Tales of Zestiria PS4 and PC info, 30fps lock all around

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#1 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

So the devs have released info on PC and PS4 settings in the newest entry in the Tales JRPG series. The most disappointing aspect is a 30fps cap on all platforms. They do sound like they put some effort into the PC version though.

Both the PC and PS4 version will run at a 1920×1080 resolution with PC supporting resolutions up to 4K. Full HD here we come! They also benefit from many other graphical improvements: the draw distance is 2x times what it is on PS3, with the PC version having a “far” option improving it even more. Shadows, anti-aliasing and textures also got upgraded. The PC version will allow you to switch between low, medium and high for all the preceding options.

It’s now time to talk about the framerate; all versions of Tales of Zestiria will run at a constant 30 frames per second. Before you run off to the comment section, hear us out! The Tales of battle system has always been an integral part of the gameplay experience, and changing the framerate proved to have profound consequences on things like: animation, balance, difficulty, and overall fighting mechanics tuning. We do this in the best interest for the players’ experience!

Sucks that they didn't make the game work at 60fps, probably because it's coming from a PS3 release (?)

The game is set to release in the West in October on PS3/PS4/PC...no X1 version because JRPG

Source

Oh and here is a first 15 minutes of gameplay video (PS4)

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#2 Edited by RMCP (69 posts) -

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

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#3 Edited by deactivated-58ce94803a170 (8822 posts) -

O hells no you dont, ill have my 4K 120fps. You shall feel the wraith of Lord Gaben soon enough, descend my dear Angels, free the locked souls once again.

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#4 Posted by BlueEyedCasva (563 posts) -

Is it me but Japanese developer seem to have this issue with the whole frame rate being tied with their animation

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#5 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@rmcp said:

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

Depends how much 60fps may screw with the game

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#6 Posted by RMCP (69 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@rmcp said:

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

Depends how much 60fps may screw with the game

True. Although if it was originally envisioned for 60 and they brought it down to 30 fps just because of last gen consoles as you suggested; then it shouldn't be much of an issue I would assume.

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#7 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@rmcp said:
@lostrib said:
@rmcp said:

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

Depends how much 60fps may screw with the game

True. Although if it was originally envisioned for 60 and they brought it down to 30 fps just because of last gen consoles as you suggested; then it shouldn't be much of an issue I would assume.

it was originally released in japan on PS3 earlier this year

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#8 Edited by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

**** off.

@blueeyedcasva said:

Is it me but Japanese developer seem to have this issue with the whole frame rate being tied with their animation

JP devs have an issue with pc development all over.

Locked frame rates, low amount of options, fucked up k/m controls, graphics being worse than their console counterparts.

Seriously, go check One Piece Pirate Warriros gfx comparisons between pc and ps4.

Jesus, Ubisoft has a problem with optimization, but their games are atleast filled with options all around.

In contrast, japanese devs are a fucking nightmare in pc ports. Square Enix, Tecmo, Namco, Arc System Works, etc.

Just go look up FF Type.0's k/m controls system. WTF?! They're awful.

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#9 Posted by deactivated-5b0367b217732 (1697 posts) -

If it's locked at 30, I'll just buy it for the PS4...

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#10 Edited by BlueEyedCasva (563 posts) -

@deadline-zero0 said:

**** off.

@blueeyedcasva said:

Is it me but Japanese developer seem to have this issue with the whole frame rate being tied with their animation

JP devs have an issue with pc development all over.

Locked frame rates, low amount of options, fucked up k/m controls, graphics being worse than their console counterparts.

Seriously, go check One Piece Pirate Warriros gfx comparisons between pc and ps4.

Jesus, Ubisoft has a problem with optimization, but their games are atleast filled with options all around.

In contrast, japanese devs are a fucking nightmare in pc ports. Square Enix, Tecmo, Namco, Arc System Works, etc.

Just go look up FF Type.0's k/m controls system. WTF?! They're awful.

I think a lot of this has do with inexperience and rushing the game to meet deadline but games like VC showed JP developer can do a port well if they put effort into them.

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#11 Posted by MonsieurX (39062 posts) -

@rmcp said:

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

Oh look,a new alt.

-God- ?

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#12 Posted by RMCP (69 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:
@rmcp said:

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

Oh look,a new alt.

-God- ?

Nope. A new guy browsing these ridiculous threads putting braggy console plebs in their place.

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#13 Posted by MonsieurX (39062 posts) -

@rmcp said:
@MonsieurX said:
@rmcp said:

No idea what this game is, but most likely there will be a fix for the 30 FPS on PC. One of many advantages of being a PC gamer.

Oh look,a new alt.

-God- ?

Nope. A new guy browsing these ridiculous threads putting braggy console plebs in their place.

Sure.

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#14 Posted by RMCP (69 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:
@rmcp said:

Nope. A new guy browsing these ridiculous threads putting braggy console plebs in their place.

Sure.

Oh man. Some random internet guy doesn't believe me.....I'm dooooooooomed!

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#15 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@rmcp: don't be a goofus

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#16 Posted by MonsieurX (39062 posts) -

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@rmcp: don't be a goofus

I'll need the source on that.

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#17 Posted by DEadliNE-Zero0 (6607 posts) -

@blueeyedcasva: To be fair, that's SEGA, who has put alot of effort into pc development. Also, there are indeed others like KOji pro with MGS 5.

Still, the majority of them are indeed inexperienced. I loved Dark Souls, but that was one shit port, and DS2 still has issues.

Regardless, jp devs should actually take some time to learn pc development all around before porting their games.

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#18 Posted by osan0 (15420 posts) -

i think its going to dawn on the japanese sooner rather than later that tying elemets of the games mecahnics directly to the framerate is just going to be a non runner. did they always know this was going to be on the PS4 too or was it a late decision? in console development it can make sense to tie some systems to framerate (fixed platform) but its all about multiplat development now.

im sure there will be a patch/mod to unlock the framerate but i suspect its going to just lead to some silly youtube videos :P. i wouldnt expect an official fix as i dont think fixing it properly would be trivial.

in fairness there are some japanese developers that are very good with PC and multiplat development, like capcom. whatever about the quality of their actual games, the tech underlying it is robust stuff. capcom started approaching everything with a multiplat mindset last gen and thats paid off.

i hear from software have also come on leaps and bounds. the first dark souls was pretty rough (similar issues to this: unlocked framerate means messed up mechanics) but dark souls 2 was a lot better.

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#19 Edited by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:
@lostrib said:

@rmcp: don't be a goofus

I'll need the source on that.

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#20 Posted by MonsieurX (39062 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@MonsieurX said:
@lostrib said:

@rmcp: don't be a goofus

I'll need the source on that.

10/10

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#21 Posted by musicalmac (25021 posts) -

Does it really matter with a game like this? I don't know, but I don't think I'd care too much.

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#22 Posted by lundy86_4 (53173 posts) -

Grabbing it on the PS4. I can't see it being a huge deal with the PC version considering it's a JRPG.

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#23 Posted by Ten_Pints (3796 posts) -

Looks like a PS2 game.

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#24 Posted by blueinheaven (4487 posts) -

Seriously guys, have any of you even looked at this game? It looks like shit on a fucking shovel on every platform. The PS4 version is a STRAIGHT port of the PS3 version which for its part looks like a PS2 game remastered for PS3.

The PC version lol, you can play it in 1440p or 4k with ridiculously low res textures and ugly artwork whoop de do.

If you want to get excited for a JRPG check out the Star Ocean 5 trailer which looks amazing (though no PC version announced, not yet anyway). This shit belongs on PS2.

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#25 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (29732 posts) -

Not really a huge issue since it's an RPG, but wasn't Tales of Symphonia 60fps?

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#26 Posted by -God- (3627 posts) -

Another best on PC.

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#27 Edited by blueinheaven (4487 posts) -

@-God- said:

Another best on PC.

I remember when trolls were intelligent, creative and amusing and not a tedious, boring complete waste of oxygen like you.

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#28 Posted by -God- (3627 posts) -

@blueinheaven said:
@-God- said:

Another best on PC.

I remember when trolls were intelligent, creative and amusing and not a tedious, boring complete waste of oxygen like you.

Can you factually and objectively refute that statement?

I'm sure that 4k > 1080p, and the insatiable 60fps .ini trick for topping on the butthurt cake.

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#29 Posted by blueinheaven (4487 posts) -

@-God- said:
@blueinheaven said:
@-God- said:

Another best on PC.

I remember when trolls were intelligent, creative and amusing and not a tedious, boring complete waste of oxygen like you.

Can you factually and objectively refute that statement?

I'm sure that 4k > 1080p, and the insatiable 60fps .ini trick for topping on the butthurt cake.

As I have already explained, you can't polish a turd. The graphics absolutely suck donkey balls because the textures are all what you might expect from two gens ago. Running that junk in 4k improves nothing, not that you have a 4k TV or even a PC so I don't know why you're getting involved other than desperately seeking attention again

Some people (not you) might have a 4k monitor so they are recreating the experience of playing on a small screen again which to me is equally hilarious and yes INFERIOR even to 1080p on a large screen HDTV.

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#30 Posted by -God- (3627 posts) -

I'll wait for digital foundry to open ure butthurt all over the floor.

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#31 Edited by Juub1990 (8503 posts) -

@blueinheaven said:
@-God- said:

Another best on PC.

I remember when trolls were intelligent, creative and amusing and not a tedious, boring complete waste of oxygen like you.

Yeah that never was the case. Trolls were just more subtle.

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#32 Posted by rabih55555 (332 posts) -

30fps never bothered me. I'm ok with a that as long it has proper keyboard and mouse support

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#33 Edited by Skelly34 (2353 posts) -

@blueinheaven said:
@-God- said:

Another best on PC.

I remember when trolls were intelligent, creative and amusing and not a tedious, boring complete waste of oxygen like you.

Trolls are successful if they get people asshurt.

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#34 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@LegatoSkyheart said:

Not really a huge issue since it's an RPG, but wasn't Tales of Symphonia 60fps?

I believe the GCN was 60fps, but the PS2 version and PS3 HD version are both 30fps

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#35 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@blueinheaven said:

Seriously guys, have any of you even looked at this game? It looks like shit on a fucking shovel on every platform. The PS4 version is a STRAIGHT port of the PS3 version which for its part looks like a PS2 game remastered for PS3.

The PC version lol, you can play it in 1440p or 4k with ridiculously low res textures and ugly artwork whoop de do.

If you want to get excited for a JRPG check out the Star Ocean 5 trailer which looks amazing (though no PC version announced, not yet anyway). This shit belongs on PS2.

...wasn't really claiming it had good graphics. Just info on the settings and frame cap on all platforms

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#36 Posted by IgGy621985 (5499 posts) -

What's the fuss about this game? It looks like utter shit.

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#37 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@IgGy621985 said:

What's the fuss about this game? It looks like utter shit.

it's part of the Tales JRPG series, which some people like. And it's another JRPG being brought over to PC.

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#38 Posted by blueinheaven (4487 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@blueinheaven said:

Seriously guys, have any of you even looked at this game? It looks like shit on a fucking shovel on every platform. The PS4 version is a STRAIGHT port of the PS3 version which for its part looks like a PS2 game remastered for PS3.

The PC version lol, you can play it in 1440p or 4k with ridiculously low res textures and ugly artwork whoop de do.

If you want to get excited for a JRPG check out the Star Ocean 5 trailer which looks amazing (though no PC version announced, not yet anyway). This shit belongs on PS2.

...wasn't really claiming it had good graphics. Just info on the settings and frame cap on all platforms

I realise that, just pointing out it's probably not worth the time spent thinking about it, IMO obviously.

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#39 Posted by Legend002 (13403 posts) -

I'm fine with this since this wasn't a native PS4 game to begin with; just happy we have it.

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#40 Edited by IgGy621985 (5499 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@IgGy621985 said:

What's the fuss about this game? It looks like utter shit.

it's part of the Tales JRPG series, which some people like. And it's another JRPG being brought over to PC.

Granted, but where's the point with the support for 4K resolutions with those low quality textures?

But if people like the series, cool, I have nothing against it's coming to PC. But I found it kind of weird when the system wars went somewhat mental when it was announced.

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#41 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (29732 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

Not really a huge issue since it's an RPG, but wasn't Tales of Symphonia 60fps?

I believe the GCN was 60fps, but the PS2 version and PS3 HD version are both 30fps

Oh alright, I thought it was 60.

I guesss this is a total nonissue then.

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#42 Posted by jg4xchamp (61569 posts) -

Who cares about the visuals of this games?

It's another tales game, which will play like every other Tales game, it's freakin jrpg call of duty, which I'm sure some jrpg pleb would like to defend with "but the story", of which is like 3rd grade anime tier crap.

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#43 Posted by LJS9502_basic (166462 posts) -

@lostrib said:
@IgGy621985 said:

What's the fuss about this game? It looks like utter shit.

it's part of the Tales JRPG series, which some people like. And it's another JRPG being brought over to PC.

Interesting. I hope it wasn't PC gamers slagging off PS4 owners that were excited for JRPGs then.

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#44 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@jg4xchamp said:

Who cares about the visuals of this games?

It's another tales game, which will play like every other Tales game, it's freakin jrpg call of duty, which I'm sure some jrpg pleb would like to defend with "but the story", of which is like 3rd grade anime tier crap.

Probably people interested in purchasing it

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#45 Posted by flashn00b (3611 posts) -

So begins our collective inability to outgrow the "buy X so Y can't be on PC" mentality...

It get that people are upset that they're stuck with sub-optimal performance on a sub-$1K machine, though i feel that it is necessary to explain that there's a much bigger picture than 60FPS and more Tales games on Steam combined.

Because of the creators of Disgaea testing the waters of PC gaming with an unrelated PSP dungeon crawler and failed spectacularly, there has been the fear that if you don't support a Japanese developer on Steam, they'll never make a PC game. This pretty much allowed Arc System Works to prey on the demand for the newest BlazBlue game, release anything other than newest BlazBlue and get away with it. A year after Calamity Trigger's release and being drip-fed dotEmu ports of ASW fighters from the PS2, we see Final Fantasy XIII, which similarly had people clamor around the game so that FF Type 0 and/or XV can be on Steam.

Fast forward to early 2015, Rise of Incarnates leaves its closed beta and enters Early Access. At the time of Tales of Zestiria's PC announcement, RoI was looking like an excuse to never bring a Tales game to Steam a la Cladun X2 to Disgaea. the fact that said announcement happened is an indication that we can eventually stop being expected to like one game out of the vain hope that we might get the one we want, provided that Tales of Zestiria catches on.

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#46 Posted by wolverine4262 (20832 posts) -

Last one I played was Vesperia on 360. Might pick it up on PC if its decent.

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#47 Posted by ruthaford_jive (518 posts) -

@lostrib: As long as it is a consistent 30 fps, I don't care. This game is on my radar though. Been a while since I got a good JRPG. Can't decide whether to get it for PS4 or PC though.

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#48 Posted by p3anut (6295 posts) -

It's sad to see the Tales series gone to shit after Symphonia. I heard Vesperia was good but I never got to play it. At least it's coming to PC so the game will be dirt cheap in a couple of months or a year.

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#49 Posted by bulby_g (1855 posts) -

I'm OK with that TBH, will be cheaper on PC and helps delay the need to buy a PS4 a bit longer. :P

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#50 Posted by flashn00b (3611 posts) -
@p3anut said:

It's sad to see the Tales series gone to shit after Symphonia. I heard Vesperia was good but I never got to play it. At least it's coming to PC so the game will be dirt cheap in a couple of months or a year.

That is assuming that Bandai Namco Studios aren't as dumb as Nippon Ichi Software. Then again, the former's parent company thinks that we prefer Spike Chunsoft's crappy Gundam wannabe over a game that's actually made by the Gundam VS team.