Starfield will become better and better on PC but stays shit on Xbox.

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#1 me2002
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People are already modding the hell out of it, a month ago.

Not just better models, graphics, performance, but there will be any content you can think of.

Look at what they did to Skyrim.

Sorry Xbox users, you're stuck with......."Starfield".

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#2 KvallyX
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Stays shit? It has to be shit on Xbox before it can stay shit. BTW, Xbox is getting mods as well.

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#3  Edited By jcafcwbb
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Why should Bathesda bother making a proper game when they can half-arse it and let the people who buy the game finish it for them?

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#4 Archangel3371
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Hooray! Another Starfield thread, just what we needed. 😅

All games can be made “better” with mods on PC. This isn’t news. Having said that I will enjoy Starfield on my XSX just fine, thank you very much. 😎

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#5  Edited By hardwenzen
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The game is a PC exclusive, as i said so months before release.

If you played the game on the X, just like me, you haven't actually played the game. Hell, its even worse, you pretend to have played the game, while i don't.

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#6  Edited By PCLover1980
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5 months is too long for the Creation Kit. Pick up the pace, Bethesda.

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#7 Pedro
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Damn! Starfield really has gotten under the Sony faction's skin. 😂

Now if only the game was shit.😎

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#8  Edited By me2002
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The funny thing

@jcafcwbb said:

Why should Bathesda bother making a proper game when they can half-arse it and let the people who buy the game finish it for them?

The funny thing is, StarField would have had a 92+ Metascore and a 9 Gamespot score if it launched 4 weeks ago with mods insteaad of 6 weeks ago. But that's just how it works.

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#10  Edited By Saint-George
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@me2002 said:

People are already modding the hell out of it, a month ago.

Not just better models, graphics, performance, but there will be any content you can think of.

Look at what they did to Skyrim.

Sorry Xbox users, you're stuck with......."Starfield".

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STARFIELD will remain..

GAMESPOT 7️⃣ = GOOD

Metacritic 75-89 Generally favorable

75–89

One of these days a cow is gonna make a factual thread,but not here,not today!

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#11  Edited By lamprey263
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Apparently cows finished Spider-Man 2 already as it was only 4‐6 hours of gameplay without the cutscenes 🤣

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#12 Fedor  Online
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Typical Bethesda design, release half baked and let the modders fix it.

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#13 KvallyX
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https://bethesda.net/en/game/starfield/article/3DKJAom2GjFh4P3gprf5E9/starfield-updates-and-mod-support-september-13-2023

Additionally, we are working on our built-in mod support (Creations) that will work across all platforms similar to what we’ve done with Skyrim and Fallout 4. This full support is planned to launch early next year.

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#14 navyguy21
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Starfield mod kit is being released in Q1 of 2024 and will have mod support like Fallout 4.

Modders will fix a ton of things and add content just as they did with Fallout 4.

It will never be as good as the PC version, but it will get better.

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@me2002 said:

People are already modding the hell out of it, a month ago.

Not just better models, graphics, performance, but there will be any content you can think of.

Look at what they did to Skyrim.

Sorry Xbox users, you're stuck with......."Starfield".

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Because there were no Skyrim mods on Xbox. 🥱

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#16 TheEroica  Moderator
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Game of the year.... Nothing else is even close. Despite having Spiderman to play even the Sony Defense Force can't deny they've got Starfield on their mind!

Congrats to Bethesda on a great new ip.... Looking forward to see where Starfield goes from here!

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#17 PCLover1980
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Call me when Xbox gets mods like these.

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#18  Edited By TheEroica  Moderator
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@pclover1980 said:
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Call me when Xbox gets mods like these.

Skyrim Ultima is 2000 mods running at the same time I read. Wtf?

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#19 PCLover1980
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@TheEroica: Yep, and it's actually just called Nolvus. There's an automated installer on their website.

The overhaul isn't exactly my cup of tea, but it just shows how modding is super big on PC, and why Bethesda games are much superior on PC than consoles.

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#20 TheEroica  Moderator
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@TheEroica: Yep, and it's actually just called Nolvus. There's an automated installer on their website.

The overhaul isn't exactly my cup of tea, but it just shows how modding is super big on PC, and why Bethesda games are much superior on PC than consoles.

I agree that Bethesda games get taken to the next level on PC.... Still, I've played every Bethesda game on consoles up to this point and enjoyed every scoop of vanilla they served.

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#21  Edited By dabear
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@me2002: Starfield is awesome on Xbox. So... STFU.

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#22 Antwan3K
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Damn, that was fast.. Cows done with Spiderman 2 already?..

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#23 DaVillain  Moderator
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Well yeah, I'm not sure why this needed a thread and anyone should know by now if you intend to play any of Bethesda games, it should be played on PC. Nothing more, nothing less.

@Antwan3K said:

Damn, that was fast.. Cows done with Spiderman 2 already?..

And the sad part is, you worrying about Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and didn't even factor as to what this thread is really all about.

Don't tell me you Xbox gamers are tired of Starfield? The game itself is really that long if you know what I mean.

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#24  Edited By Antwan3K
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@davillain said:

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@Antwan3K said:

Damn, that was fast.. Cows done with Spiderman 2 already?..

And the sad part is, you worrying about Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and didn't even factor as to what this thread is really all about.

Don't tell me you Xbox gamers are tired of Starfield? The game itself is really that long if you know what I mean.

i'm over 147 hours in and still doing my first playthrough.. but feel free to attempt to draw this direct comparison whenever i stop playing Starfield and make several Spiderman 2 threads..

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#25 lamprey263
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@Antwan3K: "Damn, that was fast.. Cows done with Spiderman 2 already?"

It was only a 4-6 hour game without cutscenes.

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#26  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Any word on Steam workshop support? Would be nice to have these mods available to install trouble-free.

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#27 tjandmia
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You can only polish a turd so much. Enjoy all the mods, I guess, if you're interested in abusing yourself with this waste of time game.

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#28 ShadyAcshuns
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I don't game on PC and never will. I don't care if I can't mod the hell out of game when there are so many out there to enjoy to be stuck on a single game for that long of a time. Games like Starfield and Fallout and ES have more than enough content for normal people to enjoy already.

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#29 ermacness
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@lamprey263 said:

Apparently cows finished Spider-Man 2 already as it was only 4‐6 hours of gameplay without the cutscenes 🤣

And still sitting at a higher score than Starfield here and at MC.

Fancy that.

😎

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#30 Pedro
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Mods are overrated.🤷🏽‍♂️

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#31 PCGamerLaszlo
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Mods can and will make starfield even better with time. Just like Spiderman. Once Spiderman 2 hits PC, we'll mod the hell out of that too.

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#32 neatfeatguy
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I thought Starfield was shit, doesn't matter the platform. It was about as exciting as Skyrim and that game bored the hell out of me....much like Oblivion did. I'd rather play Morrowind. I don't think any mods will make it better, but that clearly is my opinion, to each their own.

If I want to play a good space sim game, I'll launch Freelancer. To my understanding you can still find online servers to join to play multiplayer if that suits your needs.

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#33 GhostOfGolden
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Lems are so defensive lol. You’d think they wouldn’t be so threatened by PC anymore, yet here we are.

Chin up Lems. You still have exclusive “lower than PCs lowest” graphical settings!

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#34  Edited By sonny2dap
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The PC modding experience is definitely the best experience in terms of what you can achieve, however MS was far more accommodating with their console MOD policy than Sony was and it was actually quite impressive how much you could mod on console, Sony could have had exactly the same level of modability in previous Bethesda games had they chosen to be more permissive however that was not to be.

So yes PC will gain ever more extensive mods, no Xbox is not stuck with vanilla in perpetuity.

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#35 tdkmillsy
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Every game is better on PC if you have the money.

The only place Starfield is shit on and will never improve is PS5.

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#36 hardwenzen
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@tdkmillsy said:

Every game is better on PC if you have the money.

The only place Starfield is shit on and will never improve is PS5.

The performance and visuals are so dogwater on your Xbox, that its actually better to not have the game at all than to have a dogwater version.

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#37  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Every game is better on PC if you have the money.

The only place Starfield is shit on and will never improve is PS5.

The performance and visuals are so dogwater on your Xbox, that its actually better to not have the game at all than to have a dogwater version.

Nice try, desperation showing yet again.

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#38  Edited By hardwenzen
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@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Every game is better on PC if you have the money.

The only place Starfield is shit on and will never improve is PS5.

The performance and visuals are so dogwater on your Xbox, that its actually better to not have the game at all than to have a dogwater version.

Nice try, desperation showing yet again.

How the hell am i trying? Do you want me to post you a video of the game running on the X and pc side by side? THe Xbox version is literally unplayable mess. Its you that is so desperate to play something, anything, that you're playing a title in such a messy condition. And guess what? It will never improve until they rerelease it on the next console in 6+ years. Good luck waiting.

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#39  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Every game is better on PC if you have the money.

The only place Starfield is shit on and will never improve is PS5.

The performance and visuals are so dogwater on your Xbox, that its actually better to not have the game at all than to have a dogwater version.

Nice try, desperation showing yet again.

How the hell am i trying? Do you want me to post you a video of the game running on the X and pc side by side? THe Xbox version is literally unplayable mess. Its you that is so desperate to play something, anything, that you're playing a title in such a messy condition. And guess what? It will never improve until they rerelease it on the next console in 6+ years. Good luck waiting.

Its pure desperation.

Its easy to pull any game on PS5/Series X against a top end PC and say the game looks shite.

I'm playing the game on Series X and while they should have at least done a 40fps mode that would be great on my TV. The game plays good enough for those that have no other option.

Pure Desperation, everyone can see it. Please feel free to continue, at least we can all have a laugh as you stop around your mum's basement because PS5 has no future.

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#40 hardwenzen
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@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Every game is better on PC if you have the money.

The only place Starfield is shit on and will never improve is PS5.

The performance and visuals are so dogwater on your Xbox, that its actually better to not have the game at all than to have a dogwater version.

Nice try, desperation showing yet again.

How the hell am i trying? Do you want me to post you a video of the game running on the X and pc side by side? THe Xbox version is literally unplayable mess. Its you that is so desperate to play something, anything, that you're playing a title in such a messy condition. And guess what? It will never improve until they rerelease it on the next console in 6+ years. Good luck waiting.

Its pure desperation.

Its easy to pull any game on PS5/Series X against a top end PC and say the game looks shite.

I'm playing the game on Series X and while they should have at least done a 40fps mode that would be great on my TV. The game plays good enough for those that have no other option.

Pure Desperation, everyone can see it. Please feel free to continue, at least we can all have a laugh as you stop around your mum's basement because PS5 has no future.

False information, and i am not surprised its coming from you. You play a game like gow2018 on a ps5 and then compare it to the pc version, and the difference is nowhere near as humongus as it is with Starfield.

Starfield is literally a game that can't run on the system its made for. Kinda pathetic.

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#41 HalcyonScarlet
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@Antwan3K: 🤣 they finished Spider Man 2 a long time ago. They’re preparing themselves for Wolverine now.

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So many people b!tching they stayed with the creation engine but the engine is actually really powerful.

I've been installing mods since day one.

Having stuff like mod tools and Steam Workshop are big benefits in my eyes and you still have people trying to spin it as a negative e.g.

@jcafcwbb said:

Why should Bathesda bother making a proper game when they can half-arse it and let the people who buy the game finish it for them?

Just some no name account that has been a member here since 2015 and has 500 posts... I smell cow.

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#43 SecretPolice
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Poo cows, just can't get enough Xbox. lol :P

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#44  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Nice try, desperation showing yet again.

How the hell am i trying? Do you want me to post you a video of the game running on the X and pc side by side? THe Xbox version is literally unplayable mess. Its you that is so desperate to play something, anything, that you're playing a title in such a messy condition. And guess what? It will never improve until they rerelease it on the next console in 6+ years. Good luck waiting.

Its pure desperation.

Its easy to pull any game on PS5/Series X against a top end PC and say the game looks shite.

I'm playing the game on Series X and while they should have at least done a 40fps mode that would be great on my TV. The game plays good enough for those that have no other option.

Pure Desperation, everyone can see it. Please feel free to continue, at least we can all have a laugh as you stop around your mum's basement because PS5 has no future.

False information, and i am not surprised its coming from you. You play a game like gow2018 on a ps5 and then compare it to the pc version, and the difference is nowhere near as humongus as it is with Starfield.

Starfield is literally a game that can't run on the system its made for. Kinda pathetic.

What's pathetic is your attempt to claim a game cannot be played when it clear can.

GOW was a PS4 game updated for PS5 and PC. The fact you couldn't play Starfield on a Xbox One makes you example completely pointless, just like you.

Show me a game thats like starfield running on PS5 and PC, oh wait that would be impossible because there isn't one.

Dress it up however you like, in its current form, in any updated form, in any updated Xbox version, will always look better than on PS5.

It must really hurt that you are trying so hard.

Most cows spent 10 hours finishing Spiderman before coming back to this forum, but you chose to stay on here instead of playing the only game to come out on PS5. That says something desperate about you.

But please keep trying its entertaining everyone.

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#45 hardwenzen
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@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Nice try, desperation showing yet again.

How the hell am i trying? Do you want me to post you a video of the game running on the X and pc side by side? THe Xbox version is literally unplayable mess. Its you that is so desperate to play something, anything, that you're playing a title in such a messy condition. And guess what? It will never improve until they rerelease it on the next console in 6+ years. Good luck waiting.

Its pure desperation.

Its easy to pull any game on PS5/Series X against a top end PC and say the game looks shite.

I'm playing the game on Series X and while they should have at least done a 40fps mode that would be great on my TV. The game plays good enough for those that have no other option.

Pure Desperation, everyone can see it. Please feel free to continue, at least we can all have a laugh as you stop around your mum's basement because PS5 has no future.

False information, and i am not surprised its coming from you. You play a game like gow2018 on a ps5 and then compare it to the pc version, and the difference is nowhere near as humongus as it is with Starfield.

Starfield is literally a game that can't run on the system its made for. Kinda pathetic.

What's pathetic is your attempt to claim a game cannot be played when it clear can.

GOW was a PS4 game updated for PS5 and PC. The fact you couldn't play Starfield on a Xbox One makes you example completely pointless, just like you.

Show me a game thats like starfield running on PS5 and PC, oh wait that would be impossible because there isn't one.

Dress it up however you like, in its current form, in any updated form, in any updated Xbox version, will always look better than on PS5.

It must really hurt that you are trying so hard.

Most cows spent 10 hours finishing Spiderman before coming back to this forum, but you chose to stay on here instead of playing the only game to come out on PS5. That says something desperate about you.

But please keep trying its entertaining everyone.

You can't because Bethesda have never heard of the word "optimization"

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#46 Heil68
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StarFlop strikes again. :(

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#47  Edited By pmanden
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@dabear said:

@me2002: Starfield is awesome on Xbox. So... STFU.

Absolutely true. It is awesome on xbox. So I guess it is super awesome on a decent PC.

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#48  Edited By dabear
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@me2002: MOD support is coming Q1 2024 to XBox.

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#49  Edited By tdkmillsy
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@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:

How the hell am i trying? Do you want me to post you a video of the game running on the X and pc side by side? THe Xbox version is literally unplayable mess. Its you that is so desperate to play something, anything, that you're playing a title in such a messy condition. And guess what? It will never improve until they rerelease it on the next console in 6+ years. Good luck waiting.

Its pure desperation.

Its easy to pull any game on PS5/Series X against a top end PC and say the game looks shite.

I'm playing the game on Series X and while they should have at least done a 40fps mode that would be great on my TV. The game plays good enough for those that have no other option.

Pure Desperation, everyone can see it. Please feel free to continue, at least we can all have a laugh as you stop around your mum's basement because PS5 has no future.

False information, and i am not surprised its coming from you. You play a game like gow2018 on a ps5 and then compare it to the pc version, and the difference is nowhere near as humongus as it is with Starfield.

Starfield is literally a game that can't run on the system its made for. Kinda pathetic.

What's pathetic is your attempt to claim a game cannot be played when it clear can.

GOW was a PS4 game updated for PS5 and PC. The fact you couldn't play Starfield on a Xbox One makes you example completely pointless, just like you.

Show me a game thats like starfield running on PS5 and PC, oh wait that would be impossible because there isn't one.

Dress it up however you like, in its current form, in any updated form, in any updated Xbox version, will always look better than on PS5.

It must really hurt that you are trying so hard.

Most cows spent 10 hours finishing Spiderman before coming back to this forum, but you chose to stay on here instead of playing the only game to come out on PS5. That says something desperate about you.

But please keep trying its entertaining everyone.

You can't because Bethesda have never heard of the word "optimization"

Failed attempts at humor to hide your desperation.

nice one.

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@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@hardwenzen said:
@tdkmillsy said:

Its pure desperation.

Its easy to pull any game on PS5/Series X against a top end PC and say the game looks shite.

I'm playing the game on Series X and while they should have at least done a 40fps mode that would be great on my TV. The game plays good enough for those that have no other option.

Pure Desperation, everyone can see it. Please feel free to continue, at least we can all have a laugh as you stop around your mum's basement because PS5 has no future.

False information, and i am not surprised its coming from you. You play a game like gow2018 on a ps5 and then compare it to the pc version, and the difference is nowhere near as humongus as it is with Starfield.

Starfield is literally a game that can't run on the system its made for. Kinda pathetic.

What's pathetic is your attempt to claim a game cannot be played when it clear can.

GOW was a PS4 game updated for PS5 and PC. The fact you couldn't play Starfield on a Xbox One makes you example completely pointless, just like you.

Show me a game thats like starfield running on PS5 and PC, oh wait that would be impossible because there isn't one.

Dress it up however you like, in its current form, in any updated form, in any updated Xbox version, will always look better than on PS5.

It must really hurt that you are trying so hard.

Most cows spent 10 hours finishing Spiderman before coming back to this forum, but you chose to stay on here instead of playing the only game to come out on PS5. That says something desperate about you.

But please keep trying its entertaining everyone.

You can't because Bethesda have never heard of the word "optimization"

Failed attempts at humor to hide your desperation.

nice one.

Humor? Are you new to gaming, or just pretending that Bethesda understands code?