The Last of Us Part 2 wins record breaking 6 awards at the Golden Joystick Awards

Cutscenes were a storytelling method in videogames 40 years ago? Sorry I might've missed those Pacman cutscenes, you might wanna jog my memory there. TLOU 2 is ~20 hours long, ~9 hours of that is cutscenes. That's almost half of the game. That's a big yikes. People meme on Kojumbo all the time, but he's nowhere near that gameplay-to-movieshit ratio.

Cutscenes are a cop-out for videogames, just as a text crawl is for movies. It's what you fall back to when you're either out of budget or out of ideas.

Peak Videogaming here fellas:

No it wouldn't.

Videogames are a medium that has a dimension to it that movies don't: Interactivity.

Movies have a dimension to them that books don't: Visual story-telling. And movies share that dimension with theater. So your proposed analogy yet again confirms your fails at comprehension.

And since videogames don't share any roots with movies, your analogy falls on its face yet again. And if you think replicating movie storytelling makes for a good, let alone award-winning, videogame storytelling you're as dumb as the clowns who voted for these lame-ass awards.

@R10nu: Pac-Man (or it might have been Ms Pac-Man) did have small cutscenes between stages. It might be the first game to do this (at least from my memory).

@vfighter: interesting, I never known (or realized) this.

@i_p_daily: too bad for you then IP, gamespot has a pretty weak stance on spoiler discussions.

@R10nu: lol dude you can't get one right. It's funny.

Yes, cutscenes have been part of video games storytelling since "forever".

Books absolutely can have a visual element. They do so for centuries.

Theatre and music have interactive elements for millennia. It's not exclusive for videogames.

Any the correlation between games and cinema dates at the very least since the early 90s.

So yeah, your ignorance is hilarious. But don't stop please. Can't wait to read your next reply.

@MirkoS77: I can agree with Tommy being all over the place. They should of did more to hone on what he was thinking cause it’s as you said in beginning he wants revenge but wants Elle to stay out of it, you come across him torturing people, sniping people but then is willing to walk away? Then after that wants Elle to take revenge because he can’t? I doubt Tommy will be important to part 3 but who knows.

TLOU2's story is among the worst in the history of entertainment. It's a real shame that Ghost of Tsushima and FF7R will get snubbed just so some blue checkmark weirdos can circle jerk to wokeness.

This really is the video game equivalent to TLJ.

No too bad for you, like i said its been nearly 6 months since its been out, and nearly what 9 months or so since its dopey story had been plastered all over the net for people to see.

Build a bridge & get over it :)

What bothers me is I saw absolutely no reason for Tommy's shift. I try to place it in the narrative to some purpose but can't. He just seemed to do it completely arbitrarily which was 100% contrary not only the effort he'd put out previously to get there, but to the driving force of his decision, revenge, which isn't a fleeting motive. Abby was literally a day or two hunt away, and they were on her trail.

Getting knocked off a pier and into rapid waters below may make you think twice about continuing your journey.

After remembering Pac-Man in the arcades (and on the Atari 5200) during the 1980s, I did remember the small cutscenes. At the time, they were things I never seen in a video game before and I found them entertaining.

TLOU2 is certainly one of the best games this year. I just can't for the life of me figure out what people see in Death Stranding though....but best PC game? LOL I'd personally give a nod to Visage on PC. The scariest game I've ever had the (dis)pleasure of playing. The final build was released several weeks ago. I can only imagine playing it in VR as a form of self harm.

I do see a lot of Ghost of Tsushima talk in here too. Just finished the game and it is a solid 8. The combat system is great but it's flaws definitely detract from it's strengths. Outside of the main storyline and a couple character stories, the game is flat and dull (not to mention the motivation between Jin and his Uncle's rift is fairly stupid). The shrines, fox dens, etc., are all boring and too plentiful. There's simply nothing interesting to find in the world like you would in RDR2 or GTA. It feels empty. Pretty, but empty. By the end of the game you're so powerful it's laughable. I had to turn it to the highest difficulty just to make it interesting. It didn't need to be Sekiro hard but the AI is so brain dead dumb that there's little challenge once you unlock final tier ghost abilities and gear. If Sucker Punch does decide on making a follow up they have a solid kernel to work with.

Did anyone seriously think the Game of the Decade wasn't going to snatch up all the GOTY awards?

I really wished Cyberpunk 2077 released on time, just to see it win zero GOTY awards because of TLOU2.

Also Death Stranding winning PC GOTY is quite hilarious. enjoy the sloppy seconds.

But should not come as a surprise. Death Stranding is vastly superior to any other PC game of 2020.

And the point you're trying to make here is? Sounds ludditic, but do go on.

Jesus, now we're bundling in covers and illustrations as "book storytelling", huh? Books (not comics) rely on neither for their storytelling. They're completely optional fluff that may and will differ depending on the publisher.

And the weasel word of the day is "element". I'm getting second-hand embarrassment from you having to put yourself through this. None of your faff correlates to the "text crawl movies getting Oscars" hypothetical or the fact that movie storytelling doesn't make a good videogame storytelling.

Have some decency to make one good faith argument for a change.

So odd 20 years after their inception. Thanks for confirming my point.

Can't deny the game's a technical marvel, but storywise, I've seen better.

@HoolaHoopMan: probably the popularity. Its probably the most high profile PC release alongside Horizon Zero Dawn and later, Cyberpunk 2077 this year.

@R10nu: Dude stop being ignorant. Your whole point was comparing the storytelling in TLoU2 to a movie using text crawl as a primary way of storytelling. (Could have pointed star wars as a joke too tbh)

I took it as an exaggeration and made a joke.

Then you took offence for some reason and been showing off your ignorance since then. And you still insist on doing so.

TLoU2 does its storytelling through cutscenes, through interactivity and through the environments. Basically like games since they've been technically able have been doing. So all your reasoning is idiotic.

I'm not ever arguing about the quality of the writing,. At this point I'm just pointing out your ignorance.

And yes dude, book illustrations are 100% a form of storytelling in books. Even if was just comics, it would absolutely count as so. But I was actually thinking on the work of William Blake when I mentioned it. But coming from someone who thought that there were no cut scenes in the 80s it's not surprising that you're ignorant about everything else.

Would still fit the hypothetical. SW didn't get any Oscars for its storytelling, did it?

Now imagine if it wasn't just the intro sequence, but half of the film. Would that be award-winning storytelling?

Like what, doing a QTE? What's interactive about me not being able to kill Abby, save Jessie, stop the Wolfs' attack on Scar village, etc, etc? You've already conceded that TLOU 2 overly relies on cutscenes. So don't try and walk that back like you didn't understand my point.

Here, I'll spell it out for you: Storytelling (not story, that a different thing, get it?) in TLOU 2 is as pedestrian and backwards-thinking as it gets.

Argue with that instead of weaseling round in circles while publicly self-fellating over how allegedly smart and educated you are.

Examples of illustrations telling key parts of the story not present in the text itself?

Is this another one of your "jokes", or just you being a regular twat again?

Pardon me, hard to separate the two since both are equally dismissive and patronizing.

@R10nu: Stop embarrassing yourself please.

Since you're asking nicely.

@R10nu: Jebus you're a complete moron.

You notice PC's game of the year is sloppy seconds from PS4? LOL!

@sakaixx said:

Congratulations to Naughty Dogs team bringing home 6 awards!

One of my personal fav new game of 2020 tied with FF7R and Ghost of Tsushima. Many voted for it even though there is a bit of outrage by certain section of fans and salty console warriors showing how small yet vocal that crowd is. Seen so many publishers link this award show and request fans to vote so it seems quite a relevant award. Nintendo and surprising entry this year, Microsot awarded a token award for their contributions for their game efforts releasing games on their respective consoles. Congratulations!

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Death Stranding got PC GOTY? Lol wut...?

@PernicioEnigma: it is also still one of Steam top 10 best sellers of the month. Game is more popular than this forum would suggest.

‘Best storytelling - The Last of Us 2’

The story even fans of the first game hated with a passion?

Yea, ok...

Just another marketing event. Probably with Sony as the primary sponsor.

@Sevenizz: Nice of Sony to give Ori the win for xbox platform, enjoy. Next year MLB 21 and on will be dominating that category 😂😂

BS. The story was awesome. The ones that couldn't get over Joel's death are the ones that consider the whole thing being bad because their daddy Joel died. I fund it to be one of the best and most intriguing stories in a game in years. I can't even remember the last time a story in a video game got me this intrigued to see what happens next.

True, but there are so many PC exclusives in genres unique to PC that would've been more deserving of the title PC GOTY. Giving the award to Death Stranding is just lazy IMO.

I'm not hating on Death Stranding. From what I've read it's a really good port, which is to be commended because good ports are far from an assurance, even with big publishers.

@PernicioEnigma: this award is based on people's choice so you know, the majority voted for it instead of whatever else.