The PSPGo was an abomination, Day one and it should be on that list. What was Sony thinking?

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#4 Posted by charizard1605 (82622 posts) -
Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day, thats how much the article is worth.AgentA-Mi6
Even though I call into question their reasoning and/or their credibility just a little... how would you argue it is not a failure?
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#5 Posted by madsnakehhh (16244 posts) -

Vita is a failure? what else is new? the sky is blue?

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#6 Posted by Ghost120x (5229 posts) -
I don't think it's to late for the vita. The ps3 took off when a price drop (slim) model was announced and at this new price it could make third party more optimistic about developing games for the platform. But as it stands, it's a failure right now and Sony better be going full throttle on e3 or else.
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#7 Posted by V3rciS (2236 posts) -

No seriously I can't udnerstand how they come up with this reviews and ratings. Ps Vita is one of the best handhelds ever created... if you'll analyse it's hardware and potential you'll understand! Actually some morons on the internet saying crap like this about Vita was the major cause of it not selling well.

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#8 Posted by SaudiFury (8709 posts) -

Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day or two i hope they enjoy the peak while it lasts, that's how much the article is worth.

The PSPGo was an abomination, Day one and it should be on that list. What was Sony thinking?

AgentA-Mi6
I loved the PSP Go.. just hated how high they charged for it then literally let it die on the vine. --------------- As for "leading tech website Toms Hardware" i lol'd. I mean read that part of the sentence again and think about it. As for Vita being a failure, i think it's safe to say that it MIGHT have a slim chance of finding a stable market, but yes it's so far been a failure.
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#9 Posted by CajunShooter (5276 posts) -
how would you argue it is not a failure?charizard1605
Because it has only just been released. Putting it on a list of failed systems is a little premature
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#10 Posted by Led_poison (10146 posts) -
id buy it if they reduce the price by $100 and reduce the Memory card price by 50%,
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#11 Posted by Ghost120x (5229 posts) -
I don't think it's to late for the vita. The ps3 took off when a price drop (slim) model was announced and at this new price it could make third party more optimistic about developing games for the platform. But as it stands, it's a failure right now and Sony better be going full throttle on e3 or else.Ghost120x
Damn iPad. *too
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#12 Posted by AgentA-Mi6 (16660 posts) -

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day, thats how much the article is worth.charizard1605
Even though I call into question their reasoning and/or their credibility just a little... how would you argue it is not a failure?

Simply put, the vita isn't even a year old in the west, it has every chance in the world of making a comeback in a couple of years and turn fully profitable if Sony plays their cards right, i'm willing to bet Sony will do their best to pull a PS3 with the vita. It's too late for it to give the 3Ds a run for its money in total marketshare most definitely, but a total failure? Absolutely not.

To be fair, i haven't bought one yet because the library offers me nothing i'm desperate to play right now, i waited almost four years on the PSP, the Vita can wait two or perhaps three. I bought my DS for Metroid Prime Hunters and my PSP for Metal Gear Solid Portable ops, the unmissable Vita exclusive i'm waiting for hasn't come out yet I have a hunch its gonna be Killzone Mercenaries.

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#13 Posted by charizard1605 (82622 posts) -
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]how would you argue it is not a failure?CajunShooter
Because it has only just been released. Putting it on a list of failed systems is a little premature

It's a year old, but mostly I agree. Like I said, I don't necessarily agree with the article. It still has time to recover.
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#14 Posted by LittleMac19 (1638 posts) -
*laughs* sounds about right, I'm surprised the Apple Pippin was on there. I thought most people forgot about that abomination.
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#15 Posted by charizard1605 (82622 posts) -

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day, thats how much the article is worth.AgentA-Mi6

Even though I call into question their reasoning and/or their credibility just a little... how would you argue it is not a failure?

Simply put, the vita isn't even a year old in the west, it has every chance in the world of making a comeback in a couple of years and turn fully profitable if Sony plays their cards right, i'm willing to bet Sony will do their best to pull a PS3 with the vita. It's too late for it to give the 3Ds a run for its money in total marketshare most definitely, but a total failure? Absolutely not.

To be fair, i haven't bought one yet because the library offers me nothing i'm desperate to play right now, i waited almost four years on the PSP, the Vita can wait two or perhaps three. I bought my DS for Metroid Prime Hunters and my PSP for Metal Gear Solid Portable ops, the unmissable Vita exclusive i'm waiting for hasn't come out yet I have a hunch its gonna be Killzone Mercenaries.

Okay. I just wanted to know the reasoning. I do not agree with this article myself. As it stands now, yes it is failing in the market, but it is not a conclusive and definite failure yet. Sony can definitely turn the ship around like they did with the PS3. The question now is if they will.
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#16 Posted by AgentA-Mi6 (16660 posts) -

Okay. I just wanted to know the reasoning. I do not agree with this article myself. As it stands now, yes it is failing in the market, but it is not a conclusive and definite failure yet. Sony can definitely turn the ship around like they did with the PS3. The question now is if they will.charizard1605

They refuse to acknowledge what we all know, securing KEY third party exclusives in large numbers will force people to shell out those 250$ for a Vita, if they continue to stubbornly rely entirely on first party exclusives then they have a horrendous uphill battle ahead of them. Third party exclusives paved the road to success for the PS1 and PS2.

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#17 Posted by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -

More gloom and doom. Same thing happened with the PSP and PS3 in their early years.

PS Vita isn't coming off a market leading handheld. The PSP did well for Sony's first handheld but in sales it still got crushed by the DS. The PS Vita is underperforming because once again Sony has relied on power and a price point to high for the general consumer. The PS Vita also didn't have people buying it based on nothing but upcoming releases during it's dry months like the 3DS (This thing was selling buckets in Japan before Mario and Monster Hunter even came out just because they were coming out).

It's not a failure though. If Sony has to discontinue it then it would be a failure.

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#18 Posted by AgentA-Mi6 (16660 posts) -

Leading tech website (apparently)

charizard1605

You chuckled as you typed that didn't you naughty boy?

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#19 Posted by KarateeeChop (4666 posts) -

a system that gets outsold 1 to 10 by the competition is a dead system.

shame on sony for failing to market such a great piece of hardware.

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#20 Posted by 2_Quiet_2_Riot (821 posts) -

Sony seriously needs to lower that price on both the handheld and memory cards. It's ridiculous.

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#21 Posted by charizard1605 (82622 posts) -

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Okay. I just wanted to know the reasoning. I do not agree with this article myself. As it stands now, yes it is failing in the market, but it is not a conclusive and definite failure yet. Sony can definitely turn the ship around like they did with the PS3. The question now is if they will.AgentA-Mi6

They refuse to acknowledge what we all know, KEY third party exclusives in large numbers will force people to shell out those 250$, if they continue to stubbornly rely entirely on first party exclusives then they have a horrendous uphill battle ahead of them. Third party exclusives paved the road to success for the PS1 and PS2.

Basically, yes. Even the PSP's success was secured by games like GTA: Liberty City Stories and Crisis Core, even before it was released. Sony has a core fanbase that really appreciates its first party, but it is a small amount, at most 3-5 million people. Selling the Vita on the appeal of only the first party exclusives will get it nowhere.
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#22 Posted by charizard1605 (82622 posts) -

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Leading tech website (apparently)

AgentA-Mi6

You chuckled as you typed that didn't you naughty boy?

I did. Apparently it's a big website, supposedly Anand Tech's biggest rival, but I've never even heard of them :P
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#23 Posted by V3rciS (2236 posts) -

omg take a look at this

Reasons for failure

Alright, so we're trolling a bit. But there's a kernel of truth to our jest. The PS Vita has some serious advantages. But, for the moment, its sales figures are disastrous, totaling 2.2 million units worldwide as of June 30. Meanwhile, the Nintendo 3DS has sold more than 22 million units. These disappointing results call Sonys economic model into question at a time when games on mobile devices are strongly appealing to mainstream gamers.

Tom wanna be hardware specialist

Now it seems they have a valid reason for puting Vita into a bucket with FAILED HARDWARE. These people are stupid, and you sit here and listen to all the crap they say. No wonder why Vita is selling poorly atm, not because it's hardware sucks or there's a lack of games (a lot of games are announced every day). It sells poorly because there are biased reviews and opinions towards the device! People are reading all this crap on the internet and think "omg VITA sucks".

They say that Vita sucks because 3DS sells better and they don't agree with Sony's marketing policy. Damn that's like the biggest no sense I've read about VIta ever

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#24 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -
[QUOTE="charizard1605"]how would you argue it is not a failure?CajunShooter
Because it has only just been released. Putting it on a list of failed systems is a little premature

We're a year into it's release. Sorry but it hasn't "only just been released."
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#25 Posted by freedomfreak (49811 posts) -
I'd like a Vita. Sony just needs to make me want one. C'mon Sony! Bring the ruckus!
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#26 Posted by FlamesOfGrey (7511 posts) -
[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]how would you argue it is not a failure?Zophar87
Because it has only just been released. Putting it on a list of failed systems is a little premature

We're a year into it's release. Sorry but it hasn't "only just been released."

U.S. and Europe are under 11 months in on a system that should last 5-6 years. It's not "just released" but not much time has passed either.
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#27 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -

omg take a look at this
[quote="Tom wanna be hardware specialist"]

Reasons for failure

Alright, so we're trolling a bit. But there's a kernel of truth to our jest. The PS Vita has some serious advantages. But, for the moment, its sales figures are disastrous, totaling 2.2 million units worldwide as of June 30. Meanwhile, the Nintendo 3DS has sold more than 22 million units. These disappointing results call Sonys economic model into question at a time when games on mobile devices are strongly appealing to mainstream gamers.

V3rciS

Now it seems they have a valid reason for puting Vita into a bucket with FAILED HARDWARE. These people are stupid, and you sit here and listen to all the crap they say. No wonder why Vita is selling poorly atm, not because it's hardware sucks or there's a lack of games (a lot of games are announced every day). It sells poorly because there are biased reviews and opinions towards the device! People are reading all this crap on the internet and think "omg VITA sucks".

They say that Vita sucks because 3DS sells better and they don't agree with Sony's marketing policy. Damn that's like the biggest no sense I've read about VIta ever

That's just it. Sony has no marketing strategy for the device. I haven't seen a single television ad, Internet ad, or even an in-store display/PDQ for the Vita since shortly after the thing launched. Also I'm willing to garauntee that the people of Tom's Hardware know a lot more about what they're saying than you do. I'm not trying to be rude Or hateful to you but I know several individuals who use that website as a resource. Most of the time TH is an amazing resource. I don't agree with the article 100%, but they've at least backed up their facts. The Vita lives in a tablet/phone controlled market and it's no wonder the thing isn't selling. Why spend $250 on the Vita when you can simply get an iPad 2 for only $50 more? Not to mention the Android devices are close to or even cheaper than the Vita in price.
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#28 Posted by V3rciS (2236 posts) -

Ok wtf you guys even argue here over? You want to make up your mind over whether Vita failed or not after like what 10 months on the market?... come on get serious please!

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#29 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -
[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="Zophar87"][QUOTE="CajunShooter"] Because it has only just been released. Putting it on a list of failed systems is a little premature

We're a year into it's release. Sorry but it hasn't "only just been released."

U.S. and Europe are under 11 months in on a system that should last 5-6 years. It's not "just released" but not much time has passed either.

I'm not stating either one, but to say the handheld "just released" is ludicrous.
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#30 Posted by Nanomage (2371 posts) -
[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Leading tech website (apparently)

charizard1605

You chuckled as you typed that didn't you naughty boy?

I did. Apparently it's a big website, supposedly Anand Tech's biggest rival, but I've never even heard of them :P

Tom´s Hardware is huge and has been around for years,and it certainly is one of the biggest and most respected tech sites in the world. On the other hand,I actually never heard of Anand tech,so yeah... :P
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#31 Posted by V3rciS (2236 posts) -

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

omg take a look at this
[quote="Tom wanna be hardware specialist"]

Reasons for failure

Alright, so we're trolling a bit. But there's a kernel of truth to our jest. The PS Vita has some serious advantages. But, for the moment, its sales figures are disastrous, totaling 2.2 million units worldwide as of June 30. Meanwhile, the Nintendo 3DS has sold more than 22 million units. These disappointing results call Sonys economic model into question at a time when games on mobile devices are strongly appealing to mainstream gamers.

Zophar87

Now it seems they have a valid reason for puting Vita into a bucket with FAILED HARDWARE. These people are stupid, and you sit here and listen to all the crap they say. No wonder why Vita is selling poorly atm, not because it's hardware sucks or there's a lack of games (a lot of games are announced every day). It sells poorly because there are biased reviews and opinions towards the device! People are reading all this crap on the internet and think "omg VITA sucks".

They say that Vita sucks because 3DS sells better and they don't agree with Sony's marketing policy. Damn that's like the biggest no sense I've read about VIta ever

That's just it. Sony has no marketing strategy for the device. I haven't seen a single television ad, Internet ad, or even an in-store display/PDQ for the Vita since shortly after the thing launched. Also I'm willing to garauntee that the people of Tom's Hardware know a lot more about what they're saying than you do. I'm not trying to be rude Or hateful to you but I know several individuals who use that website as a resource. Most of the time TH is an amazing resource. I don't agree with the article 100%, but they've at least backed up their facts. The Vita lives in a tablet/phone controlled market and it's no wonder the thing isn't selling. Why spend $250 on the Vita when you can simply get an iPad 2 for only $50 more? Not to mention the Android devices are close to or even cheaper than the Vita in price.

Man please read carefully what they say about VITA. What I quoted are the facts they came up with regarding Vita's failure. Are we serious...?? Bringin up facts like "Okay 3ds sells more that means VITA failed" is not just rediculous but also retarted as hell. After reading this crap on their website... sorry but any respect for their website was vaporized instantly, seems to me like this guys are cluless as ****

PS: "omg look Wii sold more than 360 and Ps3, that means instant WIN... yuppie... we are the champions my friend... "

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#32 Posted by OreoMilkshake (12833 posts) -
Sounds like a porn site.
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#33 Posted by joel_c17 (3206 posts) -
Right up there with the ps3 amiright?
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#34 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zophar87"][QUOTE="V3rciS"]

omg take a look at this
[quote="Tom wanna be hardware specialist"]

Reasons for failure

Alright, so we're trolling a bit. But there's a kernel of truth to our jest. The PS Vita has some serious advantages. But, for the moment, its sales figures are disastrous, totaling 2.2 million units worldwide as of June 30. Meanwhile, the Nintendo 3DS has sold more than 22 million units. These disappointing results call Sonys economic model into question at a time when games on mobile devices are strongly appealing to mainstream gamers.

V3rciS

Now it seems they have a valid reason for puting Vita into a bucket with FAILED HARDWARE. These people are stupid, and you sit here and listen to all the crap they say. No wonder why Vita is selling poorly atm, not because it's hardware sucks or there's a lack of games (a lot of games are announced every day). It sells poorly because there are biased reviews and opinions towards the device! People are reading all this crap on the internet and think "omg VITA sucks".

They say that Vita sucks because 3DS sells better and they don't agree with Sony's marketing policy. Damn that's like the biggest no sense I've read about VIta ever

That's just it. Sony has no marketing strategy for the device. I haven't seen a single television ad, Internet ad, or even an in-store display/PDQ for the Vita since shortly after the thing launched. Also I'm willing to garauntee that the people of Tom's Hardware know a lot more about what they're saying than you do. I'm not trying to be rude Or hateful to you but I know several individuals who use that website as a resource. Most of the time TH is an amazing resource. I don't agree with the article 100%, but they've at least backed up their facts. The Vita lives in a tablet/phone controlled market and it's no wonder the thing isn't selling. Why spend $250 on the Vita when you can simply get an iPad 2 for only $50 more? Not to mention the Android devices are close to or even cheaper than the Vita in price.

Man please read carefully what they say about VITA. What I quoted are the facts they came up with regarding Vita's failure. Are we serious...?? Bringin up facts like "Okay 3ds sells more that means VITA failed" is not just rediculous but also retarted as hell. After reading this crap on their website... sorry but any respect for their website was vaporized instantly, seems to me like this guys are cluless as ****

PS: "omg look Wii sold more than 360 and Ps3, that means instant WIN... yuppie... we are the champions my friend... "

You're joking right? You're comparing the Wii to two consoles that were (for the most part) successful. The Vita simply isn't successful right now. It would be if I went out and compared iPhone to Android phones while we were discussing the Blackberry phones.

I'm not saying I agree completely with the article, but to sit here and try to tell us that Sony shouldn't be greatly concerned for the Vita would simply be lying. They're right in some aspects though; The PSVita should be a lot closer to the 3DS, but it's not. It's being outsold at a rate of 10:1 and that's a serious issue.

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#35 Posted by Lotus-Edge (50439 posts) -

Vita is a failure? what else is new? the sky is blue?

madsnakehhh
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#36 Posted by DarkLink77 (32731 posts) -
[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]I'd like a Vita. Sony just needs to make me want one. C'mon Sony! Bring the ruckus!

Pretty much this. Gravity Rush is enticing, but not $250 enticing.
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#37 Posted by V3rciS (2236 posts) -

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

[QUOTE="Zophar87"] That's just it. Sony has no marketing strategy for the device. I haven't seen a single television ad, Internet ad, or even an in-store display/PDQ for the Vita since shortly after the thing launched. Also I'm willing to garauntee that the people of Tom's Hardware know a lot more about what they're saying than you do. I'm not trying to be rude Or hateful to you but I know several individuals who use that website as a resource. Most of the time TH is an amazing resource. I don't agree with the article 100%, but they've at least backed up their facts. The Vita lives in a tablet/phone controlled market and it's no wonder the thing isn't selling. Why spend $250 on the Vita when you can simply get an iPad 2 for only $50 more? Not to mention the Android devices are close to or even cheaper than the Vita in price.Zophar87

Man please read carefully what they say about VITA. What I quoted are the facts they came up with regarding Vita's failure. Are we serious...?? Bringin up facts like "Okay 3ds sells more that means VITA failed" is not just rediculous but also retarted as hell. After reading this crap on their website... sorry but any respect for their website was vaporized instantly, seems to me like this guys are cluless as ****

PS: "omg look Wii sold more than 360 and Ps3, that means instant WIN... yuppie... we are the champions my friend... "

You're joking right? You're comparing the Wii to two consoles that were (for the most part) successful. The Vita simply isn't successful right now. It would be if I went out and compared iPhone to Android phones while we were discussing the Blackberry phones.

I'm not saying I agree completely with the article, but to sit here and try to tell us that Sony shouldn't be greatly concerned for the Vita would simply be lying. They're right in some aspects though; The PSVita should be a lot closer to the 3DS, but it's not. It's being outsold at a rate of 10:1 and that's a serious issue.

Oh god... THAT'S MY POINT... the people on this website simply come up with wrong conclusion that because 3ds is outselling vita, sony's device automaticaly becomes a fail. Then according to them devices failure also derives from the fact that Sony is doing wrong marketing. Do this arguments sound valid to you? Seriously now... come on you have brains, just tell is that valid? Then I say that this website is simply trolling people and you all go "Oh fvck you it's a legit website and is very popular and only speaks the truth... blah blah".

I am not saying Sony should not be concerned about Vita, the handheld indeed does require a marketing boost, more advertisment etc... but damn, saying that the device failed cause of that is so inaccurate!

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#38 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="V3rciS"]

Man please read carefully what they say about VITA. What I quoted are the facts they came up with regarding Vita's failure. Are we serious...?? Bringin up facts like "Okay 3ds sells more that means VITA failed" is not just rediculous but also retarted as hell. After reading this crap on their website... sorry but any respect for their website was vaporized instantly, seems to me like this guys are cluless as ****

PS: "omg look Wii sold more than 360 and Ps3, that means instant WIN... yuppie... we are the champions my friend... "

V3rciS

You're joking right? You're comparing the Wii to two consoles that were (for the most part) successful. The Vita simply isn't successful right now. It would be if I went out and compared iPhone to Android phones while we were discussing the Blackberry phones.

I'm not saying I agree completely with the article, but to sit here and try to tell us that Sony shouldn't be greatly concerned for the Vita would simply be lying. They're right in some aspects though; The PSVita should be a lot closer to the 3DS, but it's not. It's being outsold at a rate of 10:1 and that's a serious issue.

Oh god... THAT'S MY POINT... the people on this website simply come up with wrong conclusion that because 3ds is outselling vita, sony's device automaticaly becomes a fail. Then according to them devices failure also derives from the fact that Sony is doing wrong marketing. Do this arguments sound valid to you? Seriously now... come on you have brains, just tell is that valid? Then I say that this website is simply trolling people and you all go "Oh fvck you it's a legit website and is very popular and only speaks the truth... blah blah".

I am not saying Sony should not be concerned about Vita, the handheld indeed does require a marketing boost, more advertisment etc... but damn, saying that the device failed cause of that is so inaccurate!

Sony's device is a fail because it's sold 2.2 million units in a year. They're basically saying that it needs to be closer to it's primary competitor, which is very much true. If the PSVita is going to succeed then it needs to at the very least stop being sold at a rate of 10:1 compared to it's strongest competitor. So yes, that sounds very valid to me, it needs to start gaining momentum so they can at least try to start pulling handheld gamers from the 3DS.

Another anology; Imagine you and I go into the Ice Cream business as competitors. You sell ten cones to my one, would I not start to think my business is starting to crumble? Should I not at least try to do something to take away from your ice cream business?

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#39 Posted by finalfantasy94 (27389 posts) -

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day, thats how much the article is worth.charizard1605
Even though I call into question their reasoning and/or their credibility just a little... how would you argue it is not a failure?

The system isint dead and hasint even been out for that long and still has games coming.

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#40 Posted by Zophar87 (4344 posts) -

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Laughable, i'm glad they got their extra traffic for a day, thats how much the article is worth.finalfantasy94

Even though I call into question their reasoning and/or their credibility just a little... how would you argue it is not a failure?

The system isint dead and hasint even been out for that long and still has games coming.

I agree, it's not dead.

However, by the time the 3DS was a year old, it already had several games on it that made the price of admission seem worth it. Also, Nintendo had slashed the price to $160 which made things a lot easier.

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#41 Posted by Valiant_Rebel (4197 posts) -

It's really out of taste to put a system on a list of "crashed and burned" systems when it hasn't crashed or burned yet. That's what you call impatient. In 2006 - 2007, you could have said the same thing about the PS3, but look where it is now. A new Vita model alone could make all the difference in the world.

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#43 Posted by trollop_scat (2656 posts) -

Tom's Hardware is a great tech website, I dunno why you guys are dissing them. Oh yeah, you're all console kiddies who can't make sense of their PC hardware articles.

Anyway, the Vita is a failure for one simple reason - I don't want one. There isn't a single must-have game yet and it costs as much as a real console. I'll probably wind up buying a 3DS for Mario Kart, Castlevania, and Resident Evil Revelations. Maybe if the Vita got an exclusive Souls game, or came out with a brand new horror themed IP that got great reviews. Neither will happen though so there's nothing to get excited about over the Vita...

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#44 Posted by tarzanell (1503 posts) -

[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Even though I call into question their reasoning and/or their credibility just a little... how would you argue it is not a failure?Zophar87

The system isint dead and hasint even been out for that long and still has games coming.

I agree, it's not dead.

However, by the time the 3DS was a year old, it already had several games on it that made the price of admission seem worth it. Also, Nintendo had slashed the price to $160 which made things a lot easier.

Wrong. By the time it was a year old, the 3DS had OOT. That's it. I won't argue about the price though, the drop was what convinced me to buy one.
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#45 Posted by AmnesiaHaze (5685 posts) -

3ds was longer out than vita of course it sold more , and it didnt have almost any good games at all the first year , well except zelda (N64 port) , i was considering to get 3ds but there was no games that interested me since i had a N64 to play zelda so i waited for vita which was almost ready to launch, i quickly browsed through the 3DS games offer in my local store and compared with vita and there are lots more interesting titles on vita imo now (its subjective tho). if the vita is a failure the 3ds i just the same failure , because i dont care about some sales, but the games i can play

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#46 Posted by V3rciS (2236 posts) -

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You're joking right? You're comparing the Wii to two consoles that were (for the most part) successful. The Vita simply isn't successful right now. It would be if I went out and compared iPhone to Android phones while we were discussing the Blackberry phones.

I'm not saying I agree completely with the article, but to sit here and try to tell us that Sony shouldn't be greatly concerned for the Vita would simply be lying. They're right in some aspects though; The PSVita should be a lot closer to the 3DS, but it's not. It's being outsold at a rate of 10:1 and that's a serious issue.

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Oh god... THAT'S MY POINT... the people on this website simply come up with wrong conclusion that because 3ds is outselling vita, sony's device automaticaly becomes a fail. Then according to them devices failure also derives from the fact that Sony is doing wrong marketing. Do this arguments sound valid to you? Seriously now... come on you have brains, just tell is that valid? Then I say that this website is simply trolling people and you all go "Oh fvck you it's a legit website and is very popular and only speaks the truth... blah blah".

I am not saying Sony should not be concerned about Vita, the handheld indeed does require a marketing boost, more advertisment etc... but damn, saying that the device failed cause of that is so inaccurate!

Sony's device is a fail because it's sold 2.2 million units in a year. They're basically saying that it needs to be closer to it's primary competitor, which is very much true. If the PSVita is going to succeed then it needs to at the very least stop being sold at a rate of 10:1 compared to it's strongest competitor. So yes, that sounds very valid to me, it needs to start gaining momentum so they can at least try to start pulling handheld gamers from the 3DS.

Another anology; Imagine you and I go into the Ice Cream business as competitors. You sell ten cones to my one, would I not start to think my business is starting to crumble? Should I not at least try to do something to take away from your ice cream business?

fair enough but that doesn't mean that your Ice cream is sh1t... it might actually be even better than mine but I happen to have a better advertisment, a cheaper price and simply know how to trick people into buying my sh1tty ice cream. Does that mean that you're perfect Ice cream is a failure? Nope... if people can't distict good from bad and still buying crap that's their fault. One who posses he will understand that Vita is a good piece of hardware and will eventually get one. Thus points such as that 3ds sold more units are not valid at all, we're not judging who's doing the marketing... we're judging who's offering the best device. I could care less how much profit Sony made out of Vita's

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#47 Posted by D4W1L4H (1765 posts) -

Surprised that a lot of people here haven't heard about Tom's Hardware. :o I mean, you must've at least stumbled upon their forum while Google searching solutions to a PC problem.

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#48 Posted by abuabed (6606 posts) -
I'll eventually get one, It just needs a few more games imo
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#49 Posted by caryslan2 (2426 posts) -

It should be noted that the 3DS and Playstation 3 would have made that list as well during their first year on the marketplace since both of those systems were sluggish out of the gate and had difficulty selling. Yeah, the 3DS is selling well now, but people seem to forget that it had a horrible time in the early months that it was on the market. A lack of major games(barring the OOT remake), a price point that most people were not willing to pay, and a system that offered people little incentive to upgrade were things the 3DS suffered from in its first few months on the marketplace

You know, that sounds kinda like the Vita whern you stop and think about it.

The 3DS rebounded due to a price drop that came very early in the system's lifespan and having key games like Super Mario 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 rushed to the market to help the systems during the holiday season. Yeah, it's a success now but people seem to have a short term memory on this issue. Which makes the push to bury the Vita and declare it dead even funnier. The 3DS only turned things around after a price drop and the arrival of key games. The head of Nintendo openly apologized about the 3DS's sluggish sales and Nintendo lost some money because of how the 3DS was handled during its launch period.

And that's what everyone needs to keep in mind. The 3DS was in the same boat as the Vita during its early lifespan. Who's to say the Vita can't rebound like the 3DS if the system also gets a price drop on its hardware and memory cards? Hell, who to say a killer app is not in the works that will drive Vita sales?

What has always made this "LOL Vita is dead!" argument funny is that most people convenitly forget how poorly the 3DS did during its first months on the marketplace. Nintendo turned it around, but I wonder what would had happened had Nintendo not dropped the price of the hardware. Would we be discussing the 3DS' future and its place as a failure?

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#50 Posted by AM-Gamer (8116 posts) -

Considering they admit they are trolling in there article I wont take the bait, but the fact is the PS Vita really hasnt sold much worse then the PS3 in its first year and look where the PS3 is now? Almost 7 years later and over 75 million sold. Once the PS4 becomes Sonys priority I think you will see development move to the PS4 and alot of devs who had PS3 games will move those to the Vita. Once the system gets a price drop they will be good to go.