SWTOR is EA's "largest ever" project

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#1 doobie1975
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"BioWare's Star Wars: The Old Republic is the most expensive game ever created at EA.

The publisher's chief banker Eric Brown described the MMO as the "largest ever development project, period, in the history of the company".

He said a packaged game usually costs around $30m to make at EA, but "any MMO costs significantly more than that".

When asked by a member of the Wedbush Morgan Securities audience in New York today how the cost compared to World of Warcraft, Brown said Blizzard spent "$100 million, perhaps more" to ship the game in 2004.

"That's lifetime [research and development] to actually ship it and obviously then there's maintenance subsequent to ship and expansion packs," Brown added.

These days, WOW makes around $100m a month from subscriptions. EA no doubt hopes SWTOR will recoup costs in a similar fashion.

"MMOs are sizeable undertakings," quipped Brown.

EA is steering Star Wars: The Old Republic towards a spring 2011 release. Take that with a pinch of salt, as these things slip."

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/swtor-is-eas-largest-ever-project

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#2 Lto_thaG
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I hope it's gonna be succesful.That's a lot of money.

I do remember playing SW:Galaxies though :P

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#3 Hahadouken
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There is a LOT riding on this game. I have extremely high hopes for it, it's an MMO I will actually play.
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#4 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I hope it's gonna be succesful.That's a lot of money. I do remember playing SW:Galaxies though :P

Boooo, you can't compare Galaxies and this.....booooooo I'm on the hope train right now, lets see where it goes.
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#5 lundy86_4
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I'm excited for this game. It looks to be very interesting, so hopefully it does well.

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[QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I hope it's gonna be succesful.That's a lot of money. I do remember playing SW:Galaxies though :P

Boooo, you can't compare Galaxies and this.....booooooo I'm on the hope train right now, lets see where it goes.

You can't compare Galaxies to anything,it was thrash in its own league. Just saying it's also a MMO in the SW universe.
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#7 AnObscureName
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I hope they pull it off. The whole "fully voiced" MMO idea was something I thought was great about levels 1-20 of Age of Conan.
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#8 doobie1975
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WoW taking around $100 million a month is insane. no wonder they want a slice of that big fat juicy money pie

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#9 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Ibacai"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]I hope it's gonna be succesful.That's a lot of money. I do remember playing SW:Galaxies though :P

Boooo, you can't compare Galaxies and this.....booooooo I'm on the hope train right now, lets see where it goes.

You can't compare Galaxies to anything,it was thrash in its own league. Just saying it's also a MMO in the SW universe.

Yeah, I understand. I'd just not like this game to launch with the stigma that is Galaxies.
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#10 solidgamer
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I guess that Blizz will release news of there new MMO in 2011.
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#11 Franko_3
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Let's hope they will upgrade the graphical engine with that kind of money. For a 100+ millions mmo, it looks terrible, worst than WoW at release...
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#12 Lto_thaG
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Yeah, I understand. I'd just not like this game to launch with the stigma that is Galaxies.Ibacai

I think the whole Galaxy can agree with that.

Hur hur.

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#13 Ibacai
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Let's hope they will upgrade the graphical engine with that kind of money. For a 100+ millions mmo, it looks terrible, worst than WoW at release...Franko_3
Are you talking art style or technical? Because one is subjective and the other means you're blind.
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#14 osan0
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so about the same cost as GTA4. its a big gamble. obhiously any company would kill for blizzards success. roughly 10 million people paying 14 quid a month or so.....its not only a hell of alot of income..its also reliable and predictable and constant. its good to see that EA are taking this very seriously. they also have alot of experience with MMOs (ultima online..which is still going) so they will be able to help bioware with the design (in this case..the publisher will actually proove useful for dvelopment....now theres a first :P) and business end of things. if this works and works well then EAs future is essentially assured. will it work? well before WOW was released.....everyone thought SOE would remian the alpha dog with everquest and everquest 2. they were supposed to remain the biggest player in the western MMO scene. look what happened. so thers a chance itll work.
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This might be the first MMO that I give an honest shot. Co-Op dialog trees seems interesting and Bio-Ware still has yet to put out a crappy game imo.
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Hopefully the dough gets racked in to conclude the KOTOR storyline then :D (no TOR =/= KOTOR 3 >:( )
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#17 Ibacai
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Hopefully the dough gets racked in to conclude the KOTOR storyline then :D (no TOR =/= KOTOR 3 >:( )moose_knuckler
They are going back to Taris and hinted heavily at tying in the first two games to this one.
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Well it is the only game in the near future that has the recipe to be able to take on WoW.

They just better not release it right after Cataclysm comes out, that would only hurt em.

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Hopefully the dough gets racked in to conclude the KOTOR storyline then :D (no TOR =/= KOTOR 3 >:( )Ibacai
They are going back to Taris and hinted heavily at tying in the first two games to this one.

Don't kill the dream, man. :'(

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#20 WithoutGraceXII
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Every new thing I see about this game looks so promising. I want it sooooooo bad. Could change the current mmo model forever.
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#21 Diviniuz
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Oblivion MMO > KOTOR MMO
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#22 KristoffBrujah
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So far, so good. I probably won't be picking it up, but hope for Bioware's success in bringing down the evil empire (Activision).

Even just the halving of WoW's revenues, combined with ruin of their band games and bastardization of CoD, could be enough to severely damage Activision.

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#23 Ontain
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Let's hope they will upgrade the graphical engine with that kind of money. For a 100+ millions mmo, it looks terrible, worst than WoW at release...Franko_3
you realize that the more graphically intense the mmo the fewer ppl will actually be able to play it. this is why all blizzard games are technologically primitive. technical graphics are one of the least important things to long term mmorpgers.
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#24 Ontain
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Oblivion MMO > KOTOR MMODiviniuz
honestly there's way too many generic fantasy setting mmorpgs. at least SW:TOR will have it's own niche.
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#25 GhoX
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I do hope that this game will be able to compete against WoW in the long-term, since it's nearly impossible that any game can kill WoW.
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#26 Eddie-Vedder
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Have they showed raiding? Or pvp yet? I haven't seen anything special about this game yet, the whole VO thing is really not going to make an MMO great it needs awesome pvp/pve. I hope it owns but It'll prbably fail, Blizz's next MMO is going to be beast for sure.

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#27 sleepingzzz
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Oblivion MMO > KOTOR MMODiviniuz

HAHAHA good joke.

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#28 chaplainDMK
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We'll see.

Warhammer: Age of Reckoning didnt realy do all that well.

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#29 GhoX
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Have they showed raiding? Or pvp yet? I haven't seen anything special about this game yet, the whole VO thing is really not going to make an MMO great it needs awesome pvp/pve. I hope it owns but It'll prbably fail, Blizz's next MMO is going to be beast for sure.

Eddie-Vedder
If it showed raiding and PvP just like any other MMO, and focuses blindly on PvP and PvE just like any other MMO, what would be special about that? Blizzard's next MMO, while it may be attractive to some people, will more likely than not just be a copy of WoW. BioWare has stated since the beginning and throughout all the demonstrations that this game will be focused on storyline. I'm not exactly sure how that may work, but it sounds interesting and definitely unique.
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#30 Racer_XLR
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Have they showed raiding? Eddie-Vedder

No.

They have talked about it but they haven't shown anything yet. As far as I know. . .

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#31 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

Have they showed raiding? Or pvp yet? I haven't seen anything special about this game yet, the whole VO thing is really not going to make an MMO great it needs awesome pvp/pve. I hope it owns but It'll prbably fail, Blizz's next MMO is going to be beast for sure.

GhoX
If it showed raiding and PvP just like any other MMO, and focuses blindly on PvP and PvE just like any other MMO, what would be special about that? Blizzard's next MMO, while it may be attractive to some people, will more likely than not just be a copy of WoW. BioWare has stated since the beginning and throughout all the demonstrations that this game will be focused on storyline. I'm not exactly sure how that may work, but it sounds interesting and definitely unique.

Dude do you play MMO's? How is a good storyline going to hold gamers interest? MMO gamers spend a boat load of hours in those virtual worlds, they need a really good base for pvp and pve, the storytelling aspect even if amazing won't be enough. My first year playing WoW I'd play like 8 hours a day, I had like 3 months playtime in 1 year, this because of how much the community sucked you in in terms of pvp, pve and just plain fooling around, this game will need great gameplay ideas, focusing too much on story will probably backfire on them. I hope they release an awesome vid showing pvp and pve tho. I'd be happy to get "owned" :P
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#32 Fizzman
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I just hope the playerbase is like EQ and nothing like WoW. I view WoW as a quarantine zone for the slow people of the world.

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#33 darthogre
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I do remember playing SW:Galaxies though :P

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Which version......they revamped it so many times it was so different (and horrible at that) everytime they changed it. They better pray it's nothing like Galaxies (at least when they completely revamped everything for casual gamers (making Jedi a starting class.......that alone has to be the biggest goof I've ever seen)
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#34 SparkyProtocol
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We'll see.

Warhammer: Age of Reckoning didnt realy do all that well.

chaplainDMK
That's because it was rushed by EA so they had to cut content and the coding was sloppy.
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#35 BattleTurtles
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If this game flops, then Bioware will be done for.
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#36 Vandalvideo
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Every new thing I see about this game looks so promising. I want it sooooooo bad. Could change the current mmo model forever.WithoutGraceXII
How will voices change the MMO model forever?
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#37 OmegaTau
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and it will still get creamed by wow

not saying its a good thing but its just fact

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#38 doobie1975
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I just hope the playerbase is like EQ and nothing like WoW. I view WoW as a quarantine zone for the slow people of the world.

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so your saying im a moron for playing WoW
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#39 dommeus
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There is a LOT riding on this game. I have extremely high hopes for it, it's an MMO I will actually play.Hahadouken
Agreed