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#1 princeofshapeir
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Can we all agree on this? I think this is getting to be more true this gen than any other gen. I have made a commitment that I won't buy a single game on my PS3 (or Wii) that isn't available on PC. If you have the rig to handle even the most mediocre ports, there's really no reason to get the dumbed-down console version, especially considering that 99% of the time the game is cheaper on Steam and has increased graphical fidelity.

Is anyone really going to tell me that, of this year, Skyrim, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed Revelations, Portal 2, Crysis 2, Battlefield 3, and Human Revolutions are all worseon the PC? All of them benefit from either superior developer support, new graphical features, strong modding communities, or a more active online community. Why should I play Revelations at sub-30 FPS on my PS3 when I can keep it pumping at 60 FPS on my PC, and buy the game for $10 less?

We can argue about exclusives, but the situation stands: if someone owns a gaming PC and a PS3/360, they should alwaysget the PC version of a game.

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cool story bro

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#3 campzor
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apparently the optimization for saints rows 2 sucks... just saying. Also regarding to your last sentence...lol no... when i used to be a pc/ps2 gamer.... i bought all games pretty much on ps2 (multiplats) and just the exclusives on pc.
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apparently the optimization for saints rows 2 sucks... just saying. Also regarding to your last sentence...lol no... when i used to be a pc/ps2 gamer.... i bought all games pretty much on ps2 (multiplats) and just the exclusives on pc.campzor

Ye but that about the only game lol. Devs begin to love pc more and more. Saints Row 3 is one of the best optimized console ports from this year.

Sucks to be you, ps2 brought me nothing more than eyecancer.

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#5 glez13
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Not really. More like something high around 90+% of multiplats are superior on PC. There are some that are clearly inferior.

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#6 Riverwolf007
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i have to agree that the pc version is almost always the best with a few exceptions like saints row 2 but there are still other reasons to get the console version.

i would rather have the version that more of my friends have for any multipplayer game.

playing with ppl you know trumps the pc advantage for me 99% of the time.

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#7 bleehum
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[QUOTE="campzor"]apparently the optimization for saints rows 2 sucks... just saying. Also regarding to your last sentence...lol no... when i used to be a pc/ps2 gamer.... i bought all games pretty much on ps2 (multiplats) and just the exclusives on pc.

Saints row 2 runs perfectly fine for me. *shrug*
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#8 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="campzor"]apparently the optimization for saints rows 2 sucks... just saying. Also regarding to your last sentence...lol no... when i used to be a pc/ps2 gamer.... i bought all games pretty much on ps2 (multiplats) and just the exclusives on pc.bleehum
Saints row 2 runs perfectly fine for me. *shrug*

they probably fixed it through all the patches throughout the time since launch.

i remember it not working correctly being a huge deal back in the day.

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#9 princeofshapeir
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I haven't played SR2 so I can't speak for it, but I feel the situation is similar to GTA IV. At launch it was a very sloppy port, and only people with very high-end rigs could run it acceptably, but progressively it got better and better and some of the mods coming out for it are just amazing. Now we're at the point that the game on PC is miles different from the game on consoles.
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#10 The_Gaming_Baby
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Tell that to Resident Evil 4

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#11 bleehum
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[QUOTE="bleehum"][QUOTE="campzor"]apparently the optimization for saints rows 2 sucks... just saying. Also regarding to your last sentence...lol no... when i used to be a pc/ps2 gamer.... i bought all games pretty much on ps2 (multiplats) and just the exclusives on pc.Riverwolf007

Saints row 2 runs perfectly fine for me. *shrug*

they probably fixed it through all the patches throughout the time since launch.

i remember it not working correctly being a huge deal back in the day.

Probably so, I didn't get it until a month or so after release.
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Rage?

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Tell that to Resident Evil 4

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Probably a good exception, but with my 360 wired controller it's a moot point.

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Haven't played it yet, so I don't know for sure, but apparently patches have fixed the texture pop-in issues.

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#14 Kinthalis
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I agree with most of what you say, but I wouldn't say ALL multi-plats are better on the PC.

Just the vast majority. There is always one or two every year that are atrocious console garbage ports with no thought or consideraiton for the PC as a gaming platform.

So yes, most are, but not all.

'course consolite fanboys will rage over your thread TC. Get your flame shield ready.

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no. care. ever.

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#16 SaltyMeatballs
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Sometimes they are poorly optimised and not the best version until patched.
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#17 LordRork
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Some of Ubisoft's PC ports (ACII, for example) suffer due to their badly thought out DRM. While many PC versions are better, it's far from universal.

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What if most of my friends are getting FIFA 12 in consoles??? or Battlefield 3???

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Can we all agree on this? I think this is getting to be more true this gen than any other gen. I have made a commitment that I won't buy a single game on my PS3 (or Wii) that isn't available on PC. If you have the rig to handle even the most mediocre ports, there's really no reason to get the dumbed-down console version, especially considering that 99% of the time the game is cheaper on Steam and has increased graphical fidelity.

Is anyone really going to tell me that, of this year, Skyrim, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed Revelations, Portal 2, Crysis 2, Battlefield 3, and Human Revolutions are all worseon the PC? All of them benefit from either superior developer support, new graphical features, strong modding communities, or a more active online community. Why should I play Revelations at sub-30 FPS on my PS3 when I can keep it pumping at 60 FPS on my PC, and buy the game for $10 less?

We can argue about exclusives, but the situation stands: if someone owns a gaming PC and a PS3/360, they should alwaysget the PC version of a game.

princeofshapeir

Generally speaking, yes.

There are other problems though. PC versions of multiplat games are often either delayed, or announced to be released at a later time than the console versions. That has been the case with at least two of the games on your list that I am aware of. That is one reason someone may buy the console version over its Pc counterpart.

Another is social interaction. I find its alot easier to have a game with friends and chat away than it is on a PC. PC requires third party software, and an abundance of tech minded PC gaming friends, Console gamers are more abundant in social circles, thus, easier to have a friend to game with, nevermind the ease at which it can be done over PC gaming.

Another reason you may want to buy a console version is down to resale. Many gamers, including myself do not hoard games they have finished with. If I am never to play through a game again, I trade it in for something I will play. PC games cannot be traded in many stores, simply because they have one time activation codes. Sure consoles are catching up by including online passes, but at least these can be repurchased. None of the high street stores in the UK will trade PC games, because of the serial codes.

There are other reasons too, but thats just a few why people would buy console versions of games over PC ones. Not everything is about the graphics....

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#20 Shadowchronicle
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The majority are better on PC.
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Yup and it's why consoles are good for exclusives and that's about it.
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#22 d_parker
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Lots of good muliplayer sports games currently on the PC?

When was the last time Madden, NHL or Tiger Woods appeared on the PC? Just saying.

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#23 glez13
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Yup and it's why consoles are good for exclusives and that's about it. Heil68

There are also a lot of multiplats that are console only.

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What if most of my friends are getting FIFA 12 in consoles??? or Battlefield 3???

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#26 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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If you've got the great pc, then maybe yes. However, back when I was big into pc gaming I always couldn't stand starting a game and then optimizing it for my system. For me that takes me out of the experience.

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#28 pelvist
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99% of multiplats are better on PC.

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Majority.
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#30 LovePotionNo9
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I can understand terrible framerate issues on the PS3, but how does the 360 version hold up? I dunno, if I like the game enough I might get both versions when they're on sale.

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#31 HaloinventedFPS
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Tell that to Resident Evil 4

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modded Resi 4 is the best version

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Hermits like to downplay many of the downsides that PC gaming has, like take for instance I wanted to play Witcher 2 so I had to upgrade my PC. It was a freakin nightmare and I kept getting errors every time I tried to play it because I had to get the settings just right, eventually I got it but it took me HOURS to get a smooth performance, and what makes t even worse is now I can't play some of my older PC games like Republic Commando.

For some reason when I go to play it my game just crashes back to the desktop. I never had this problem before the upgrade and I don't know why it's happening, luckily I can still play Morrowind.But PC graphics are overrated, it does look better then the console version usually but not THAT much better. Certainly not worth the hassle I had of trying to get it to run well. Stupid hermits will deny this and say "oh it's easy to fix" but you know what? I don't have these problems on PS3.

And it's consoles that push the graphics forward, like when Gears came out and other devs started to make better looking games. Or when Uncharted and Killzone came out and the same thing happened, you got more advanced games being made. And mods are overrated, there are some that are kinda cool but alot of them just cause your PC to have more issues and alot of them are just stupid things like nude mods which are made for losers.

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#33 freedomfreak
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Except the ones that don't work.

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With a few exceptions, I agree.

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I agree to an extent. I will always buy the PC version of a multi-platform game. There has not come a single instance of games that I have bought that the PS/360 version has topped the PC version.
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A lot of games are ported to PC and are pretty glitched. Talking Fable and others.
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It was a freakin nightmare and I kept getting errors every time I tried to play it because I had to get the settings just right, eventually I got it but it took me HOURS to get a smooth performance, and what makes t even worse is now I can't play some of my older PC games ShadowMoses900
Upgraded my computer numerous times, nothing of this sort EVER happens to me.
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Rage?

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After the first patch, Rage was now better on PC than consoles.
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Hermits like to downplay many of the downsides that PC gaming has, like take for instance I wanted to play Witcher 2 so I had to upgrade my PC. It was a freakin nightmare and I kept getting errors every time I tried to play it because I had to get the settings just right, eventually I got it but it took me HOURS to get a smooth performance, and what makes t even worse is now I can't play some of my older PC games like Republic Commando.

For some reason when I go to play it my game just crashes back to the desktop. I never had this problem before the upgrade and I don't know why it's happening, luckily I can still play Morrowind.But PC graphics are overrated, it does look better then the console version usually but not THAT much better. Certainly not worth the hassle I had of trying to get it to run well. Stupid hermits will deny this and say "oh it's easy to fix" but you know what? I don't have these problems on PS3.

And it's consoles that push the graphics forward, like when Gears came out and other devs started to make better looking games. Or when Uncharted and Killzone came out and the same thing happened, you got more advanced games being made. And mods are overrated, there are some that are kinda cool but alot of them just cause your PC to have more issues and alot of them are just stupid things like nude mods which are made for losers.

ShadowMoses900
And that's why some people shouldn't play PC games. "Took hours to even play the game." I put everything on Ultra except for Ubersampling and I was playing in 2 minutes.
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A lot of games are ported to PC and are pretty glitched. Talking Fable and others.LustForSoul
How is Fable glitched? I played Fable 3 on PC and it was perfectly fine.
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Hermits like to downplay many of the downsides that PC gaming has, like take for instance I wanted to play Witcher 2 so I had to upgrade my PC. It was a freakin nightmare and I kept getting errors every time I tried to play it because I had to get the settings just right, eventually I got it but it took me HOURS to get a smooth performance, and what makes t even worse is now I can't play some of my older PC games like Republic Commando.

For some reason when I go to play it my game just crashes back to the desktop. I never had this problem before the upgrade and I don't know why it's happening, luckily I can still play Morrowind.But PC graphics are overrated, it does look better then the console version usually but not THAT much better. Certainly not worth the hassle I had of trying to get it to run well. Stupid hermits will deny this and say "oh it's easy to fix" but you know what? I don't have these problems on PS3.

And it's consoles that push the graphics forward, like when Gears came out and other devs started to make better looking games. Or when Uncharted and Killzone came out and the same thing happened, you got more advanced games being made. And mods are overrated, there are some that are kinda cool but alot of them just cause your PC to have more issues and alot of them are just stupid things like nude mods which are made for losers.

ShadowMoses900
It frustrates me to no end when I have to change all these settings to get something on the pc to work. I agree with the graphics part too, there is an improvement but it isn't major nor do I care for it. Doesn't mean pc is bad its just I'm geared that way.
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#42 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Hermits like to downplay many of the downsides that PC gaming has, like take for instance I wanted to play Witcher 2 so I had to upgrade my PC. It was a freakin nightmare and I kept getting errors every time I tried to play it because I had to get the settings just right, eventually I got it but it took me HOURS to get a smooth performance, and what makes t even worse is now I can't play some of my older PC games like Republic Commando.

For some reason when I go to play it my game just crashes back to the desktop. I never had this problem before the upgrade and I don't know why it's happening, luckily I can still play Morrowind.But PC graphics are overrated, it does look better then the console version usually but not THAT much better. Certainly not worth the hassle I had of trying to get it to run well. Stupid hermits will deny this and say "oh it's easy to fix" but you know what? I don't have these problems on PS3.

And it's consoles that push the graphics forward, like when Gears came out and other devs started to make better looking games. Or when Uncharted and Killzone came out and the same thing happened, you got more advanced games being made. And mods are overrated, there are some that are kinda cool but alot of them just cause your PC to have more issues and alot of them are just stupid things like nude mods which are made for losers.

shadowchronicle
It frustrates me to no end when I have to change all these settings to get something on the pc to work. I agree with the graphics part too, there is an improvement but it isn't major nor do I care for it. Doesn't mean pc is bad its just I'm geared that way.

That's because your PC sucks. Get a better PC and you wouldn't have that problem.
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#43 DireOwl
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I agree with you TC. Although, a small portion are better on consoles, they are usually quickly patched.

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#44 Shadowchronicle
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] That's because your PC sucks. Get a better PC and you wouldn't have that problem.

I'm pretty sure my PC is fine. It can play crysis.:? The issue I have is playing old games. I can play pretty much any game I want and I'm satisfied.
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#45 PC_Otter
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The PC version is not always the best, but very often it's the addition of better/customizable controls and better resolution support that makes me prefer to have the PC version, even if it's not as optimized (which is usually battled around with much more powerful hardware). I will say that no one should go near the PC version of Quantum of Solace. It's locked at 30 FPS (and no way around it with a locatable CFG file) even though it's built on the CoD4 engine.

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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]

Can we all agree on this? I think this is getting to be more true this gen than any other gen. I have made a commitment that I won't buy a single game on my PS3 (or Wii) that isn't available on PC. If you have the rig to handle even the most mediocre ports, there's really no reason to get the dumbed-down console version, especially considering that 99% of the time the game is cheaper on Steam and has increased graphical fidelity.

Is anyone really going to tell me that, of this year, Skyrim, Arkham City, Assassin's Creed Revelations, Portal 2, Crysis 2, Battlefield 3, and Human Revolutions are all worseon the PC? All of them benefit from either superior developer support, new graphical features, strong modding communities, or a more active online community. Why should I play Revelations at sub-30 FPS on my PS3 when I can keep it pumping at 60 FPS on my PC, and buy the game for $10 less?

We can argue about exclusives, but the situation stands: if someone owns a gaming PC and a PS3/360, they should alwaysget the PC version of a game.

BibiMaghoo

Generally speaking, yes.

There are other problems though. PC versions of multiplat games are often either delayed, or announced to be released at a later time than the console versions. That has been the case with at least two of the games on your list that I am aware of. That is one reason someone may buy the console version over its Pc counterpart.

Another is social interaction. I find its alot easier to have a game with friends and chat away than it is on a PC. PC requires third party software, and an abundance of tech minded PC gaming friends, Console gamers are more abundant in social circles, thus, easier to have a friend to game with, nevermind the ease at which it can be done over PC gaming.

Another reason you may want to buy a console version is down to resale. Many gamers, including myself do not hoard games they have finished with. If I am never to play through a game again, I trade it in for something I will play. PC games cannot be traded in many stores, simply because they have one time activation codes. Sure consoles are catching up by including online passes, but at least these can be repurchased. None of the high street stores in the UK will trade PC games, because of the serial codes.

There are other reasons too, but thats just a few why people would buy console versions of games over PC ones. Not everything is about the graphics....

While this may be true, if you have a ton of HDD space it doesn't matter.:D
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#48 DarthBilf
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It usually is, but there are definitely exceptions. Wasn't Black Ops multiplayer a buggy mess on the PC? It was one of the smoothest multiplayer games on consoles. And for many multiplayer games, the 360 is the no-brainer choice because of my friends. And games are not cheaper on Steam 99% of the time. In fact, for most of the year they are at least as expensive as console games are. Google Shopping does wonders.
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#49 katana_duo
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Devil May Cry 3 would like a word with you.
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#50 Tikeio
Member since 2011 • 5332 Posts

[QUOTE="Tikeio"]

Rage?

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After the first patch, Rage was now better on PC than consoles.

Did they ever release the "mega hi-res" textures?

I was planning on getting the PC version sometime next year. My PC couldn't run it right now even if I wanted to.