Todd Howard jelly Fallout New Vegas is the best in the series, so Obsidian will never make another Fallout.

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#1 Ant_17
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/bethesda-is-less-likely-to-allow-an-outside-studio/1100-6460518/

"I wouldn't say never," Howard said. "[But] now that our company is so big, it's always better to keep stuff internal ... it becomes less likely, but I could never say never. I thought the Obsidian guys did a fabulous job."

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#2  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@Ant_17: Reading comprehension get some.

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#3 Juub1990
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@i_p_daily: He’s being facetious. Pretty obvious no?

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#4 Ant_17
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@Juub1990 said:

@i_p_daily: He’s being facetious. Pretty obvious no?

If he didn't get it, he won't get that word either.

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#5 The_Stand_In
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Bad news. Very sad to hear. Obsidian knows how to write good stories, unlike BSG, and the New Vegas plot-line was interesting. Looks like it might be dead though...

Moreover, Fallout 3 is so broken on PC these days it's actually more stable to mod it into Fallout New Vegas and play it within the slightly more updated/modern FNV Gamebryo engine. You can travel between the Capital and Mojave wastelands at will with both games' weapons and armors integrated into the leveled lists. Best part is, you can still mod the modded game with mods from both Fallout 3 and New Vegas. And people give crap to FNV for being unstable and buggy... Probably because they played it on a *shivers* console.

Fallout 4... was a decent shooter with nice customization elements, but it was no Fallout game. That's all I'm going to say about it.

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#6 deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@Juub1990 said:

@i_p_daily: He’s being facetious. Pretty obvious no?

Are you sure? it is SW after all lol.

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I'm going to say it (because apparently, it's a crime on the internet to say it), I don't hate Todd Howard's take on Fallout. I actually like what he's done. Maybe it's because I'm an FO noob that didn't start until one of the recent games (which is ironically, not developed by Howard's team), but I don't care. That said, it is disappointing that, for now at least, there is no Obsidian Fallout anytime soon as New Vegas is what got me into the franchise. And besides, I'm not sure it's just him making these decisions either.

Though, in that same article rooted from the Guardian, I got to give him credit for this in regards to Skyrim and politics of today:

“People look at Skyrim and say, ‘That’s a dragon-killing power fantasy,’ but the actual underlying theme was: do you take a nationalistic view of your own country, or look at the whole world? I think that’s still pretty topical today,”

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#8 Ant_17
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@nintendoboy16: So you're ok with the series becoming an online MMO type game?

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#9 nintendoboy16
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@Ant_17: It's technically a spinoff. Like if I were to get mad that Mario, Sonic, and Link fight and drive.

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I’m fine with this myself.

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#11  Edited By deactivated-6068afec1b77d
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@nintendoboy16: Duuude! Me too. I started on Fallout New Vegas..and though fallout 4 was good..

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#12 SOedipus
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Good, if there is another dev out there that can overtake Bethesda in bugs, it’s Obsidian. Good riddance.

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#13 speedfreak48t5p
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That doesn't quite sound like what you are making it sound like. Never say never and he said he thinks they did a fabulous job. Not likely anytime soon, but not necessary never again either.

Also, **** it. Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 were still fun as hell. Haters gonna hate.

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#14 Ant_17
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@Ant_17: It's technically a spinoff. Like if I were to get mad that Mario, Sonic, and Link fight and drive.

Fallout 76? I don't mind the game, that nuking mechanic looks fun, which i'm sure won't be abused at all/sarcasm

But would have liked a New Vegas 2.

And people get mad that Sonic doesn't run in his racing games.

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@The_Stand_In said:

Bad news. Very sad to hear. Obsidian knows how to write good stories, unlike BSG, and the New Vegas plot-line was interesting. Looks like it might be dead though...

Moreover, Fallout 3 is so broken on PC these days it's actually more stable to mod it into Fallout New Vegas and play it within the slightly more updated/modern FNV Gamebryo engine. You can travel between the Capital and Mojave wastelands at will with both games' weapons and armors integrated into the leveled lists. Best part is, you can still mod the modded game with mods from both Fallout 3 and New Vegas. And people give crap to FNV for being unstable and buggy... Probably because they played it on a *shivers* console.

Fallout 4... was a decent shooter with nice customization elements, but it was no Fallout game. That's all I'm going to say about it.

What's the broken part of Fallout 3? I have the Steam GOTY Edition. Apart from requiring xlive.dll for it to run, I didn't experience any crash or hiccup from start to finish. My main gripe with Fallout 3 is cosmetic which is the butt-ugly, green-tinted graphics. There's no excuse for it even back in 2008.

I have the GoG version of Fallout: New Vegas Ultimate Edition. It too runs fine without incident. I'm nearing the end of its storyline (got interrupted by Far Cry 5). So far, it's been very stable. My main gripe with it is also the outdated graphics although it looks a bit better than Fallout 3.

At this late stage, I think both games are quite stable although I'd pick the GoG version of each because GoG is usually good at fixing glitches that Steam doesn't. Plus, no DRM is always good.

I'm probably one of the few who liked Fallout 4 better than New Vegas. So, Obsidian not making another Fallout game is not a big deal. But, it wouldn't surprise me if Obsidian acted in a consulting role while the Bethesda folks did the actual coding.

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Chris Avellone doesn't work at Obsidian anymore. Plus, Obsidian is too busy doing their own thing (aka Pillars of Eternity).

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@hiphops_savior said:

Chris Avellone doesn't work at Obsidian anymore. Plus, Obsidian is too busy doing their own thing (aka Pillars of Eternity).

No, but there's still Josh Sawyer. And Leonard Boyarsky. And Tim Cain.

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All I want and ask for from Obsidian in Alpha Protocol 2

THAT game did choices/ consequences and repercussions WAY better than any of the Mass Effect could think of with the only difference being that Mass Effect had the bigger budget which made it more graphically refined and polished etc

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@demon-returns said:

All I want and ask for from Obsidian in Alpha Protocol 2

THAT game did choices/ consequences and repercussions WAY better than any of the Mass Effect could think of with the only difference being that Mass Effect had the bigger budget which made it more graphically refined and polished etc

Too bad Sega owns it and has no intention of making a sequel. Obsidian is now focused on building their own IPs. Unless Obsidian buys Alpha Protocol IP off of Sega, we're probably not going to hear of it.

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@hiphops_savior said:
@demon-returns said:

All I want and ask for from Obsidian in Alpha Protocol 2

THAT game did choices/ consequences and repercussions WAY better than any of the Mass Effect could think of with the only difference being that Mass Effect had the bigger budget which made it more graphically refined and polished etc

Too bad Sega owns it and has no intention of making a sequel. Obsidian is now focused on building their own IPs. Unless Obsidian buys Alpha Protocol IP off of Sega, we're probably not going to hear of it.

Sega's going to sit on the IP and do nothing with it, like they do with most of their IPs. However, Sega does sometimes loan out their IPs to other companies that pay, like with Shenmue (to YS Net) and Bayonetta (to Nintendo).

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#21 Lotus-Edge
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NV best? Says who?

And why are they wrong?

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@SOedipus: Blame that shitty engine which is courtesy of Bethesda.

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#23 Litchie
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I did not like Fallout 4. Gameplay was OK. Graphics were so so. Story was crap. Dialogues were crap. Missions were crap. Under my 30 or so hours I spend with the game before giving up, there's only one quest I remember doing. One. Whole game felt very lazy. If Fallout 5 would be like 4, I'll probably never play another Fallout game. I'd love to try a new one from Obsidian, though. I've heard they're good with stories.

So to me, this is bad news. I think Obsidian is way better than Bethesda at making a Fallout game.

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#24 thehig1
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I just want another single player fallout game, not bothered who makes it

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#25 lamprey263
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That's fine, Fallout New Vegas is my least favorite of the modern Fallout games.

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Interesting to see crazed fanboys twist his words. The man compliments the game, said NEVER SAY NEVER, and then goes on to give a good explanation as to why they won't do it right now.

And people claim this is him being jealous or salty. WHAT?

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@thehig1 said:

I just want another single player fallout game, not bothered who makes it

Considering us Skyrim fans have to wait an eternity for VI...and you fall out fans just got 4.

Elderscrolls First, Fallout can wait.

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#28 Ant_17
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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Interesting to see crazed fanboys twist his words. The man compliments the game, said NEVER SAY NEVER, and then goes on to give a good explanation as to why they won't do it right now.

And people claim this is him being jealous or salty. WHAT?

I can see comedy is a lost cause on you...

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#31 drummerdave9099
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I played Fallout 3 two years ago- main quest, all dlc's, handful of sidequests

I'm playing NV for the first time now.

They're both fun, creepy, interesting and addicting games. NV definitely has the deeper RPG elements which make the game deeper.