The Xbox: the Successor of the Sega Dreamcast?

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#1 Alpha-Male22
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When I look at my Sega Dreamcast and wonder what could have been, I constantly think of the Xbox (the 360 more so the original). I mean, it really did take Sega's dream and glorify it. Things like the controller (triggers, ABXY-- hell even the colors are the same, the placement of the analog stick) the online play-- it really seems that the Xbox took what Sega dreamed of and made it a reality.

Do you think the Dreamcast pioneered and paved the way for Xbox?

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#2 FirstDiscovery
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Well interestingly, i can see the 360 turn into the Sega Saturn and Dreamcast in Japan with all the arcade ports and its hardcore appeal...
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#3 -Jiggles-
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The Xbox 360 seems like the successor of the Xbox to me.
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#4 LittleHands134
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Only similar thing is the controllers really. Dreamcast games were horrible.
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#5 gameofthering
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"BLASPHEMY! No console holds a candle to the Almighty Dreamcast! (ALL HAIL SEGA!)"

only person to vote for that :(
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#7 st1ka
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"BLASPHEMY! No console holds a candle to the Almighty Dreamcast! (ALL HAIL SEGA!)"

only person to vote for that :(gameofthering
the dreamcast is very overrated if you ask me
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#8 Alpha-Male22
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"BLASPHEMY! No console holds a candle to the Almighty Dreamcast! (ALL HAIL SEGA!)"

only person to vote for that :(gameofthering

Lol, I knew there were some hardcore Dreamcasters on these forums :P

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#9 deathtoallgods
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Agreed to some degree, bit the 360 is successful. And the 56k Dreamcast was not good.
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#10 BioShockOwnz
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Xbox 360 is like the Dreamcast, but successful. Peter Moore hit it out of the park on his 2nd time at bat.
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#11 heretrix
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Well it certainly has been amusing watching the cows in system wars try to wish it into having the exact same fate.
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#12 Alpha-Male22
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Well it certainly has been amusing watching the cows in system wars try to wish it into having the exact same fate. heretrix

Highly unlikely, seeing that Microsoft isn't as small as Sega Corp.

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#13 sneslover
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Xbox is a MS console, not a successor to anything.

Plus DC stinks.

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#14 foxhound_fox
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It is missing a copious amount of games that made the Dreamcast awesome.
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#15 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]Well it certainly has been amusing watching the cows in system wars try to wish it into having the exact same fate. Alpha-Male22

Highly unlikely, seeing that Microsoft isn't as small as Sega Corp.

Like I said, it was amusing to watch.
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#16 TBoogy
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I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.
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#17 druggyjoe3000
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Kinda

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#18 TenP
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"BLASPHEMY! No console holds a candle to the Almighty Dreamcast! (ALL HAIL SEGA!)"

only person to vote for that :(gameofthering

Lol, I voted that too. ;)

I used to be such a Sega Fanboy. :(

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#19 Segaswirl1
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I agree with TC... after me personally going from Dreamcast to the original Xbox there were a lot of similarities, plus I got the Sega Bundle Pack Xbox with Jet Set Radio Future and Sega GT included. Good times... Jet Set Radio Future, Shenmue 2, Panzer Dragoon Orta, even Project Gotham Racing (essentially Metropolis Street Racer 2) all helped to make it feel like natural progression for me, a Dreamcast fan.
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#20 nVidiaGaMer
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360 is looking good its a beast when it comes to third party games and it still holds strong with its exclusives.
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#21 foxhound_fox
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I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.TBoogy

Shenmue, Ikaruga, Powerstone, Bangai-O, RE: Code Veronica, House/Typing of the Dead, Jet Grind Radio, Guilty Gear X, Maken X, Psyvariar 2, Rez, Segagaga, Space Channel 5, Skies of Arcadia, Virtua Fighter and Triggerheart Excelica. You missed a few. :P
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#22 BuryMe
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I think the DC was deffinsately a stepping stone for MS. They even developed a modifie ersion of windows for Sega.
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#23 Panther501
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I can't say its a successor to the dreamcast because the xbox lived to see another day and online play was the next evolution in console gaming so no.
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#24 DAZZER7
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I'm sure MS saw the potential of the DC and drew some inspiration from it no doubt. I'm surprised they didn't go and buy Sega.
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#25 TBoogy
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Shenmue, Ikaruga, Powerstone, Bangai-O, RE: Code Veronica, House/Typing of the Dead, Jet Grind Radio, Guilty Gear X, Maken X, Psyvariar 2, Rez, Segagaga, Space Channel 5, Skies of Arcadia, Virtua Fighter and Triggerheart Excelica. You missed a few. :P

Ready 2 Rumble, which EA recently ripped off and is being remade for wii. Hydro Thunder, which was big in bars at the time. DOA. And many of the titles we have mentioned were launch titles. i just didnt want to overwelm the haters...
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.foxhound_fox

Shenmue, Ikaruga, Powerstone, Bangai-O, RE: Code Veronica, House/Typing of the Dead, Jet Grind Radio, Guilty Gear X, Maken X, Psyvariar 2, Rez, Segagaga, Space Channel 5, Skies of Arcadia, Virtua Fighter and Triggerheart Excelica. You missed a few. :P

Great games, I owned a Dreamcast as well, and it had the 2 best 3D Sonic games on there.
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#27 WilliamRLBaker
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Online console play is nothing new, it was not invented on the Dreamcast. The Saturn had sega.net Before that Xband allowed us to play our Snes, and Genesis over the net.
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#28 Travis_Odell
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Could you even play online gaming with a 56k connection speed like the dreamcast had? I remember the web browser was pretty sweet and i loved the games.
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#29 WilliamRLBaker
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Could you even play online gaming with a 56k connection speed like the dreamcast had? I remember the web browser was pretty sweet and i loved the games.Travis_Odell
yes you could but nearly every thing on dreamcast followed a PC type model so most stuff had servers or client side servers, as well the dreamcast could use broadband.
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#30 djrobst
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nah its a successor of the xbox, so if the pads are similar, they are similar to the old xbox pads more
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#31 SecretPolice
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I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.TBoogy
This and had SEGA took my advice ;) & joined with MS. Today, they would be sitting in the Developers Penthouse instead of rummaging around in the basement.
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#32 ToScA-
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Well it certainly has been amusing watching the cows in system wars try to wish it into having the exact same fate. heretrix
Quite.
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#33 S3CR3T_SPY2
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Dreamcast wasn't a faulty machine.
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#34 Alpha-Male22
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Dreamcast wasn't a faulty machine.S3CR3T_SPY2

Well I would agree, the Sega was just destroyed by the PS3 though. One of the major reasons was DVD capabilities that the Dreamcast didn't have. Too bad the same can't be said for Sony this gen with their Blu Ray

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#35 too_much_eslim
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Only similar thing is the controllers really. Dreamcast games were horrible.LittleHands134
you didn't own a dreamcast then.
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.SecretPolice
This and had SEGA took my advice ;) & joined with MS. Today, they would be sitting in the Developers Penthouse instead of rummaging around in the basement.

I wish Sega was bought out by SOmebody other than Nintendo. I would instantly become a fanboy of whatever company especially if I start to see great games again coming from Sega. VC is a start, but I need more.
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#37 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.too_much_eslim
This and had SEGA took my advice ;) & joined with MS. Today, they would be sitting in the Developers Penthouse instead of rummaging around in the basement.

I wish Sega was bought out by SOmebody other than Nintendo. I would instantly become a fanboy of whatever company especially if I start to see great games again coming from Sega. VC is a start, but I need more.

:) Yup and just think, we would be already playing Shenmue 3, a true this gen Sonic Adventure and JSRF a totally revamped and this gen PSO to name just a few. :D
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#38 SpruceCaboose
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They have some similarities, but each were/are great systems in their own right. If Sega was still around, I would almost certainly be a Sega fanboy, so I am somewhat glad they died in the hardware market, as I much prefer being a game fanboy than a hardware fanboy.
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]This and had SEGA took my advice ;) & joined with MS. Today, they would be sitting in the Developers Penthouse instead of rummaging around in the basement.SecretPolice
I wish Sega was bought out by SOmebody other than Nintendo. I would instantly become a fanboy of whatever company especially if I start to see great games again coming from Sega. VC is a start, but I need more.

:) Yup and just think, we would be already playing Shenmue 3, a true this gen Sonic Adventure and JSRF a totally revamped and this gen PSO to name just a few. :D

Man 3 game I need to play befor I die: Shenmue 3, Skies of Arcadia 2, and Jet Set Radio. Problem is Smilebit made jet set radio and they are no more.
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#40 krunkfu2
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not the 360

the original xbox kind of felt like a successor due to some exclusive SEGA games from some of their bigger franchises

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#41 krunkfu2
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I cant believe how many people are saying DC or its games sucked. you are all crazy. the 2k sports series started there, Project Gotham basicallz started there, soul calibur started there (and scored a 10), amongst other gems. yes, the xbox is really dc2. the dc even had the windows ce logo on the system.TBoogy

the soul series actually started on PS1 with soul blade

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#42 -Master_St3ve-
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The Deamcast was the best $20 I've ever spent.
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#43 XanderZane
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In some ways maybe. If Microsoft bought SEGA and had all SEGA games exclusive to the XBox 360, I might agree. Right now the XBox 360 is it's own entity.
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#44 Renegade_Fury
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Sort of I guess. When the original x-box came out, the controller reminded me a lot of the Dreamcast's one. Also Microsoft was backing up Sega before Dreamcast died off so....
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#45 Kratos_OMEGA
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DC is better than the Xbox..even with a shorter lifespan. I didn't like the Original Xbox at all...i thought it was the worst console of that gen. Ninja Gaiden Black however was absolute briliance.
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#46 FatalDomain
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The similarities to the DC is what made me give MS a chance in gaming. Anybody with eyes could see the writing on the wall for the DC once the PS2 launched, very sad day in gaming to lose Sega :cry: As a gamer who enjoyed the breath of fresh air the DC had to offer, the Xbox also represented that path away from traditonal gaming. I stumbled onto a Xbox kiosk, held the Duke, and everything felt familiar...Too bad Sega was not smart enough to back MS 100% with its full catalog of games (only the chosen few).

Oh well the Xbox picked up the lap once the DC dropped the baton...happy gaming!!!

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