The Outer worlds - Probably the best RPG ever made?

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#1 Ghosts4ever
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Hello friends,

So this new game outer worlds just released and before the release i was looking forward to this game but never though it would turn out to be this good.

So i played some of out words and currently playing it. My goodness the combat is so damn good and smooth. i feel like this is first RPG ever made which have awesome combat. I remember combat in Mass effect, elder scrolls, fallout and witcher have awful combat mechanics or gunplay. this on other hand feel like im playing some kind of FPS. as its FPS/RPG i mean.

design wise its not open world game but level design is vast open or semi sandbox. the best kind of level design i prefer. as most open world bored me.

so apart from Deus Ex and System shock which are more of immersive sim. this is by far best RPG game I have ever played in my life. and in 20 years of my gaming experience.

kudos to obsidian, you guys did fantastic job.

what do you think my friends? is this really best RPG ever made? lets discuss

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#2 lundy86_4
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No. It's quite excellent from what i've played, maybe i'll wait to get in a little more before I judge. I do love the little things, like characters reacting to what you're wearing armour-wise, for example.

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#3  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@lundy86_4 said:

No. It's quite excellent from what i've played, maybe i'll wait to get in a little more before I judge. I do love the little things, like characters reacting to what you're wearing armour-wise, for example.

gameplay is super smooth here. maybe First person prespective help it.

but the combat. i never expect it to be good especially for RPG standard. sure its no FEAR or Doom combat but for RPG standard its amazing.

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#4 R4gn4r0k
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It's refreshing for a game NOT to be open world.

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#5 lundy86_4
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@R4gn4r0k: I hear that. Let's get away from some of these disjointed messes.

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#6  Edited By Yams1980
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The game looks great, i havent played it yet though.

It's too bad the developers were too lazy to put in ultrawide support. Luckily there are hacks for it but we are in 2019 and only offering 16:9 is a joke.

I've played games from the early 90s that you can run in ultrawide with no problems. The windows versions of Civilization and Simcity 2000 for example.

I'm getting tired of living in 2019 where ultrawide is the obvious future and purely the path of the master race at this point and still having to look up hex edit guides for games just to get 21:9 working.

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#7  Edited By briguyb13
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Great game and I'm lovin' it, but a few things hold it back from being the best ever. Lacks some of the content that normally fills these types of games. It's also not really an open world with fully explorable environments.

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#8 Guntster22
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Well with that glowing heads up from Ghost - I'm all in. Must buy it this week !

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@R4gn4r0k said:

It's refreshing for a game NOT to be open world.

F*ck yes!

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#10 jaydan
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Among the best games this year have been new IP's (The Outer Worlds and Astral Chain), but best RPG ever? Let's get past that honeymoon phase.

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#11 lamprey263
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I wouldn't call it that, but it is pretty good from what I have played so far. I love the absurdity of its universe.

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#12 npiet1
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The dialog options are great especially with companions however the skill points are useless. The upgrades for things aren't great either. I'm loving everything else though, the story and settings reminds me a lot of firefly.

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#13  Edited By Juub1990
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@Yams1980: There is Ultrawide but not in fullscreen mode. I just use borderless fullscreen.

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#14 Arkhalipso
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Why is it always "the best ever made"? Lol.

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#15 with_teeth26
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its a great RPG but not sure i'd call it the best ever made

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@Arkhalipso said:

Why is it always "the best ever made"? Lol.

Its ghost, enough said.

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#17 Cloud_imperium
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1. TOW our lord and savior

2. GS gives space Fallout 9, bad game.

3. Best RPG ever made

Coming soon

4. OK I'm getting bored now. Getting repetitive and trees don't break. Doom Eternal is promised messiah.

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#18 mrbojangles25
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It's good and I was totally blown away for the first 10 hours, but the flaws are starting to emerge.

With that said, it's a great RPG as far as character interaction, character building, world building, and all that stuff goes. Obsidian has always been good at that, especially dialogue choice.

Not gonna lie though: I miss VATS. Quantum Time whatever is fun but I do wish they had that active-pause, set-up-your-shot system in this game.

@with_teeth26 said:

its a great RPG but not sure i'd call it the best ever made

I think it's the best action-RPG we have had for a long time. But best ever? Not quite.

It is definitely the RPG Fallout 4 should have been imo. The only thing Fallout does "better" is scale and scope, but that is also a drawback as the world of Fallout 4 lacks the detail and focus that Outer Worlds has.

@R4gn4r0k said:

It's refreshing for a game NOT to be open world.

Yeah, it has my preferred level design approach; large, but instanced, zones that are not fully open-world.

I feel it still allows for a lot of exploration and emergent gameplay, but it supports a lot more detail and focus than open-world games have.

I will say this, though; I do wish the zones were a bit larger. Dragon Age: Inquisition, for all it's faults, had this approach (instanced zones) but it was also large enough to give you that open-world feeling. Outer Worlds feels a bit small at times.

Still, I much prefer Outer Worlds approach to level design than Fallout 4 or Skyrim.

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#19 npiet1
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I think they wanted VATS but legally they couldn't. It's pretty similar.

@mrbojangles25 said:

Not gonna lie though: I miss VATS. Quantum Time whatever is fun but I do wish they had that active-pause, set-up-your-shot system in this game.

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#20  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@Cloud_imperium said:

1. TOW our lord and savior

2. GS gives space Fallout 9, bad game.

3. Best RPG ever made

Coming soon

4. OK I'm getting bored now. Getting repetitive and trees don't break. Doom Eternal is promised messiah.

when i said best RPG ever made. i cant find any other RPG that has gameplay mechanics this good.

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#21 freedomfreak
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C'mon, now..

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#22 Sushiglutton
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You are still in the honeymoon phase :)! You need to complete the game, then let a month pass and then decide if it was the best ever.

I fall for this every time. Like RDR2. First it was like: "wow this is the most incredible game of all times". Then after a while: "the shootouts are not that fun" and then after finishing: "this game was incredible tedious and a pain to suffer through".

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#23 sealionact
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For all of you scoffing at the "best ever" claim, I note none have you have suggested an alternative....?

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#24 Litchie
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Made my character, played a little, killed some people, got to a town, talked to people, ran some errands. All that took about 3 hours, made me bored and started playing something else. It's probably good, not sure yet. Will probably not play much more of it, though, since it's longer than I plan paying for game pass, and I don't think I'd buy the game.

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#25  Edited By briguyb13
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@sealionact said:

For all of you scoffing at the "best ever" claim, I note none have you have suggested an alternative....?

Fallout New Vegas

Dragon Quest XI S

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#26 TheEroica  Moderator
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Can't wait for the switch version!

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#27 briguyb13
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It's funny seeing posters who used to be adamant Xbox die-hards becoming hardcore Switch fans.

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@briguyb13 said:

It's funny seeing posters who used to be adamant Xbox die-hards becoming hardcore Switch fans.

Going from Xbox to Switch is like going from a Ferrari to a Toyota lol.

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You really don't understand how RPG works, do you ghost?

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@i_p_daily said:
@briguyb13 said:

It's funny seeing posters who used to be adamant Xbox die-hards becoming hardcore Switch fans.

Going from Xbox to Switch is like going from a Ferrari to a Toyota lol.

lol you calling xbox a ferrari? come on

atleast switch have exclusives. xbox has none.

@Gamerno6666 said:

You really don't understand how RPG works, do you ghost?

i know and this is proper RPG with character creation and skills. althought its RPG which doesnot have bad combat.

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@Cloud_imperium:

And cyberpunk 2077 is the antichrist

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#32 Pedro
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Why does the OP use Trump speak so often? Do you not know that using the term best ever, worst ever for everything loses any semblance of value?

You are undermining the game with this thread.

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#33 Ghosts4ever
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@adamosmaki said:

@Cloud_imperium:

And cyberpunk 2077 is the antichrist

No. Im now officially hyping Cyberpunk 2077.

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#34  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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I'll stick to Underrail for the time being, no point picking this shit up, and it's Epic Store as well which is an automatic no no.

Still think they could have been far more daring with a new IP. It just wreaks of un-originality.

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#35 Ghosts4ever
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@uninspiredcup said:

I'll stick to Underrail for the time being, no point picking this shit up, and it's Epic Store as well which is an automatic no no.

Still think they could have been far more daring with a new IP. It just wreaks of un-originality.

there has not been any RPG that has gameplay this good. ever in history.

especially looks at mediocre overrated ones like mass effect and witcher..

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#36  Edited By pyro1245
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The Outer World is a great game. It's pretty much the full package.

  • Good stats and character building worthy of a few play throughs.
  • Interesting narrative and choices. Well written characters.
  • It looks great. Exploration is rewarding. Lots of loot.
  • Combat is very good, especially when compared to the Bethesda Fallout games.
  • Time mechanic adds a layer of strategy to encounters.
  • No sleazy industry practices.
  • Funny corporate satire.

I wish they would have changed up the visual aesthetic. It's too much like Fallout. I don't think the 50's style works well in space. Giant industrial computers everywhere just seem out of place. They had a chance to really differentiate this IP from Fallout in a few ways that would have fit better with the space theme. I don't hate it though.

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#37 DrLostRib
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you know it's possible for it to just be a good game

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#38 Ghosts4ever
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@drlostrib said:

you know it's possible for it to just be a good game

its good game. but best RPG game ever made too.

its no Doom or STALKER.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@drlostrib said:

you know it's possible for it to just be a good game

its good game. but best RPG game ever made too.

its no Doom or STALKER.

well thank god for that

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#40 nepu7supastar7
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@ghosts4ever:

I never got the chance to play it yet but from what I've seen: it looks pretty good. It feels like the true sequel to Fallout 3(take that as you will) but that kinda puts me off. Your character doesn't talk and interaction with other npcs isn't in realtime.

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@drlostrib said:

you know it's possible for it to just be a good game

Ghost scale

Sucks <-> Best ever

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#42 pyro1245
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@uninspiredcup said:
@drlostrib said:

you know it's possible for it to just be a good game

Ghost scale

Sucks <-> Best ever

Is it a scale, or binary option?

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#43  Edited By judaspete
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@i_p_daily said:
@briguyb13 said:

It's funny seeing posters who used to be adamant Xbox die-hards becoming hardcore Switch fans.

Going from Xbox to Switch is like going from a Ferrari to a Toyota lol.

Hey, Toyota makes good, solid, reliable cars. And so many different models to fit whatever your needs may be.

Edit: Kind of like Nintendo's first party game selection. You know, the analogy actually works :).

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@with_teeth26 said:

its a great RPG but not sure i'd call it the best ever made

Same. It's great, but definitely not the best ever made. I'm still sitting on the 8.5 setting. Not sure I'd give it a 9 just yet.

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#45 Pedro
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@pyro1245 said:

Is it a scale, or binary option?

More like a simple minded evaluation of things. :)

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@Sushiglutton said:

You are still in the honeymoon phase :)! You need to complete the game, then let a month pass and then decide if it was the best ever.

I fall for this every time. Like RDR2. First it was like: "wow this is the most incredible game of all times". Then after a while: "the shootouts are not that fun" and then after finishing: "this game was incredible tedious and a pain to suffer through".

haha that was me too. pro tip: caveat every gushing post with "still early days yet" just so you don't look so much of a dick when you've done almost a complete 180 by the end 😇

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@Sushiglutton said:

You are still in the honeymoon phase :)! You need to complete the game, then let a month pass and then decide if it was the best ever.

I fall for this every time. Like RDR2. First it was like: "wow this is the most incredible game of all times". Then after a while: "the shootouts are not that fun" and then after finishing: "this game was incredible tedious and a pain to suffer through".

How many hours on RDR2?

Honestly, any open world or RPG game feels like a chore towards the end of 100+ hours or whatever. I basically feel like quitting gaming every time I finish off 100+ hour RPG or open world type game. RDR2 was still brillaint though, but like any game of it's ilk it was a massive time sink. Playing Poker inside RDR2 is Like inception of video game time wasting, but I probably did that for at least like 10 hours while playing it.

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#48 Ghosts4ever
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for those who are saying i think its best ever.

no, even though its best RPG ever. its just a good game. no masterpiece.

that show how bad RPG genre is.

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@judaspete said:
@i_p_daily said:
@briguyb13 said:

It's funny seeing posters who used to be adamant Xbox die-hards becoming hardcore Switch fans.

Going from Xbox to Switch is like going from a Ferrari to a Toyota lol.

Hey, Toyota makes good, solid, reliable cars. And so many different models to fit whatever your needs may be.

Edit: Kind of like Nintendo's first party game selection. You know, the analogy actually works :).

Nothing wrong with a Toyota but its no Ferrari.

Also Nintendo don't actually have different models to suit your needs as they don't do racing games, unless you consider MK, which I don't.

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#50 I_P_Daily
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@ghosts4ever said:
@drlostrib said:

you know it's possible for it to just be a good game

its good game. but best RPG game ever made too.

its no Doom or STALKER.

The best RPG ever made lol, the devs should pay you to shut up as you're doing more harm to the game than good :(