Stress wave continues. Digital Foundry's best looking game of the year is HORIZON FORBIDDEN WEST. 12tflops for what?

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#1  Edited By hardwenzen
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Hermits and their $10k NASA pc's got rolled this year. Lemmings and their 12tflops got humiliated yet again. Sheep and their visuals from 15 years ago weren't even mentioned.

Not only has Sony has given us the best looking game of the year, but it happens to be an open world game at that, which is even more impressive. This is what talent does, it wins.

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#2 dabear
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I forgot that game existed.

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#3 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

I forgot that game existed.

I forgot Xbox exclusives existed.

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#4 thedork_knight
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Yeah all style no substance. Hardly best open world game when ER is about.

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#5 dabear
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@hardwenzen: I mean, there were no AAA Xbox 1st party games released in 2022, so Sony won (console wise) by default.

It's kinda silly to claim some sort of "platform victory" when there weren't any Xbox 1st party entries.

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#6 hardwenzen
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@thedork_knight said:

Yeah all style no substance. Hardly best open world game when ER is about.

Who is talking about the best game? This is about visuals, as in the best game technically. HFW sends ER to the moon with their visuals from 2010.

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#7 hardwenzen
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: I mean, there were no AAA Xbox 1st party games released in 2022, so Sony won (console wise) by default.

It's kinda silly to claim some sort of "platform victory" when there weren't any Xbox 1st party entries.

As i mentioned, 12tflops for what?🤡

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#8 sealionact
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Yay. Graphics.

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#9 Chutebox
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Not surprised. Gorgeous game that is incredibly fun.

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#10 uninspiredcup
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@sealionact said:

Yay. Graphics.

98% Sony games.

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#11 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

Yay. Graphics.

When you don't have em, you pretend like they're not important. Typical lemming, masters of hypocrisy. You got rolled by 9.2tflops system in 2022. This is pathetic.

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#12 MyCatIsMilk
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@dabear said:

I forgot that game existed.

Elden Ring killed any knowledge of it existing.

OP: Too bad graphics doesn't equate to a fun game. I tried playing the first and fell off almost immediately.

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#13 hardwenzen
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As a side note, i would like Santa Monica to use this engine for the next God of War game.

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#14 Archangel3371
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Saw this video earlier and yep, it’s a great looking game indeed. Most games look great these days though anyway even most games on the Switch. While I do enjoy the Horizon games there are plenty games that are just better games overall that I would much rather play. Funny to see the TC boasting about this though considering how it resembles an “Ubisoft” style of game. 😅

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#15 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Oh they’re nice to look at. I spent a good 20 minutes watching them on YouTube…but it’s a game, not a movie which is one of the reasons why you didn’t buy it. Babaam.

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#16 Pedro
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Too bad it didn't play great.😎

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#17 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Oh they’re nice to look at. I spent a good 20 minutes watching them on YouTube…but it’s a game, not a movie which is one of the reasons why you didn’t buy it. Babaam.

Watching on youtube was your primary gameplay in 2022, so you're not giving me any new info i didn't know. Questions is; were you holding a controller to be more immersed when watching said youtube vids, bro?

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#18 KathaarianCode
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Still a shitty game.

In fact the funniest story of the year was when butt hurt developers from HFW went to twitter to cry about how Elden Ring was hurting their feelings for being so much better.

Also interesting that a game "compromised" for being on the PS4 ends up being the best looking game.

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#19 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: You don’t rate it because you didn’t buy it. Graphics not enough to convince you to buy it? Point proven.

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#20 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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I'll wait for the PC version. HZD was my GOTY whenever it came out.

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#21  Edited By hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: You don’t rate it because you didn’t buy it. Graphics not enough to convince you to buy it? Point proven.

I buy what interests me, not what interests somebody else. I understand this is not how you purchase your titles because MS is starving you with exclusives, so when something does come out, you jump on it likes its the second coming (Forza is a perfect example of this). Pathetic.

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#22 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: So hzd didn’t interest you despite the graphics. Got it.

We basically agree then.

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#23 hardwenzen
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@hardwenzen: So hzd didn’t interest you despite the graphics. Got it.

We basically agree then.

It didn't interest me, but it interested millions of others, and won best visuals of the year. You know what game interested me? The one that won six awards in a single award show. You will never see that happening with anything MS can release.

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@dabear: LOL and the game looks like ass, doesn't hold a candle to MSFS20, or halo infinite.

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#25 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: You’re deflecting onto GoW now? The subject is HzD’s graphics. Graphics play very little role in how much I enjoy a game. Games like Assasins creed, Spider-Man and HzD have great graphics, but mundane gameplay….that’s my point and you agree.

Stop arguing with yourself.

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#26 hardwenzen
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@dabear: LOL and the game looks like ass, doesn't hold a candle to MSFS20, or halo infinite.

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#27 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: You’re deflecting onto GoW now? The subject is HzD’s graphics. Graphics play very little role in how much I enjoy a game. Games like Assasins creed, Spider-Man and HzD have great graphics, but mundane gameplay….that’s my point and you agree.

Stop arguing with yourself.

You were interested in what i like. I told you, its Ragnarok, a six time award winner. HZD trashed the visuals of everything on the X, and that's undeniable. Just look at how piss poor the visuals and animations are in Infinite when compared to HZD. Its generations apart.

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#28 blaznwiipspman1
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@hardwenzen: the funny thing for that super cow John Lindemann of df, 2021 graphics of the year was crotchety, and this year is horizon forgotten worst. He lost all credibility. Halo infinite blows both games away, and MSFS is on another level.

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#29 hardwenzen
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen: the funny thing for that super cow John Lindemann of df, 2021 graphics of the year was crotchety, and this year is horizon forgotten worst. He lost all credibility. Halo infinite blows both games away, and MSFS is on another level.

Literally animations from Halo 2. Infinite is incredibly outdated.

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Standard fanboy trigger thread. Hold on, lemme go grab my popcorn.

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#32 BassMan
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@hardwenzen:

What about God of War Ragnarok? If Sony games are so great and their studios so talented, why did it not make the list at all?

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#33 hardwenzen
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@BassMan said:

@hardwenzen:

What about God of War Ragnarok? If Sony games are so great and their studios so talented, why did it not make the list at all?

Because the only good thing about it (visually) is the art direction. PS4 DNA is way too strong in that one.

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#34 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Nope, I asked you if the graphics in hzd were enough to convince you - a hardcore Sony fanboy - to buy it. It wasn’t. You bought up GoW in an attempt to deflect from what we both know - graphics aren’t the be all and end all in a game.

Instead of actually trying to comprehend my point, you’re just that small minded that your ego refuses to get out of fanboy mode.

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#35 above_average
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@dabear said:

@hardwenzen: I mean, there were no AAA Xbox 1st party games released in 2022, so Sony won (console wise) by default.

It's kinda silly to claim some sort of "platform victory" when there weren't any Xbox 1st party entries.

So, what happened in 2020? What about 2021?

lol I swear before this generation started xbox fans were beating their chest about how Xbox Series X was going to be having the best looking games of the generation and all types of nonsense but their games can barely even get nominated.

After all that complaining about Collisto Protocol from people here because if performed best on PS5, it still ended up being nominated #2 best graphics of the year over 30fps Plague Tale Requiem praised by the same people.

Graphics GOTY 2020 Demon's Souls

Graphics GOTY 2021 Ratchet n Clank Rift Apart

Graphics GOTY 2022 Horizon Forbidden West

Graphics GOTY 2023? Let's see xbox has Starfield and Redfall...tsk

No matter what game wins, it's 100% guaranteed to be a Sony/PS5 title.

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#36 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Nope, I asked you if the graphics in hzd were enough to convince you - a hardcore Sony fanboy - to buy it. It wasn’t. You bought up GoW in an attempt to deflect from what we both know - graphics aren’t the be all and end all in a game.

Instead of actually trying to comprehend my point, you’re just that small minded that your ego refuses to get out of fanboy mode.

Stop making shit up. Ragnarok is a better game. I bought Ragnarok. HZD is a much better and more impressive looking titles, and won the best looking title of 2022. Millions have enjoyed that game, but not me, its not for me. One thing for sure, tho, both titles are SONY EXCLUSIVES and you can't touch them.

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#37 above_average
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@uninspiredcup said:
@sealionact said:

Yay. Graphics.

98% Sony games.

Aren't you a PC enthusiast? lol they irony of downplaying graphics from a guy on your side. It's really sour grapes.

I've seen people here argue ESPECIALLY you PC folk. Your arguments are 98% bragging about better graphics than consoles yada yada.

But yes, 98% of Sony games do look better than your honored PC titles.

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#38 dabear
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@above_average: You staking me, alt boy?

DF had a list in 2021, and Forza Horizon 5 was on it. They had a list in 2020 - and Filight Simulator was on it.

Try harder.

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#39 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Please feel free to point out what “shit” I made up.

A simple “Yay. Graphics” comment triggered you so much that you went on a rant about GoW, Halo and sales figures….

Gameplay makes a game. A game with great gameplay and great graphics is a great game.

A game with great graphics is a game with great graphics…..and that wasn’t enough for you or the vast majority of ps gamers to buy it, because a game with great gameplay and middling graphics came out and stole its thunder….that’s the game that you spent 100s of hours on and you spent zero hours on hzd fw.

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#40 uninspiredcup
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@above_average said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@sealionact said:

Yay. Graphics.

98% Sony games.

Aren't you a PC enthusiast? lol they irony of downplaying graphics from a guy on your side. It's really sour grapes.

I've seen people here argue ESPECIALLY you PC folk. Your arguments are 98% bragging about better graphics than consoles yada yada.

But yes, 98% of Sony games do look better than your honored PC titles.

As a pc user, i'm well above console users.

I've earned this entitlement.

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#41 hardwenzen
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@sealionact said:

@hardwenzen: Please feel free to point out what “shit” I made up.

A simple “Yay. Graphics” comment triggered you so much that you went on a rant about GoW, Halo and sales figures….

Gameplay makes a game. A game with great gameplay and great graphics is a great game.

A game with great graphics is a game with great graphics…..and that wasn’t enough for you or the vast majority of ps gamers to buy it, because a game with great gameplay and middling graphics came out and stole its thunder….that’s the game that you spent 100s of hours on and you spent zero hours on hzd fw.

Everything you say is made up bs, bro. You're always finding a way to bash Sony because they're constantly winning. Just look at your first hypocrite post in this thread. Been praising your google maps game for over a year for its visuals, and all of a sudden, graphics don't matter.

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#42 above_average
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@uninspiredcup said:
@above_average said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@sealionact said:

Yay. Graphics.

98% Sony games.

Aren't you a PC enthusiast? lol they irony of downplaying graphics from a guy on your side. It's really sour grapes.

I've seen people here argue ESPECIALLY you PC folk. Your arguments are 98% bragging about better graphics than consoles yada yada.

But yes, 98% of Sony games do look better than your honored PC titles.

As a pc user, i'm well above console users.

I've earned this entitlement.

lol, ah I see. Well carry on

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#43 above_average
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@dabear said:

@above_average: You staking me, alt boy?

DF had a list in 2021, and Forza Horizon 5 was on it. They had a list in 2020 - and Filight Simulator was on it.

Try harder.

I said barely nominated, Those were the best MS has put out this generation but none of those games even made top 2. lol, how sad.

Do you expect Xbox Series X to deliver next year and win best graphics on the year like you always expected???

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#44 dabear
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@above_average: I don't care if xbox ever wins best graphics, game play and story are far more important.

But, XSX is still more powerful than PS5.

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#45  Edited By above_average
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@dabear said:

@above_average: I don't care if xbox ever wins best graphics, game play and story are far more important.

But, XSX is still more powerful than PS5.

Gameplay and story are far more important for games, which Sony/PS5 titles are also far superior over MS/xbox in, going by all unbias metrics.

Yes, XSX has a more powerful GPU, but the system as a whole has not measured up to smart architecture of the PS5 in real world games.

PS5 has delivered the best looking games every year of this new generation (again, not just my opinion, backed up by all unbias sources) but you're here clinging on to a power narrative that even MS own developers can't deliver on.

Let me ask you 3 questions:

1. what ever happened to Xbox Series X 25Tflops of RT power?

2. That was another claim made by MS promoting XSX, do you still believe that marketing line?

3. Where is the ray-tracing in Halo Infinite that MS promised was coming? Do you believe it will ever come?

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PC gamers spent $10 grand on their rig and they can’t even play this 🤣

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#47  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@dabear said:

I forgot that game existed.

I forgot Xbox first party existed

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#48 dabear
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@above_average: LoL. Nice try, bro.

XSX > PS5. Suck it up and deal.

Sony 1st party bloated with movie games.

All your talking points are boring to me, they've been discussed to death. Your acting like a cookie-cutter cow. Get some new material.

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#49 sealionact
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@hardwenzen: Lol….you’re so triggered you don’t even know where you are. I didn’t mention msfs, that was blazn.

There’s my point. Msfs was amazing to look at, and I played it for a couple of hours. If hzd fw was on psplus and you subscribed, you’d play it …. But much like tlou, Spider-Man, days gone and that shogun game, you didn’t buy it because graphics don’t impress you that much - you only get moist when a game that you have no interest in gets an award for what we already know - nice visuals, middling game.

Again you’re arguing with yourself, and make sure you know who you’re replying to this time.

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#50 hardwenzen
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Lems getting fried😂😂😂