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#51 k2theswiss
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pretty sure A lot of MP games update playlist quite a bit...

and yes game modes do die! It can become pretty hard find games on not so populated game modes in any game

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#52 R4gn4r0k
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@sts106mat said:

I like all the game modes, LTS being my least favourite i guess. I also like hardpoint & pilot hunter.

you can understand them launching the patch with the DLC, but removing the modes...i dunno why.

At least with the xbox one, when i played the DLC, there was a Expedition variety mode, which was a mix of all modes, but solely on the new maps. I believe they are adding an attrition only mode to expedition aswell which is good, since that is my favourite.

If there is enough of a backlash from PC gamers, they'll probably add it back in.

I personally think they have been great so far, remind me of bungie / 343.

forgot about 2vs2, need to try that.

I played it today and for the DLC there was indeed one Variety game mode and one attrition game mode.

Perhaps that is also what this thread is doing: creating some backlash. But most of all I'm not okay with removing something people paid for.

I've been playing CTF since the early days of online FPS and I really think CTF in Titanfall was quite original because of the titans, the wall running and the ziplines. Titans could be used strategically as well as many other things.

If Respawn fixes the issues people are having as well as continue to improve the game, by adding extra loadouts for example, than people will return and more people buy the game. But if you scrap the game modes, you don't allow people to make those game modes popular again.

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#54 uninspiredcup
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@k2theswiss said:

pretty sure A lot of MP games update playlist quite a bit...

and yes game modes do die! It can become pretty hard find games on not so populated game modes in any game

In the old days (when gaming was good) pc gamers such as myself played titles like Quake 3. In it, people created servers.

Within those servers you could do cool things like use mods and cast votes for server rotation, gamemode and rule sets.

Then consoles appeared.

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#55  Edited By delta3074
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The y have not cut any content at all, they just moved it somewhere else, thats what i am getting from this.

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#57 donalbane
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I never played pilot hunter, and I only played CTF once, but this is still surprising news.

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#58  Edited By mems_1224
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Meh, no one plays Pilot Hunter on PC. I could never find a game in that mode.

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#59  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@sts106mat said:

I like CTF in most other FPS games and with titanfall it certainly is different. I tend to play for a couple of hours at a time and unlike all the other modes, CTF can either be great fun, or no fun at all. If you are on a team who aren't really working together, it sucks big time, because you need people to have your back more than anyother mode.

I find it frustrating sometimes, where i will make my way to the enemy base, drop my titan right outside, grab the flag and rush back to our base, only to find our flag is missing so i cannot score......either that....or there is a turd repeatedly camping in our base who shoots you....that is the lowest of the fucking low man.

The BAD games of CTF suck so bad, that it puts me off playing that mode.

Well, I saw some people who were really good on their own because they really made full use of their titan or knew the maps & routes really well.

I used to play it a lot with a mate and it's good when you're with two. I just don't know 11 people to play it with :(

@mems_1224 said:

Meh, no one plays Pilot Hunter on PC. I could never find a game in that mode.

I didn't see the point in Pilot Hunter. It was basically Attrition with some different point system.

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#60 R4gn4r0k
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@k2theswiss said:

pretty sure A lot of MP games update playlist quite a bit...

and yes game modes do die! It can become pretty hard find games on not so populated game modes in any game

Hasn't been the case of any multiplayer games I play. Like none, this is the first.

So I'm really surprised by this.

Wouldn't care as much if they replaced it with 2 other (free) game modes, but no, the modes are just gone and in its place is DLC Variety and DLC Attrition...

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#61  Edited By deactivated-583e460ca986b
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So if the 2 modes can still be played in private and variety playlists how were they "removed"?

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#63  Edited By mems_1224
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@mems_1224 said:

Meh, no one plays Pilot Hunter on PC. I could never find a game in that mode.

I didn't see the point in Pilot Hunter. It was basically Attrition with some different point system.

You get more kills in Pilot Hunter since bots and Titan kills don't count towards the score. It was basically a mode for the babies crying about bots.

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#64  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@mems_1224: @sts106mat:

I see, but too me it was much to similar to Attrition because I never really cared if someone got 30-40 bots kills in Attrition, what mattered to me more were objective points(like CTF and Hardpoint) and K/D vs regular players.

@GoldenElementXL said:

So if the 2 modes can still be played in private and variety playlists how were they "removed"?

Yes, there used to be a bunch of game modes. Now there are two less gamemodes.

I don't see how if you want to play CTF or Pilot Hunter you would go play Variety. There's only a one in 5 chance you get to play the gamemode you want to play. How is that an alternative :/

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@aroxx_ab said:

How can they remove content... o.O

All thats left is a blank disc.

a blank disc has more content than infamous.

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#66 PurpleMan5000
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I haven't played Titanfall in over a month now, anyway.

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#67 Heil68
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@freedomfreak said:

@sts106mat said:

They can still play those modes in private matches or variety pack.

Respawn say that they cut it because PC players dont use the modes enough. there is no other reason to cut it... If its not used enough, removing it will stop people going in to those lobbies and being unable to find a match.

I personally stick to the attrition and variety.

They have promised additional modes are incoming (for free)

I'm not even counting variety pack, because that is not the same. And private matches only? C'mon..

It's just lame to cut content for it, even if it doesn't attract a lot of players. Refer to my COD comment. They don't pull this stuff.

Respawn is getting rid of content people paid for.

That does seem lame, even though all I play it attrition.

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#68  Edited By nutcrackr
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Pilot Hunter, don't care.

CTF though, that was a decent mode. Even with Titans picking up flags it still had quite fun strategy elements and defensive / offensive groupings. Moving it to variety pack must be because lack of players.

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#69 R4gn4r0k
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

I haven't played Titanfall in over a month now, anyway.

I'm sure a lot of people quit. I haven't played in the last month either. But I was going to check out the game today, only to find out they had removed game modes.

They should try and lure people back in, not this.

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#70 lawlessx
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Pilot Hunter gone? guess i can finally uninstall then.

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#71  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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That game just sounds worse and worse....

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sounds like they are dumbing down the PC version so everyone plays it on the superior ONE version.

792p 30fps bad textures, superior indeed.

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#73  Edited By PyratRum
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Removing content? It's a fucking playlist.

Been spending most of my time playing CTF the last two weeks but if the player count is low then player count is low. No point in arguing against facts. Games do this all the time (see Halo).

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#74  Edited By Cubs360
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@R4gn4r0k: you're an idiot...they did it to add new game modes.

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#75  Edited By sibu_xgamer
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I never expect much from games like this. These type of games really don't aim very high in standards both in gameplay or support. I guess the audience who consumes these types of games is not very demanding either quality-wise.

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#76  Edited By bobbetybob
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@freedomfreak said:

Yeah, cut content from a multiplayer-only game.

Weaksauce, Respawn.

Exactly what I was going to say, it's stupid to remove 2 game modes from a game which only has like 6-ish to begin with.

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#77 RR360DD
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LOL what a stupid thread. This has been going on for years and years.

I remember so many playlists being cut and added in halo 2 just because some simply weren't popular enough.

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#78 R4gn4r0k
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@pyratrum said:

Removing content? It's a fucking playlist.

Been spending most of my time playing CTF the last two weeks but if the player count is low then player count is low. No point in arguing against facts. Games do this all the time (see Halo).

We don't know what they mean with low player counts. Could be a couple of thousand, could be a hundred could be two people still playing the game;

Could be the gamemode died out on their US server and in other regions it was still popular.

@Cubs360 said:

@R4gn4r0k: you're an idiot...

@RR360DD said:

LOL what a stupid thread.

Thanks. I do my best ;)

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#79  Edited By Animal-Mother
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@MBirdy88 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@aroxx_ab said:

How can they remove content... o.O

All thats left is a blank disc.

a blank disc has more content than infamous.

And somehow it was the best selling next gen game of april.

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#80  Edited By Wanderer5
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Eh might suck (they not really removing them from the game per say through), but can't say I liked CTF from the few matches I tried of it.

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#81 Dire_Weasel
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Huh. That's too bad, I like both those game modes.

Oh ... but they're still available in Variety Pack, which is the lobby I play from. I'm Ok with this.

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#82 Couth_
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lol @sts106mat responding to every single post.. such damage control

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#83  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@IgGy621985 said:

Glad I didn't buy that piece of shit.

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#84  Edited By Crypt_mx
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@Krelian-co said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sounds like they are dumbing down the PC version so everyone plays it on the superior ONE version.

792p 30fps bad textures, superior indeed.

Game runs between 30-60 fps will textures that almost mirror the PC version, only real difference is resolution which is getting patched at some point.

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#85  Edited By wis3boi
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@IgGy621985 said:

Glad I didn't buy that piece of shit.

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#86  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Crypt_mx said:

@Krelian-co said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sounds like they are dumbing down the PC version so everyone plays it on the superior ONE version.

792p 30fps bad textures, superior indeed.

Game runs between 30-60 fps will textures that almost mirror the PC version, only real difference is resolution which is getting patched at some point.

dream on, is painfully obvious that you haven't seen both version running.

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#87  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@sts106mat said:

@freedomfreak said:

@sts106mat said:

They can still play those modes in private matches or variety pack.

Respawn say that they cut it because PC players dont use the modes enough. there is no other reason to cut it... If its not used enough, removing it will stop people going in to those lobbies and being unable to find a match.

I personally stick to the attrition and variety.

They have promised additional modes are incoming (for free)

I'm not even counting variety pack, because that is not the same. And private matches only? C'mon..

It's just lame to cut content for it, even if it doesn't attract a lot of players. Refer to my COD comment. They don't pull this stuff.

Respawn is getting rid of content people paid for.

the content is still there, they only removed the option to play solely those modes.

Look, i really dont understand the need to remove this either, unless, as they said, not enough people play those modes. They have the data, not us...if people are sat waiting minutes on end for other players that wont be coming only to drop back out and play another mode, there is zero point in those lobbies being there at all.

once again, the modes are still available under variety pack and private matches.

So the title is wrong. And I agree with you that it is not THAT big a deal. But the idea that they should remove the option because of people waiting in empty lobbies is imo a mistake. Just check the server browser, you see that hardly a soul plays that mode so you know that it can take a while. There, no problem. If hardly a soul wants to play those modes it would have made more sense to remove them from the Variety loop, then to remove them as a separate mode you can pick.

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@Animal-Mother said:

@MBirdy88 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@aroxx_ab said:

How can they remove content... o.O

All thats left is a blank disc.

a blank disc has more content than infamous.

And somehow it was the best selling next gen game of april.

sad times for gaming. "oh look its shiny"... but then so was Killzone and Knack.

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@R4gn4r0k: Yeah, that's really dumb. They should cut any content at all. Glad this isn't happening with the XB1 version. Who cares if people are playing those modes or not?If anything they should just modify the modes and make them more interesting. Respawn & EA should be slapped upside the head for this bonehead move.

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#90 Crypt_mx
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@Krelian-co said:

@Crypt_mx said:

@Krelian-co said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sounds like they are dumbing down the PC version so everyone plays it on the superior ONE version.

792p 30fps bad textures, superior indeed.

Game runs between 30-60 fps will textures that almost mirror the PC version, only real difference is resolution which is getting patched at some point.

dream on, is painfully obvious that you haven't seen both version running.

Yes I have. It's literally high vs ultra textures and nothing more.

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#91  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@KungfuKitten said:

So the title is wrong. And I agree with you that it is not THAT big a deal. But the idea that they should remove the option because of people waiting in empty lobbies is imo a mistake. Just check the server browser, you see that hardly a soul plays that mode so you know that it can take a while. There, no problem. If hardly a soul wants to play those modes it would have made more sense to remove them from the Variety loop, then to remove them as a separate mode you can pick.

I don't see the thread title being wrong.

Playing the game modes in these different ways is not the same thing.

Game used to have 5 gamemodes: Attrition, Last Titan Standing, Hardpoint, CTF and Pilot Hunter and one game mode that combined all of these modes. They also added 2V2 LTS later on.

They were also hyping the gamers up before release that full game would have way more game modes than BETA. It did... for a while...

And now it's missing 2 gamemodes: CTF and Pilot Hunter. People who liked playing those modes can no longer do so.

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#92 R4gn4r0k
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@blackace said:

@R4gn4r0k: Yeah, that's really dumb. They should cut any content at all. Glad this isn't happening with the XB1 version. Who cares if people are playing those modes or not?If anything they should just modify the modes and make them more interesting. Respawn & EA should be slapped upside the head for this bonehead move.

Yes, I'm glad for Xbox gamers too. Especially for 360 gamers because they have had the chance to check out these game modes for less time.

I just think this makes a dangerous precedent, and it tells me a lot about Respawn.

Even if a couple hundred people enjoyed this game mode, they should work on making them happy, not cutting them from the content they want to play.

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@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sounds like they are dumbing down the PC version so everyone plays it on the superior ONE version.

It's like you're @Heil68 from a reversed dimension. Unfortunately you not only traded in playstation for xbox brand but you ditched your sense of humor as well.

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#94  Edited By SolidTy
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@inb4uall said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Sounds like they are dumbing down the PC version so everyone plays it on the superior ONE version.

It's like you're @Heil68 from a reversed dimension. Unfortunately you not only traded in playstation for xbox brand but you ditched your sense of humor as well.

Bizzaro Heil!

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#95  Edited By hehe101
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they can't do it to xbox simply because of the achievements etc.

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#96  Edited By CyberLips
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@MBirdy88 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

@aroxx_ab said:

How can they remove content... o.O

All thats left is a blank disc.

a blank disc has more content than infamous.

You know you are butthurt when you mention a game that has nothing to do with the topic.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:

LOL no single player campaign and only 3 multiplayer modes running on an ancient source engine in 792p with unstable framerate. Believe the hype indeed.

But the Hype is Real man! You just got to play it to believe it!

For real though this was a pretty dick move by Respawn.

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#98  Edited By PyratRum
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@pyratrum said:

Removing content? It's a fucking playlist.

Been spending most of my time playing CTF the last two weeks but if the player count is low then player count is low. No point in arguing against facts. Games do this all the time (see Halo).

We don't know what they mean with low player counts.Could be a couple of thousand, could be a hundred could be two people still playing the game;

Could be the gamemode died out on their US server and in other regions it was still popular.

What do you mean you don't know? Low player count. How much more self explanatory can that get?

I feel like you're making an issue where there really isn't one.

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And devs/pubs wonder why online-only gaming isnt taking off as much as they want it to... because of shit like this.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

@sts106mat said:

That's weird, i dont understand why they'd do that. must be that PC players really dont play those modes and people are sat waiting for matchmaking for too long. I dont have this issue on Xone though.

I bought the DLC, so far i have only paid swampland map which seems like it'll be a fun addition.

All other modes / additions will be free, they have said this several times already.

EDIT - They will still be playable under the "variety playlist" which is a mix of all modes......this just became a none story.

It's not a none story. Playing variety is not the same as CTF.

There are some game modes I don't like and CTF which I do like. Why would I play Variety ?

I'm not going to argue whether the game modes were popular enough or not. What I am going to argue however is that instead of trying to fix the game to lure PC gamers back in, they spend their time more on DLC.

Cutting content from the game people already paid for and offering paid content is not a non issue. It's a serious issue, and tells me what Respawn thinks of their community: bags of money.

@freedomfreak said:

Yeah, cut content from a multiplayer-only game.

Weaksauce, Respawn.

I wanted to give Respawn a chance. They made a very good multiplayer shooter. And I had hours of fun playing it.

But I'm not interested in anything else they make anymore. No respect for their customers.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that.... I'm like 99.999999% certain that all of this is 100% the fault of EA, rather than Respawn.