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#1 rawbwilsh
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Medal of honor getting 4's. How terrible is that? This system has yet to justify its purchase.
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#2 nyoroism
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MP3. Damn, guess that failed.
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#3 Brown52
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MP3. Damn, guess that failed.nyoroism

so whens that come out? 

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#4 Raider4Life81
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MP3. Damn, guess that failed.nyoroism
1.No one has played it exept Chuck Norris
2.Its not a FPS
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#5 kayn83
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Well if you like first person shooters, the wii shouldn't be your first choice anyway :P
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#6 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.Brown52

so whens that come out? 

A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now.
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#7 SmashBrosLegend
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1. Call of Duty 3-PS2 port 2. Far Cry Vengeance- PS2 port 3. Medal of Honor Vanguard- PS2 port 4. Red Steel- made on a modified GC dev kit and ported to Wii. We have yet to see a first person shooter built from the ground up from the Wii. It is ridiculous to judge an entire system's FPS capabilities on four ports.
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#8 mushroomscout89
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;-; Wai.
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#9 rawbwilsh
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Majority of American games are in First Person. No games have longevity and the trend will continue. I dont see it getting better.
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#10 Sonicplys
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Medal of honor died after Frontline. Wait until wii Half Life 3. OHHHHH YEAAAHHHH
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#11 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.nyoroism

so whens that come out?

A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now.

well, i guess you fail then. 

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#12 voxware00
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it has 2 fours

oddly enough ign gave it a 7

http://wii.ign.com/articles/776/776038p2.html

 

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Even with that being true, Vanguard is fun and pretty wartime first-person shooter on Nintendo's Wii and If you played Call of Duty 3 and want something more atmospheric, this is your game. Its overall presentation is much better and the resulting experience much more engaging. Plus, it's got a decent four-player compatible multiplayer mode, which CoD lacked completely.

But Vanguard's controls, while adequate, are looser than Activision's shooter, which is a disappointment. The developer has almost made up for the less desirable responsiveness with a host of control intricacies, from an analog lean in sights mode to a quick 180 turn and a sprint option and they're all welcomed additions. And yet, none of them mask that basic control shortcoming entirely."

 

yep... not all realistic war fps ports can be gems :P

if only they could combine both pros from the games... its not so much the wiis fault as the developers scratching the surface on howto make a solid fps with the system... bit by bit though 

 

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#13 PeterTimpa
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For FPS stick with the 360. The Wii seems like it be cool to use because you just aim it on the screen , however it is very sensitive and hard to get a reall good shot, also the Wii needs to be played on a decent sized screen for fps
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1. Call of Duty 3-PS2 port 2. Far Cry Vengeance- PS2 port 3. Medal of Honor Vanguard- PS2 port 4. Red Steel- made on a modified GC dev kit and ported to Wii. We have yet to see a first person shooter built from the ground up from the Wii. It is ridiculous to judge an entire system's FPS capabilities on four ports.SmashBrosLegend

red steel could have been nice if

A. not rushed for launch
B. polished up a bit in terms of visuals and few other things
C. had a better turning system
d. and a few other small things here and there

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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]1. Call of Duty 3-PS2 port 2. Far Cry Vengeance- PS2 port 3. Medal of Honor Vanguard- PS2 port 4. Red Steel- made on a modified GC dev kit and ported to Wii. We have yet to see a first person shooter built from the ground up from the Wii. It is ridiculous to judge an entire system's FPS capabilities on four ports.

The waiting game and excuses lol
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#16 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.Brown52

so whens that come out?

A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now.

well, i guess you fail then. 

Topic: Wii is terrible at FPS

MP3: Good from the previews

 How do these things mix?

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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]1. Call of Duty 3-PS2 port 2. Far Cry Vengeance- PS2 port 3. Medal of Honor Vanguard- PS2 port 4. Red Steel- made on a modified GC dev kit and ported to Wii. We have yet to see a first person shooter built from the ground up from the Wii. It is ridiculous to judge an entire system's FPS capabilities on four ports.bionicle_lover

red steel could have been nice if

A. not rushed for launch
B. polished up a bit in terms of visuals and few other things
C. had a better turning system
d. and a few other small things here and there

I actually enjoyed Red Steel.
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#18 cheezisgoooood
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Well it's true Wii isn't yet the ideal system for FPS.  Fact is, without a way to stop turning for a second to reposition your wiimote it's gonna be about as clunky as a PSP game.
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.Raider4Life81
1.No one has played it exept Chuck Norris
2.Its not a FPS

People like to say that, but it kinda is. The game is predominately shooting from a combat perspective, and there aren't enough tangential features from other genres to indicate that it's something different than an FPS. That being said, isn't the fact that Chuck Norris plays it proof enough? I don't think that Chuck would associate himself with a game classified as a "first person adventure".
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#20 SmashBrosLegend
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[QUOTE="Brown52"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.nyoroism

so whens that come out?

A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now.

well, i guess you fail then. 

Topic: Wii is terrible at FPS

MP3: Good from the previews

 How do these things mix?

Metroid Prime 3 is not a first person shooter, it's a first person action/adventure.
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#21 rawbwilsh
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The is for Childeren and continue to excel at "party" games. That are suitable for a 7 year old and japanese gamers.
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#22 i_like_pizza
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Well if you like first person shooters, the wii shouldn't be your first choice anyway :Pkayn83

Agreed. PC ftw.

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#23 Shad0ki11
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TC is using an ad hominem logical fallacy!

Don't give in to the stupidity!

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#24 nyoroism
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SmashBrosLegend
Metroid Prime 3 is not a first person shooter, it's a first person action/adventure.

You play from a first-person perspective. More than half of the game you are shooting. I'd put it at a FPS/A.

EDIT: Chain quote.

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#25 rawbwilsh
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[QUOTE="kayn83"]Well if you like first person shooters, the wii shouldn't be your first choice anyway :Pi_like_pizza

Agreed. PC ftw.

Have fun with Metroid Prime, cause you are seeing exactly why it may not work on the wii.
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#26 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Brown52"][QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.nyoroism

so whens that come out?

A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now.

well, i guess you fail then.

Topic: Wii is terrible at FPS

MP3: Good from the previews

How do these things mix?

Previews from a game that is due out "A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now."

Do I really have to spell it out for you more? Or are you just that much of a fanboy to not see that Wii lacks in the FPSs. 

Plus its debatable whether you can even call MP3 a FPS.

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#27 EmoPWNS
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Remove the "at FPS" part and you've got yourself a thread.
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#28 nyoroism
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Previews from a game that is due out "A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now."

Do I really have to spell it out for you more? Or are you just that much of a fanboy to not see that Wii lacks in the FPSs. 

Plus its debatable whether you can even call MP3 a FPS.

Brown52
I support all systems, and I bash all systems. Not a fanboy. It doesn't matter when it will be released, previews have been good, and that's that. If it's debatable then I say it's a FPS/A.
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For FPS stick with the 360. The Wii seems like it be cool to use because you just aim it on the screen , however it is very sensitive and hard to get a reall good shot, also the Wii needs to be played on a decent sized screen for fpsPeterTimpa
actually I find it easier to get a good shot..... we have yet to see a good FPS on the wii though. I'm guessing the devs are trying out different things
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#30 Wanderer5
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There is still metroid prime 3.:wink:

/thread.

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[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]nyoroism

Metroid Prime 3 is not a first person shooter, it's a first person action/adventure.

You play from a first-person perspective. More than half of the game you are shooting. I'd put it at a FPS/A.

EDIT: Chain quote.

Shooting is not the point of the series. The Metroid Prime games are about exploration. Saying it is an FPS just because you are in a first person perspective and holding a gun is like saying Resident Evil is a third person shooter. Halo is an FPS, and Gears of War is a TPS. Metroid Pime is a first-person action/adventure and Resident Evil is a survival horror game.
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#32 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Brown52"]Previews from a game that is due out "A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now."

Do I really have to spell it out for you more? Or are you just that much of a fanboy to not see that Wii lacks in the FPSs.

Plus its debatable whether you can even call MP3 a FPS.

nyoroism

I support all systems, and I bash all systems. Not a fanboy. It doesn't matter when it will be released, previews have been good, and that's that. If it's debatable then I say it's a FPS/A.

So you aren't a fanboy, yet you are stating that the Wii has great FPSers because someone liked a 5 minute demo of a game that may or may not come out NEXT year :roll:

no your right.. that makes perfect sense...

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#33 Raider4Life81
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all ive heard in this thread was MP3 which is not even a FPS
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#34 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"][QUOTE="Brown52"]Previews from a game that is due out "A long. Long. Long. Looooooooong. Long..... time from now."

Do I really have to spell it out for you more? Or are you just that much of a fanboy to not see that Wii lacks in the FPSs.

Plus its debatable whether you can even call MP3 a FPS.

Brown52

I support all systems, and I bash all systems. Not a fanboy. It doesn't matter when it will be released, previews have been good, and that's that. If it's debatable then I say it's a FPS/A.

So you aren't a fanboy, yet you are stating that the Wii has great FPSers because someone liked a 5 minute demo of a game that may or may not come out NEXT year :roll:

no your right.. that makes perfect sense...

I didn't say it was a great FPS, please quote me on that. I'm saying this thread is pointless because it isn't terrible. Being great is one thing, but not being terrible is another.
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#35 PeterTimpa
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[QUOTE="PeterTimpa"]For FPS stick with the 360. The Wii seems like it be cool to use because you just aim it on the screen , however it is very sensitive and hard to get a reall good shot, also the Wii needs to be played on a decent sized screen for fpsrenger6002
actually I find it easier to get a good shot..... we have yet to see a good FPS on the wii though. I'm guessing the devs are trying out different things

Acctually I thought it would make it easier I dont own a Wii my friend does and I played Red Steel. You are very right about a good FPS and the developers need to do something

Very good 

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#36 bman784
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]

[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"]SmashBrosLegend

Metroid Prime 3 is not a first person shooter, it's a first person action/adventure.

You play from a first-person perspective. More than half of the game you are shooting. I'd put it at a FPS/A.

EDIT: Chain quote.

Shooting is not the point of the series. The Metroid Prime games are about exploration. Saying it is an FPS just because you are in a first person perspective and holding a gun is like saying Resident Evil is a third person shooter. Halo is an FPS, and Gears of War is a TPS. Metroid Pime is a first-person action/adventure and Resident Evil is a survival horror game.

The problem with those kind of definitions is that they're too specific. Wider genres are classified in simpler terms. For example, by that logic I could call Halo a Sci-Fi first person shooter or Oblivion and action RPG. It doesn't work like that. By broad definitions, Metroid Prime falls into the category of first person shooter, because that is the predominate feature of the game.
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#37 Brown52
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I didn't say it was a great FPS, please quote me on that. I'm saying this thread is pointless because it isn't terrible. Being great is one thing, but not being terrible is another.nyoroism

Your statements are the only things that are pointless so far as your only defense for FPSs on the Wii has been a game that may or may not come out NEXT year and which many don't even consider a FPS... and your reasoning for this is because some guy liked the 5min demo retro gave of it.

The only logical explanation for why you think this is you are either:

A) a fanboy

B) completely clueless

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#38 Timesplitter14
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Because the Wii is a piece of.... hardware... that doesn't focus on FPS :)
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ironically a lot of people said that the wii would be only good for fps game before it came out last year ...................
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all ive heard in this thread was MP3 which is not even a FPSRaider4Life81

It count as a FPS. It pretty much a first person shooter/adventure.

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#41 nyoroism
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]I didn't say it was a great FPS, please quote me on that. I'm saying this thread is pointless because it isn't terrible. Being great is one thing, but not being terrible is another.Brown52

Your statements are the only things that are pointless so far as your only defense for FPSs on the Wii has been a game that may or may not come out NEXT year and which many don't even consider a FPS... and your reasoning for this is because some guy liked the 5min demo retro gave of it.

The only logical explanation for why you think this is you are either:

A) a fanboy

B) completely clueless

Let's run through this again.

Thread topic: Wii is terrible at FPS

Metroid Prime 3: A FPS (with adventure elements, I'll give you that. But to advance in the game's story, you have to shoot bosses, not jump on them) with previews that are good. Who cares when it comes out? The previews came out months ago, and they point to positive.

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So Metroid Prime 3: Corruption is out? Well... I guess I must have gone into the future...
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#43 Brown52
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ironically a lot of people said that the wii would be only good for fps game before it came out last year ...................mikesoo

I think it still can be.  But FPSs usually have great graphics which doesn't help, plus the holding your arm up to aim for long periods of time could be a possible problem. 

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#44 rawbwilsh
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Even if Metroid Prime 3 is good it doesnt matter.

 1. Nintendo made it, therefore you are confirming that the wii is headed down the same path as the game cube

2. That IS ONE GAME

 3. Nothing is in the pipeline to be solid

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[QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]I didn't say it was a great FPS, please quote me on that. I'm saying this thread is pointless because it isn't terrible. Being great is one thing, but not being terrible is another.nyoroism

Your statements are the only things that are pointless so far as your only defense for FPSs on the Wii has been a game that may or may not come out NEXT year and which many don't even consider a FPS... and your reasoning for this is because some guy liked the 5min demo retro gave of it.

The only logical explanation for why you think this is you are either:

A) a fanboy

B) completely clueless

Let's run through this again.

Thread topic: Wii is terrible at FPS

Metroid Prime 3: A FPS (with adventure elements, I'll give you that. But to advance in the game's story, you have to shoot bosses, not jump on them) with previews that are good. Who cares when it comes out? The previews came out months ago, and they point to positive.

Lets say Metroid Prime has the basic FPS elements in it and thus might demonstrate how an FPS can function on the Wii? The genre of Metroid Prime is one of those endless debates.
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#46 xxxxThe_GoaTxxx
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I am currently not satisfied with the FPS genre for the Wii yet. However, I feel it has a lot of potential to be amazing, so my hopes are still high. Will probably take till mid 08' for a good FPS that establishes a proper control scheme to come out.
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#47 Tylendal
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[QUOTE="nyoroism"]MP3. Damn, guess that failed.Raider4Life81
1.No one has played it exept Chuck Norris
2.Its not a FPS

FPA then. It still controls like a first person shooter. And from what I've heard, MP3 controls great.
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#48 Brown52
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[QUOTE="Brown52"]

[QUOTE="nyoroism"]I didn't say it was a great FPS, please quote me on that. I'm saying this thread is pointless because it isn't terrible. Being great is one thing, but not being terrible is another.nyoroism

Your statements are the only things that are pointless so far as your only defense for FPSs on the Wii has been a game that may or may not come out NEXT year and which many don't even consider a FPS... and your reasoning for this is because some guy liked the 5min demo retro gave of it.

The only logical explanation for why you think this is you are either:

A) a fanboy

B) completely clueless

Let's run through this again.

Thread topic: Wii is terrible at FPS

Metroid Prime 3: A FPS (with adventure elements, I'll give you that. But to advance in the game's story, you have to shoot bosses, not jump on them) with previews that are good. Who cares when it comes out? The previews came out months ago, and they point to positive.

So you are picking B then?  Alright.  

And just to be clear, the thread is Wii is terrible at FPS.

To counter this thread title, you say that a game that:

-will not be out this year, might be out next year, or maybe longer...

-Is kind of a FPS (as stated by you: because you don't jump on the bosses heads, you shoot them)

and 

-Has been previewed by a guy for 5 minutes who thinks that these 5 minutes have been +

You're right, the Wii FPS are not terrible, I mean, they have MP3, a game that might be out NEXT year and is more an adventure game than FPS and is not even a great FPS (as stated by you) Â