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#1 LegatoSkyheart
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/03/the-last-guardian-was-never-on-hiatus

Despite rumours to the contrary, it appears that The Last Guardian was never actually on hiatus.

That's according to Sony's Shuhei Yoshida, who pointed the finger at Sony America's Jack Tretton during an interview with Games Industry for putting the idea out there earlier this year.

"Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton!" he explained. "He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now."

...

"We're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way," he said. "I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet."

Shuhei Yoshida sounds like he's in Denial of the Game's Actual Progress.

It's looking like we will see Half Life 3 before we see anything from The Last Guardian.

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#2 cloudff7tm
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It was Jack Tretton! Whatever you say mayne. Either way, if it ever comes out, it's a first day purchase for me.

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#3 Malta_1980
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After so many years and missed opportunities to show the game (E3 / TGS etc) I lost 99% of my hope in ever seeing this game getting released... However I'll keep that 1% alive deep within my gaming heart :(

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#4 StrifeDelivery
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So... is this another FF 13 Versus scenario where it just migrates to the PS4?

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#5 foxhound_fox
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So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.
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#6 NexApex
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It's just a little disappointing how Sony gaves the boot to Liverpool and Zipper Interactive but keep around a team who hasn't released a single game in the past 9 years.

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#7 ninjapirate2000
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People should just stop bringing up this game until actually show that it's in development.
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#8 JohnF111
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So... is this another FF 13 Versus scenario where it just migrates to the PS4?

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As soon as they brought in a second studio and pulled the curtains on the game it was pretty obvious what they were doing, the game could be a big system seller on PS4 or at least something new and next gen. I'm guessing just like GT5 the largest amount of time will be engine related hence the small team working on "engineering" so maybe by the time January comes we'll see a release date and a new trailer.
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#9 CanYouDiglt
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It is amazing this game is still being hyped in any form at all. The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. Can you imagine if this game was a multiplate and being vaporware the way it is? It would be a joke on the level of Duke Nukem.
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#10 XBOunity
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It's never coming ... Sony duped you guys in e3 3 years ago
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#11 Some-Mist
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The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. CanYouDiglt
yea... it's definitely not hyped because ICO and SOTC were both incredible games, critically acclaimed, well received by gamers.
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#12 lamprey263
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I'm curious how many millions have gone into this game so far, at some point if Sony can't finish it they're going to pull the plug. I mean how much do they actually expect to make off of it?
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#13 DJ-Lafleur
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Could of fooled me.

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#14 locopatho
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It is amazing this game is still being hyped in any form at all. The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. Can you imagine if this game was a multiplate and being vaporware the way it is? It would be a joke on the level of Duke Nukem.CanYouDiglt
Like Half Life 3?
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It's just a little disappointing how Sony gaves the boot to Liverpool and Zipper Interactive but keep around a team who hasn't released a single game in the past 9 years.

NexApex

I agree it is a shame but, Team Ico is one of, if not the best dev of all time...imo.

I can see why they don't want to lose them, but releasing no games for an entire gen is ridiculous.

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#16 blackace
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It was Jack Tretton! Whatever you say mayne. Either way, if it ever comes out, it's a first day purchase for me.

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I preordered it like 2 or 3 years ago. :lol:

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Waitstation: The Probably Next Next Gen Gaming Experience
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#18 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Don't care, I lost hope for the game. Even if it comes out I don't think it will wow me like it could have when my anticipation was high. Hopefully it's still decent at least but if they said in the morning it was canned I wouldn't really be upset

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#19 Krelian-co
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At this point i just hope it doesn't become another duke nukem forever

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#20 organic_machine
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Re-engineering? Perhaps that means they've moved the title to the PS4... I mean, by the time this comes out, the PS3 will be long dead.

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#21 cainetao11
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It was Jack Tretton! Whatever you say mayne. Either way, if it ever comes out, it's a first day purchase for me.

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agreed. love their work
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#22 DJ-Lafleur
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Re-engineering? Perhaps that means they've moved the title to the PS4... I mean, by the time this comes out, the PS3 will be long dead.

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By the time the game comes out, we will probably be hearing about PS5. :P

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#23 Riverwolf007
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yeah because being on hiatus is worse news than your shytty game was shytty and you had to go back to the drawing board.

tretton was trying to save face and this dude just blew it.

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#24 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/03/the-last-guardian-was-never-on-hiatus

Despite rumours to the contrary, it appears that The Last Guardian was never actually on hiatus.

That's according to Sony's Shuhei Yoshida, who pointed the finger at Sony America's Jack Tretton during an interview with Games Industry for putting the idea out there earlier this year.

"Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton!" he explained. "He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now."

...

"We're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way," he said. "I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet."

LegatoSkyheart

Shuhei Yoshida sounds like he's in Denial of the Game's Actual Progress.

It's looking like we will see Half Life 3 before we see anything from The Last Guardian.

So it's not on hiatus, there just hasn't been any word or progress for the past 8 years and no word on when the game will ever see the light of day. Or, as normal people would call it...HIATUS!

Hiatus doesn't mean the game was killed. If they are "re-engineering it" (whatever that even means), won't talk about it, have no release date, have let go most of the staff and "waiting for the right time for the game to be re-introduced" then the game is on hiatus. Just like a tv show that isn't technically cancelled but disappears and the networks aren't sure when they will announce when the show will come back.

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#25 EPaul
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I think they are going to rename and put it  on PS4 at this point

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#26 Jag85
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Shuhei Yoshida blaming Jack Tretton... Internal conflict at Sony? 

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.

2009 -2013 is 8 years?
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#28 Jag85
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.Nengo_Flow
2009 -2013 is 8 years?

He must be confusing it with FF Versus XIII?

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#29 Zidaneski
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Pretty much lost all hype until new footage is shown for PS4 version. What's amazing is that even the original concept is something we haven't seen in any other game similar to how Shadow of the Colossus still has no equal. So if the game ever comes out me and everyone I know will be there to pick it up.

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#30 cfisher2833
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As much as I hate to say it, Sony should have axed the whole project over a year ago. It's obviously a disaster. The very fact that they haven't been able to show anything of the game--not a trailer, not a five minute gameplay vid, NOTHING--within the span of four years should have tipped the execs off at Sony. 

 

I know Sony is generally pretty lenient with their devs and don't like to interfere much, but at some point, you have to wake up and pull the plug.

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this overdevelopment is a sure sign of a terrible game.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.Nengo_Flow
2009 -2013 is 8 years?

SOTC was released 8 years ago.

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It's just a little disappointing how Sony gaves the boot to Liverpool and Zipper Interactive but keep around a team who hasn't released a single game in the past 9 years.

NexApex

Team ICO is a legend in gaming with only two games released. Liverpool and Zipper were not

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#34 WilliamRLBaker
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Really?
Then thats even sadder news.

I can understand a hiatus fine you had to stop development to work on other things or to wait till technology caught up to your vision but its still in development? you have no reason for taking 8 years to produce this game you could have limited your vision to produce your vision or split your vision up into multiple games so as to produce something as close to your vision on the available hardware.

 

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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.

2009 -2013 is 8 years?

It has been in development since shortly after Shadow of the Colossus released. That was October 2005. And you call yourself a Sony fan.
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#36 cain006
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The people in charge of making that game are morons.

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#37 TheTruthIsREAL
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TLG lives on. I can't wait to see some new footage. The only ones who see bad news out of this are the people who look for troubles. That describes most on SW :)
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Then it'll look even more fantastic on PS4. Come on Team ICO, make it happen! 

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So... is this another FF 13 Versus scenario where it just migrates to the PS4?

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they should just cancel FF13 versus and the last guardian it's too late they will turn out like DNF.
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#40 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.

2009 -2013 is 8 years?

You thought just because they revealed it in 09, that's when development started? lol. just lol.
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http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/10/03/the-last-guardian-was-never-on-hiatus

Despite rumours to the contrary, it appears that The Last Guardian was never actually on hiatus.

That's according to Sony's Shuhei Yoshida, who pointed the finger at Sony America's Jack Tretton during an interview with Games Industry for putting the idea out there earlier this year.

"Hiatus, I never... It was Jack Tretton!" he explained. "He used that term, and I said no, hiatus is misleading. It was a hiatus in terms of releasing new information. The game has never stopped - the team has always been here. They're going through the re-engineering of the game, so the team size is smaller, because it's more engineering focused right now."

...

"We're waiting for the right time to re-introduce The Last Guardian in an appropriate way," he said. "I can't... Well, the game is in development, and it's well staffed, and Ueda-san is here, working - even though he's not a Sony employee, he's dedicated to the product. But we're not ready to update yet."

LegatoSkyheart

Shuhei Yoshida sounds like he's in Denial of the Game's Actual Progress.

It's looking like we will see Half Life 3 before we see anything from The Last Guardian.

Yoshida would know alot more about the game's development than Tretton, who would only know what Yoshida tells him. 

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#42 CJ_ofCamelot
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Lems don't like to hear this news guys..
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It is amazing this game is still being hyped in any form at all. The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. Can you imagine if this game was a multiplate and being vaporware the way it is? It would be a joke on the level of Duke Nukem.CanYouDiglt

 

pretty much

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is amazing this game is still being hyped in any form at all. The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. Can you imagine if this game was a multiplate and being vaporware the way it is? It would be a joke on the level of Duke Nukem.tastetheacidmil

 

pretty much

So it's not even remotely possible that it's hyped because people just happen to enjoy Shadow of the Colossus ? A game that has inspired other developers.... 

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is amazing this game is still being hyped in any form at all. The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. Can you imagine if this game was a multiplate and being vaporware the way it is? It would be a joke on the level of Duke Nukem.tastetheacidmil

 

pretty much

No, not pretty much that.

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Maybe showing some progress people might be convinced.

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I hope it will be for the PS4.....i don't see any reason to release this game on PS3.
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#48 tastetheacidmil
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[QUOTE="tastetheacidmil"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]It is amazing this game is still being hyped in any form at all. The only reason this game is hyped is because of Sony fanboys and the game is exclusive. Can you imagine if this game was a multiplate and being vaporware the way it is? It would be a joke on the level of Duke Nukem.Clock-w0rk

 

pretty much

No, not pretty much that.

to you maybe
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#49 Jag85
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[QUOTE="Nengo_Flow"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]So... it's been in development for eight years. Let's hope this isn't the next DNF.foxhound_fox
2009 -2013 is 8 years?

It has been in development since shortly after Shadow of the Colossus released. That was October 2005.

And you call yourself a Sony fan.

The Last Guardian began development in 2007, six years ago, and was revealed in 2009, four years ago.

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#50 Jag85
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[QUOTE="StrifeDelivery"]

So... is this another FF 13 Versus scenario where it just migrates to the PS4?

metal_zombie

they should just cancel FF13 versus and the last guardian it's too late they will turn out like DNF.

FF Versus XIII has already been revived as FF XV...

Anyway, I think what was affecting both FF Versus XIII and The Last Guardian is something called "writer's block", a condition often faced by quite a lot of writers/artists/developers.