The Future of Xbox One S - The End or a New Beginning?

So here is a first for me, a post on the 'school playground' that is 'System Wars'. A video from Euro Gamer's Digital Foundry about the poor old Xbox One S.

Let me just clear something up here before you attack me. I'm a 'Gamer', I play on all sorts of consoles and computer's, I'm not a hardcore fan of any particular one. I own an Xbox One X, a Switch and and I've recently built a new gaming PC.

Howdy there mister, this ain't a school playground. This is the wild west, partner. Every man for hisself. There's only room for one crew 'round these parts, so be careful who you roll with. One misstep and you might find yourself in bad company. Then it's just you, them, and your pistols, and believe me son there'll be a whole lot of firing.

I reckon you'll do well, just aim for the head and work on your quick draw.

It was bound to happen as ambitions grow the weakest console suffers especially if its not the leading money maker. 3rd party seemed to have lost a care for it a bit. As they say the base ps4 has common setup with the upgrades and is the leading start point for 3rd party development. In SW though everyone has upgraded to the X. I don't care I still only have the base consoles.

Do they even make the original Xbox One anymore?

@Pedro: No, just slim and X

I think they are talking about the One S.

I actually watched the video.

DF admits the switch isn’t a console.

They also admit that switch games are being overrated. The guy even says: “If Wolfenstien 2 on switch was released on the other systems looking like that, it would have been bashed and got lower scores”.

Once again, the industry continues to give Games on a Nintendo system inflated scores because they have lower standards.

@ajstyles: Way to distort things.

Don't worry lemmings, there is going to be another competitor joining the console race. Some guy who is creating a new console called "mad box". Now, lemmings will have a actual competitor to go against.

The S and even the base PS4 have shown their obvious weak HW, odyssey has really shown them up.

Both base consoles are definitely showing their age... especially XB1. I think once Scarlett comes out, the S will be discontinued relatively quickly and the X will become the base.

@ajstyles: just a question, is it wrong about what they state about wolfenstein 2?

The console factions are just lucky they released mid-gen refreshes of these consoles to try to compete with PC, or else we PC guys would really be having a field day. We already are having one, with obvious things such as RTX coming out and destroying them performance wise, but it could have been way worse for console fanboys.

@DragonfireXZ95: Most people don't care about PCs.

i wonder what MSs thinking was with the design of the x1. i mean the X1 and wiiu have a pretty similar memory setup (using DDR connected to a main chip with 32MB of EDram) so was this a package that was proposed to them by AMDs GPU division to keep costs down (both console also came with an expensive controller)? the 360 also kinda has a similar setup but they still used GDDr for their main memory to keep memory bandwidth as high as possible. they must have known that the X1 setup was going to be a problem.

well anyway lessons clearly learned. i do rag on both mid gen refreshes as i think both shouldn't exist. but taken in isolation the X1X clearly shows that lessons have been learned. the approach for the PS4 and X1X are how consoles should be made today.

as DF mention though its not going away as its going to be used for their streaming service (which makes sense. lower power draw, cooler and so on). so i dont see them making a build of games for the streaming service and not bothering to release it for the X1/X1s.

their speculation on changing it a bit is interesting though. could they replace the current memory setup with GDDR5 and map the ED ram to that (like they have with the X1X?). if they do that could they also replace the edram with more streaming processors to give it a bit of an extra kick.

@hrt_rulz01: X is from a different generation. Is Scarlett just going to be a suped up Xbox One? Don't understand this notion that One X will be forward compatible. Wouldn't that cannibalize Scarlett sales?

@ajstyles: Pretty stupid comment by them if they really said that.

@Sagemode87: the same people who've bought the x now are not the same people to buy the low end scarlet... they'd likely be buying the higher model.

Yes you PC gamers are having fun with your current generation graphics running on hardware that has next generation performance levels.

Still being dictated by console and it always will be.....