TLOU2 will do a MGS2 and switch Ellie for her lover.

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#1 AJStyles
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I am calling it now. Naughty Dog has been pushing hard with pro SJW values. I predict the segments playing as Joel or Ellie will be incredibly short and all the footage shown is from the start of the game.

Ellie will most likely die early on at the hands of Joel(who you also control briefly). Then you play as the black female who gets revenge on Joel for the rest of the game.

They will swerve us and the main character will be Ellie’s lover in that one trailer. I forget her name and I am not googling it lol.

It fits well for what Naughty Dog wants to push as a company. The main star being a strong gay black woman.

I personally have no issue with who the main character is.

This would allow the player to experience multiple feels and loss.

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#2  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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No, I think the SJW writer cares more about his lesbian statement than racial minorities, so the story will be about Ellie. I mean, he started that first trailer with a lesbian kiss, which never happens for heterosexual characters in trailers, which tells you how hard he is trying to push that.

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The girlfriend will be dead within the first 20 minutes.

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If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

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But her nose is fucking massive.

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#6 deactivated-5ebea105efb64
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So.

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That's game of thrones season 8 level disaster writing :P.

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#8 Zero_epyon
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@fedor said:

The girlfriend will be dead within the first 20 minutes.

This. Just like what happened with Tess.

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@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

Also this. Holy crap other kinds of people exist. Don't they realize this?

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#10  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

Also this. Holy crap other kinds of people exist. Don't they realize this?

I like the movie Bound by the Wachowskis. It's a noir thriller about two lesbian lovers who try to rip off the one's mobster boyfriend. They happen to be lesbians, but the movie doesn't feel like it's pushing any agenda, because they remembered to make it fun and the lesbian relationship ties well into the plot. I don't have a problem with homosexuality. It's just embarrassing when someone like Druckmann insists you care about such subjects, opening his trailer with it, like it's the most important thing in a zombie apocalypse.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

Also this. Holy crap other kinds of people exist. Don't they realize this?

I like the movie Bound by the Wachowskis. It's a noir thriller about two lesbian lovers who try to rip off the one's mobster boyfriend. They happen to be lesbians, but the movie doesn't feel like it's pushing any agenda, because they remembered to make it fun and the lesbian relationship ties well into the plot. I don't have a problem with homosexuality. It's just embarrassing when someone like Druckmann insists you care about such subjects, opening his trailer with it, like it's the most important thing in a zombie apocalypse.

I like Once Upon A Time In The West, it has cool music and I like the part when Charlie Bronson subtly gives a smile in the final showdown, really glad it was him and not Clint Eastwood again.

No lesbians anywhere, but still really good.

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Imagine caring whether your video game character is black or lesbian.

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@fedor: That's possible but Naughty Dog has a history of being intentionally misleading in their trailers. It could go either way. I can't wait to play it! ?

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#14  Edited By deactivated-60113e7859d7d
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@uninspiredcup said:
@ezekiel43 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

Also this. Holy crap other kinds of people exist. Don't they realize this?

I like the movie Bound by the Wachowskis. It's a noir thriller about two lesbian lovers who try to rip off the one's mobster boyfriend. They happen to be lesbians, but the movie doesn't feel like it's pushing any agenda, because they remembered to make it fun and the lesbian relationship ties well into the plot. I don't have a problem with homosexuality. It's just embarrassing when someone like Druckmann insists you care about such subjects, opening his trailer with it, like it's the most important thing in a zombie apocalypse.

I like Once Upon A Time In The West, it has cool music and I like the part when Charlie Bronson subtly gives a smile in the final showdown, really glad it was him and not Clint Eastwood again.

No lesbians anywhere, but still really good.

Since we're talking about nothing now, what's wrong with the PC version of Double Agent?

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#15 uninspiredcup
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@ezekiel43: Aside from the obvious barley working port

  • No light/sound meter using a Dead Space minimalist UI of "on/off" which is terrible for Splinter Cell
  • JBA missions with forced cinematic walking
  • Gadgets are unlocked through JBA missions and some basically remove gameplay like lockpicking (not optional)
  • Large open levels (which sounds good, but it isn't)
  • Scripted "press X here" moments in a bad attempt to amp the game up and trite attempts at decision making
  • Many missions take place during the day

It's not completely bad, Shanhai is a really, really good level and compared to "Conviction", it is at least a Spinter Cell game. The weakest one, but still but part of that DNA and not just an action game with the name thrown on it.

The Xbox/GC/PS2 version is superior, almost as good as Chaos Theory. Final level is boss and has the single best Sam Fisher moment in the series.

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Compare that manual, integrated into the gameplay stuff with those shitty out of place "you most choooose" in the next-gen version.

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Again, it's not wholly terrible. Just the worst in the main series. Conviction isn't a Splinter Cell game.



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#17  Edited By MirkoS77
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Test

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Nah, you will play as Ellie and kill Joel cause he turned ferral, cause he was a raider in the past.

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@Zero_epyon: I’m disabled. Where’s my representation in games? People must realize that I exist too, right?

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Are you saying that Snake and Raiden were lovers? ?

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I guess everyone will find out when it hits cinemas next year.

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#22  Edited By deactivated-6068afec1b77d
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Plot Twist

The girlfriend is actually trans

The SWJs are going to be so ashamed of themselves that they where misappropriating the trans person.

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@ezekiel43 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

Also this. Holy crap other kinds of people exist. Don't they realize this?

I like the movie Bound by the Wachowskis. It's a noir thriller about two lesbian lovers who try to rip off the one's mobster boyfriend. They happen to be lesbians, but the movie doesn't feel like it's pushing any agenda, because they remembered to make it fun and the lesbian relationship ties well into the plot. I don't have a problem with homosexuality. It's just embarrassing when someone like Druckmann insists you care about such subjects, opening his trailer with it, like it's the most important thing in a zombie apocalypse.

Well Ellie is a lesbian. And she has a significant other. How is that not important in a zombie apocalypse? Would we be having this conversation if it was Joel kissing a woman in the trailer? Would you say, "ugh why do they have to open a trailer with Joel kissing a chick? What does that have to do with the Zombie apocalypse?" 100% not.

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@MirkoS77 said:

@Zero_epyon: I’m disabled. Where’s my representation in games? People must realize that I exist too, right?

https://www.svg.com/117982/disabled-video-game-characters/

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@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

I'm not white, so none of this SJW stuff bothers me :)

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@Zero_epyon said:
@MirkoS77 said:

@Zero_epyon: I’m disabled. Where’s my representation in games? People must realize that I exist too, right?

https://www.svg.com/117982/disabled-video-game-characters/

You don't get it. The next 007 will be a black woman. That's nice for black people, I guess. What about me? Why is James Bond not a below average height half-German, half-Peruvian browny mix like me? Someone pander to me! Represent me! Speaking seriously, I don't mind that 007 is a white man. I don't see any reason to change that. I bet minorities give way less of a damn than SJW like Neil Druckmann.

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Well Ellie is a lesbian. And she has a significant other. How is that not important in a zombie apocalypse? Would we be having this conversation if it was Joel kissing a woman in the trailer? Would you say, "ugh why do they have to open a trailer with Joel kissing a chick? What does that have to do with the Zombie apocalypse?" 100% not.

That would never happen, which is the point. They would never open a survival horror trailer with a straight kiss, because it isn't that important when you consider what else is going on in that world. Plenty of other ways to contrast that with tenderness. Druckmann is making a big deal about this when it could have just been like whatever. It's embarrassing. I would roll my eyes if I was a lesbian. Makes you wonder if his gay rights statement is more important to him than the plot. He's always been a weak writer.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@MirkoS77 said:

@Zero_epyon: I’m disabled. Where’s my representation in games? People must realize that I exist too, right?

https://www.svg.com/117982/disabled-video-game-characters/

Yeah, but none of those are about MY disability, damnit!

Where's my ball?

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@Pedro said:

If it's not a straight white male its political aka SJW. ?

Yep...

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@fedor said:

The girlfriend will be dead within the first 20 minutes.

We can only hope.

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#32  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@uninspiredcup said:

But her nose is fucking massive.

That's just mean, she was modeled after a real life actress for the game.

Really don't like looking at a ugly people. We see them real-life everyday and they just bring you down. Video games is not the place for them unless they are a villain, humans intrinsically associate unappealing visuals with evil.

If they want to be really woke cast her as a female penguin or something.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@MirkoS77 said:

@Zero_epyon: I’m disabled. Where’s my representation in games? People must realize that I exist too, right?

https://www.svg.com/117982/disabled-video-game-characters/

Yeah, but none of those are about MY disability, damnit!

Where's my ball?

What's your disability?

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@ezekiel43 said:
@Zero_epyon said:
@MirkoS77 said:

@Zero_epyon: I’m disabled. Where’s my representation in games? People must realize that I exist too, right?

https://www.svg.com/117982/disabled-video-game-characters/

You don't get it. The next 007 will be a black woman. That's nice for black people, I guess. What about me? Why is James Bond not a below average height half-German, half-Peruvian browny mix like me? Someone pander to me! Represent me! Speaking seriously, I don't mind that 007 is a white man. I don't see any reason to change that. I bet minorities give way less of a damn than SJW like Neil Druckmann.

@Zero_epyon said:

Well Ellie is a lesbian. And she has a significant other. How is that not important in a zombie apocalypse? Would we be having this conversation if it was Joel kissing a woman in the trailer? Would you say, "ugh why do they have to open a trailer with Joel kissing a chick? What does that have to do with the Zombie apocalypse?" 100% not.

That would never happen, which is the point. They would never open a survival horror trailer with a straight kiss, because it isn't that important when you consider what else is going on in that world. Plenty of other ways to contrast that with tenderness. Druckmann is making a big deal about this when it could have just been like whatever. It's embarrassing. I would roll my eyes if I was a lesbian. Makes you wonder if his gay rights statement is more important to him than the plot. He's always been a weak writer.

Oh geez. How about we let the creators of these characters do whatever the heck they want with their IPs. Again, if they showed Joel moving on and settling down and trying to be happy then cut to him slaughtering an enemy, bathed in his blood, no one would have batted an eye. You guys are trying to read so much into that scene that you don't realize that the people of The Last of Us live in this massive gray area. You can love, but you still have to be capable of murder.

How about we ask actual lesbians how they felt? I guarantee you they had no issues with it. You can't speak for lesbians while not being one.

Some people man. Have no issue with guts being spilled, heads being impaled with axes, and arms broken with hammers, but ugh *eye roll* at two women kissing. Seriously grow up.

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@livingdeadman said:
@uninspiredcup said:

But her nose is fucking massive.

That's just mean, she was modeled after a real life actress for the game.

Gamers: We want realism

Also gamers: Not that real...

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Meh. My point still stands.

I am not upset or whatever you guys are suggesting. I don’t care who the main character is.

I am just telling you it’s going to be a bait and switch like MGS2 lol

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#37  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@Telekill said:

Are you saying that Snake and Raiden were lovers? ?

If it was only true... That would be hilarious to see the "fan" reaction to that.

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@ajstyles: 'Naughty Dog has been pushing hard with pro SJW values'.

I know this will be a shock to you, but they are allowed to include characters that don't look like you or share your bigotry. Terrifying I know, you precious little snowflake.


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I hope there's alot of lesbian zombie action!

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@biggest_loser: I know this is a shock to you but I have stated several times that I have no issue with playing as a black female character. The main character does not bother me at all in the slightest.

All I am saying is Naughty Dog will do it for X reason.

Please learn reading comprehension.

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I doubt it. Also, I don't see them pushing SJW "hard."

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@ajstyles said:

@biggest_loser: I know this is a shock to you but I have stated several times that I have no issue with playing as a black female character. The main character does not bother me at all in the slightest.

All I am saying is Naughty Dog will do it for X reason.

Please learn reading comprehension.

'I have stated several times that I have no issue with playing as a black female character'.

Aw what a sensitive little snowflake you must be then! Hahah!