The Order dominates everyone in graphics at Gamescom 2014

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#51 freedomfreak
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I get less and less impressed the more I see it.

But yeah, looks pretty.

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#53 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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@MK-Professor said:
  • 800p - check
  • 30 fps - check
  • black bars - check
  • film grain effect - check
  • lightmaps - check

But its OK if its on the PS4 because the cows will say it was made that way on purpose!!

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#54 faizan_faizan
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@KillzoneSnake: http://i.imgur.com/SdrXrTU.png

Also,

> 2014

> MSAA

LOL

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#56  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@geniobastardo said:

@shadiezz2012 said:
@scottpsfan14 said:
@geniobastardo said:

Ryse PC and The Witcher will look and PLAY better.

I knew this would happen lol. Ryse would be hyped by the hermits. 4/10 is a 4/10. The Order looks more interesting. And the graphics are at least as good.

lol true

Fanboys of any side are always very hypocrite

PC makes any game better....

Sadly this is what excited the modern console gamers. Barely interactive movie games and visuals that allows the peoples to make pretend as if they are part of the master race.

Being a hardcore gamer I appreciate gameplay and regularly played 14 year old titles like AVP 2000.

This is a the nature of proper pc gamers, substance.

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#57  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@shadiezz2012 said:

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1:10 was shocking IMO. The moment the game presented a more open ended looking area in the presence of sunlight, it almost looks downgraded.

Something about the "filmic look" is lost. It looks average during that scene. The washed out style it's using becomes more noticeable in the present of more intense lighting.

So, the game doesn't even look that impressive to me from a graphical point. However, and fortunatly, from a gameplay perpective, it looks definitely more interesting now.

Besides, UT4 looks better if you want to play it that way.

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#58 uninspiredcup
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@scottpsfan14 said:

Thats just crazy if thats real time!

Whats crazy about it?

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#59 PAL360
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It does look inpressive! Unfortunately the fameplay looks too generic. Also those black bars and the 30fps...hmm

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#60  Edited By deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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PC fanboys will bash the games visuals, or look for ways to do so. While I've been vocal about how the current sony/ms industry is rather nasty; pc fanboys, THIS is where a games budget really factors in. You simply don't see stuff like this on pc at the moment(though I think this may change).

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#62 GrenadeLauncher
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@FastRobby said:

The most lineair boring game ever made

To be fair, Quantum Break has a stutter gimmick that looks fairly interesting.

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#63  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@geniobastardo said:

@shadiezz2012 said:
@scottpsfan14 said:
@geniobastardo said:

Ryse PC and The Witcher will look and PLAY better.

I knew this would happen lol. Ryse would be hyped by the hermits. 4/10 is a 4/10. The Order looks more interesting. And the graphics are at least as good.

lol true

Fanboys of any side are always very hypocrite

PC makes any game better....

Sadly this is what excited the modern console gamers. Barely interactive movie games and visuals that allows the peoples to make pretend as if they are part of the master race.

Being a hardcore gamer I appreciate gameplay and regularly played 14 year old titles like AVP 2000.

This is a the nature of proper pc gamers, substance.

The only games that are barely interactive movie games are Quantic Dream games. "Press a button for the next sequence".

I disagree my friend. Even watching the Battlefield: Hardline footage, which is supposedly more open. Almost all of the footage shown was taken up by "watch this, we want to be a movie".

Waste of time.

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#64  Edited By shadiezz2012
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@deadline-zero0: i respect your opinion on the graphics but i disagree with it 100%

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#66 heguain
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Nah. I think TW3 looks far better also it's an openworld ;)

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#67  Edited By shadiezz2012
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@scottpsfan14

you keep fall for uninspiredcrap comments ...he's a huge troll and he's not even a funny troll

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#70 uninspiredcup
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@scottpsfan14 said:
@uninspiredcup said:

@scottpsfan14 said:

Thats just crazy if thats real time!

Whats crazy about it?

Uhh.. The detail? It's impressive.

Not really. Stuff like the actual reactive flame in Metro or the predone animation (like this) of the Dead Space suit change are way better.

It's very hard to become impressed by video games these days. Nothing like Halflife 2 jump levels.

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#71  Edited By kuu2
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A game that is 800p is great looking to Cows????

Sony Fan continue to be the clowns of SW.

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#72 Gue1
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too bad the game will not have a multiplayer and it will most likely be a weekend rental at best.

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#73 Mr_Huggles_dog
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@kuu2 said:

A game that is 800p is great looking to Cows????

Sony Fan continue to be the clowns of SW.

Same goes for PC gamers saying Ryse will be better or play better on PC....all of a sudden it's not a crap game anymore.

On a side not...Quantum Break and this both look like generic 3rd person shooters. I think they are just tech demos for the systems. That said...the difference is one has a draw that is gameplay wise that has been done in Max Payne....the other's draw is a story which we haven't heard before.

I'll take the story.

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#74  Edited By shadiezz2012
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@scottpsfan14 Witcher 3 look awsome and will be day 1 on pc and glad it have more smooth and faster gameplay with much better combat system than the the dated Gameplay of Witcher 1/2

but man, Dat order 1886... it doesn't look almost CGI....it is CGI...very unreal

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@scottpsfan14 said:
@shadiezz2012 said:

you keep fall for uninspiredcrap comments ...he's a huge troll and he's not even a funny troll

Believe me.. I know. But that doesn't mean I can't converse with a huge troll.

just ignore him

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#76  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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All graphics and No gameplay.... Well, no great gameplay anyways.

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#78 ShepardCommandr
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Witcher 3 says hi

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#79  Edited By miiiiv
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It looks great, there's no denying that, especially the charters and the animations which are the better than in any game that's out now. But it's not surprising since it's a linear game with small scale and confined environments so is should look really good.

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#80  Edited By gpuking
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The Witcher 3 may have the scale but the on screen detail is nowhere near as high fidelity as The Order, especially the lighting, texture res and polycount.

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#81 Snugenz
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@gpuking said:

The Witcher 3 may have the scale but the on screen detail is nowhere near as high fidelity as The Order, especially the lighting, texture res and polycount.

You're truly a fucking eejit. Answer me this, what do you get out of the Order being higher fidelity than Witcher 3?. Will you find the game more enjoyable because of that?.

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#82 Lulu_Lulu
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@Snugenz

I don't think thats what values the most.... I think more than anything He's much more happy that its exclusive. He values that more than graphics.... :p

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@Snugenz said:

@gpuking said:

The Witcher 3 may have the scale but the on screen detail is nowhere near as high fidelity as The Order, especially the lighting, texture res and polycount.

You're truly a fucking eejit. Answer me this, what do you get out of the Order being higher fidelity than Witcher 3?. Will you find the game more enjoyable because of that?.

Well in some ways this "next" gen hasn't been too exciting because the games simply haven't been that big of a visual leap. The Order is the first game to really get a lot of "wows". This mentality has been going on since consoles started. There's nothing wrong with it, either. It would be nice if gameplay evolved too.....or if there was more actual gameplay like nintendo games.

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#84 Snugenz
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Snugenz

I don't think thats what values the most.... I think more than anything He's much more happy that its exclusive. He values that more than graphics.... :p

True, in that case he'd be better fucking off to Playstation.com and getting a good circle jerk going over the PS's exclusives or Beyond3D where he can talk about graphics (and be laughed out of there since he knows **** all about graphics) than boring us with this fanboy shit.

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#85 gpuking
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@Snugenz

Calm your butts son, just stating some facts here and yes, when a game looks so god damn good as in CGI like, you would be mesmerized by its graphics. Not saying other factors don't matter, but read the op again and stick to the topic please.

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#86  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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@Snugenz

Amen to that !

I mean if he really was that dedicated to graphics he would have a PC.

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#87 gpuking
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I own a PS4, Xbone and a pc which is not the most powerful just a puny gtx 760 rig that runs 99.9% of all my PC games @ 1080p max settings. But hey The Order, even Infamous and Killzone SF look better than all my Metro and Crysis games, so yeah do any of you lems or hermits own all those?

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#88 princeofshapeir
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Technically it's impressive, but a nice engine seems wasted on a game that looks like an overly-cinematic linear TPS in a pretty generic setting. Meh.

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#89 Lulu_Lulu
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@gpuking

Nope ! :)

I'm not a hardware junie and I'm well of aware of it.

Why don't you have a Nintendo ?

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#90  Edited By tormentos
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@MK-Professor said:
  • 800p - check
  • 30 fps - check
  • black bars - check
  • film grain effect - check
  • lightmaps - check

lol... That bitter ness..hahaha

@FastRobby said:

The most lineair boring game ever made

No that one is call Ryse..lol

@Opus_Rea-333 said:

@gpuking said:

@bldgirsh

Dude, ever occurred to you that as time goes by we see new titles pop up thus replacing the previous crown holder? In fact I've always been very specific about it, I always add "released thus far" or "launch titles" or "in year xxxx" etc. I don't just change opinion like a mom. Please do take note ye?

The Order is really insane graphically speaking...

but really Quantum Break gameplay moved me more than The boring but stunning looking Order... Same thing that happened to Infamous repeating with The order? too much fancy graphics very uninspired gameplay.

Oh please the only thing great about the gameplay is the niche time stopping crap,and that actually will get old fast like Ryse,the AI is really dumb,and all you have to do is freeze time shoot bullets,freeze time shoot bullets to kill some one,my god lemming fall for every crappy thing show to them,stoping down things was the next step with a developers that use to slow things now in the first place..

It gets old pretty fast and the AI was just plain stupid and powerless.

@Vaasman said:

Frankly Witcher 3 looks better. All Order has going for it are animations, everything else is just cheap tricks it's hiding behind, be it the bloom or the glare or the grain. The only part of the trailer I found impressive was the texture work in the chapel area.

Not to mention it just looks boring. I'm still banking on this being the Lair of this generation.

No it doesn't alto it should not be compare Witcher is an open world game.

@Cloud_imperium said:

@shurns said:

When I seen QB I was impressed by it's graphics, but I was more impressed by The Order.

Quantum Break will be better 'game' though . A lot better . Graphics wise , I think Witcher 3 , Ryse PC and Unreal Tournament will be new graphics kings and two of these (TW3 and UT) will also be good games and not just tech demos like Ryse and Order .

Based on what do you think it will be a better game.? And the Witcher 3 doesn't look better than the Order Ryse on PC maybe Ryse on xbox one doesn't either.

@FoxbatAlpha said:

Not graphics king if only 800p. I love using cow logic against them.

1920x800p 2.40.1 aspect ratio that is 1080p blu-ray movies and they aren't call 800p.

2.40.1 aspect ratio without blackbars would not be 1080p but actually higher,learn a thing or 2 about aspect ratios and resolutions.

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#91  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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@gpuking said:

The Witcher 3 may have the scale but the on screen detail is nowhere near as high fidelity as The Order, especially the lighting, texture res and polycount.

Wel duh. Creating higher detailed characters and models is far easier when the area in question is more closed off.

IMO, Unity looks far more impressive considering the quality of assets on building and characters, while rendering a huge Paris map filled with npcs to populated it's streets, and allowing you to enter 1/4 of it's buildings.

I don't know how big TW3's map is exactly, so i'm not going to be a full point of that. Besides, Unreal Tournament 4 looks better if you want to use inclosed locations.

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#92  Edited By foxhound_fox
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Wasn't Cloud Imperium at Gamescon? Because Star Citizen shits all over that.

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@tormentos

Believe it or Not right... You're Right.... Times Manipulation is not a bad gimmick to have for an entire game but in Quantum Break its way too much of an Exploit to be challenging, the AI is totally defensless against it so even if they were clever enough theres just nothing they can do to stop you.....

But in the Demo they obviously tweaked it so that That Feature would deliver the maximum amount of Awesomness ! But fiddling with those numbers is not going to help, they need to rethink and redesign it.

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#95 foxhound_fox
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@speak_low said:

We've come a long way with TPS graphics:

And shamefully, those images share exactly the same action one does for almost the entire length of the game.

Too bad the gameplay hasn't gone anywhere in that time.

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#96  Edited By gpuking
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@tormentos Truly tough times for lems, what's sad is that they hide behind hermits now and pretending each one of them owns gtx 780 rig. They diss my graphics competency yet they are utterly clueless themselves, it's just depressing trying to reason with some of them.

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#97 Roler42
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it's a shame that just like Ryse, it won't excell in gameplay, kudos for those visuals tho... some of the best i've seen in years

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#98  Edited By MK-Professor
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@KillzoneSnake said:

@MK-Professor said:
  • 800p - check
  • 30 fps - check
  • black bars - check
  • film grain effect - check
  • lightmaps - check

You know that Ryse is 900p, yet The Other has higher res at 800p. The image you get is 1080p, just with black bars lol.

Best graphics shown to date. CHECK

How it is 1080p when it has 537600 less pixels than 1920x1080? LOL

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#99 tormentos
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@scottpsfan14 said:

If you're talking about resolution and framerate, of course. You're 100% correct. But in terms of game art content, The Order takes it.

Thats just crazy if thats real time!

It is and hermit and lemmings are at full damage control mode over it..hahaha

It looks fu**ing sick who ever denies this is a die hard butthurt fanboy on denial.

@Snugenz said:

@gpuking said:

The Witcher 3 may have the scale but the on screen detail is nowhere near as high fidelity as The Order, especially the lighting, texture res and polycount.

You're truly a fucking eejit. Answer me this, what do you get out of the Order being higher fidelity than Witcher 3?. Will you find the game more enjoyable because of that?.

Now this is a sorry ass butthurt reply the argument is graphics you loss the argument and now you hide on enjoyment,well visuals are enjoyable take it as you like.

@kuu2 said:

A game that is 800p is great looking to Cows????

Sony Fan continue to be the clowns of SW.

is 1080p with black bars just like Blu-ray movies 2.40.1 aspect ratio without black bars isn't 1080p either fu**ing learn this is actuallyh higher than 1080p oh and this game has higher IQ than Ryse and higher resolution to.

@FastRobby said:
@tormentos said:
@FoxbatAlpha said:

Not graphics king if only 800p. I love using cow logic against them.

1920x800p 2.40.1 aspect ratio that is 1080p blu-ray movies and they aren't call 800p.

2.40.1 aspect ratio without blackbars would not be 1080p but actually higher,learn a thing or 2 about aspect ratios and resolutions.

Still 800p, because they couldn't push 1080p, they already had to use much more fog to make the PS4 capable of running it

No is not unless you want to ignore that resolution isn't measure by 1 side alone,so 960x1080p is true 1080p.?

Is England moron is full of fog many times of the year asc here..lol

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@tormentos

Believe it or Not right... You're Right.... Times Manipulation is not a bad gimmick to have for an entire game but in Quantum Break its way too much of an Exploit to be challenging, the AI is totally defensless against it so even if they were clever enough theres just nothing they can do to stop you.....

But in the Demo they obviously tweaked it so that That Feature would deliver the maximum amount of Awesomness ! But fiddling with those numbers is not going to help, they need to rethink and redesign it.

Is not about been bad or not is about making the AI powerless if one thing i didn't like Crysis 2 for just wait a few seconds and there you go invisible,you can abuse it to hell and beyond,i didn't see anything impressive in that gameplay other than the effects,freeze time and shoot a barrage of bullets,even at the enemies which would also do like him and attack out of the time frame.

Only time will tell if the demo was dumbed down AI wise or not for demo purppose.

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@tormentos

Believe it or Not right... You're Right.... Times Manipulation is not a bad gimmick to have for an entire game but in Quantum Break its way too much of an Exploit to be challenging, the AI is totally defensless against it so even if they were clever enough theres just nothing they can do to stop you.....

But in the Demo they obviously tweaked it so that That Feature would deliver the maximum amount of Awesomness ! But fiddling with those numbers is not going to help, they need to rethink and redesign it.

this is my concern with the game + remedy games tend to be very repetitive and after a few hours im just wanting to cross the finish line. everything just seems super easy and overpowered right now but hopefully they can fix this by release