Star Wars The Old Republic - EPIC!

Just came out of the massive beta test weekend and I have to say I was blown away. Now I really don't like MMO's. Never bothered with them, never tried WoW but I did try Guild Wars and it was OK. With SWTOR I couldn't pull myself away, stopped me from playing Skyrim over the weekend. Just so much content, so many things to do, so many variations. The sense of achievement when you get your space craft (although the space battles are just average).

My thoughts on this MMO has completely changed, I have now pre-ordered it. The 20th of December can't come soon enough! Anyone else gave the beta a go and loved it? Or maybe you didn't like it?

Btw, I got no crashes/freezes, no lag etc. Fantastic for a beta. I tried Sith Marauder, but I'm looking forward to trying the other classes. :)

Hmm, Since I can get Kotor 3, this makes me want to go out and get a nice gaming PC just for this one. :D

But.. I'll likely wait, ponder, procrastinate etc. :P

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

lundy86_4

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

Nightflash28

Hmm, Since I can get Kotor 3, this makes me want to go out and get a nice gaming PC just for this one. :D

But.. I'll likely wait, ponder, procrastinate etc. :P

SecretPolice

Would love to have a Kotor 3, but this is good enough. There are story arcs that continue from Kotor 1 for example. The good thing is, you really don't need a gaming PC for this. It's not a graphic intensive game, so a decent PC/laptop will do. The artstyle is more towards the clone wars animated series.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

Nightflash28

How far did you get? Cos the intial starting area (Korriban for me) is pretty basic and run of the mill. But once you leave that place the whole thing really explodes, even more when you get your starship. I think the quests are fun and challenging, especially the heroic ones! Voice acting on everything too :) Although the game world is very daunting, it's huge!

I had the whole thing downloaded in less than an hour. :-| Nightflash28

That's pretty awesome. Mine would have taken a whilem, because at the time the download was slow as all heck. Still, I couldn't do it, as I didn't have enough bandwidth left :(

I only had to download about 9GB of data, a few small patches afterwards only took about a further 500MB so i'm not sure if it's being highly compressed or whatever but i certainly did not have to download THAT much.JohnF111

Really? I heard it was around 25gb's on numerous forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you a total on the DL software.

Did you participate in a previous testing period?

Really? I heard it was around 25gb's on numerous forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you a total on the DL software.

Did you participate in a previous testing period?

lundy86_4

Oh and currently my install folder is 18GB i'm thinking the 25GB is maybe the final game or something or a worst case scenario for applying a hundred large patches.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Really? I heard it was around 25gb's on numerous forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you a total on the DL software.

Did you participate in a previous testing period?

JohnF111

Oh and currently my install folder is 18GB i'm thinking the 25GB is maybe the final game or something or a worst case scenario for applying a hundred large patches.

Yeah, I heard that the folder was only 18gb, even after downloading more data. That's crazy that it worked for you.

I wasn't patient enough to download it (the servers were slow) nor risk going over my bandwidth :P

[QUOTE="JohnF111"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]Really? I heard it was around 25gb's on numerous forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you a total on the DL software.

Did you participate in a previous testing period?

lundy86_4

Oh and currently my install folder is 18GB i'm thinking the 25GB is maybe the final game or something or a worst case scenario for applying a hundred large patches.

Yeah, I heard that the folder was only 18gb, even after downloading more data. That's crazy that it worked for you.

I wasn't patient enough to download it (the servers were slow) nor risk going over my bandwidth :P

I came to several conclusions from the SWTOR beta.

1. Game was actually better than I thought (my expectations were really low though)
2. We need more modern/futuristic rpgs
3. These rpgs will also need to actually take advantage of futuristic/modern setting (something SWTOR didnt do)
4. Bioware's writing is still ****
5. Bioware actually has one decent writer. He goes by the name Alexander Freed.
6. I heard that the Republic Trooper had a good story as well. So make it two (Alexander Freed and Charles Boyd)
7. I like playing as fat people

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="Nightflash28"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

ducati101

How far did you get? Cos the intial starting area (Korriban for me) is pretty basic and run of the mill. But once you leave that place the whole thing really explodes, even more when you get your starship. I think the quests are fun and challenging, especially the heroic ones! Voice acting on everything too :) Although the game world is very daunting, it's huge!

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

dreman999

I'll wait for it to release. As much as I was excited to test it, I didn't want to go over my bandwidth limit.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Got into testing. Realized the beta was a 25gb download. Laughed and walked away :P

lundy86_4

I'll wait for it to release. As much as I was excited to test it, I didn't want to go over my bandwidth limit.

Really? I heard it was around 25gb's on numerous forums. Unfortunately, it doesn't give you a total on the DL software.

Did you participate in a previous testing period?

lundy86_4

The install size wias 25gbs, you didn't have to DL near that amount.

[QUOTE="ducati101"]

[QUOTE="Nightflash28"] I had the whole thing downloaded in less than an hour. :-| Anyways, I played the beta for a short bit this weekend, didn't draw me in. I did play WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer, Rift, etc... I can understand that someone who's never spent much time on MMOs will find this an extreme lot of fun and the sense of accomplishment exhilarating. Except for the story moments in which you can make your own choices, this is a pretty standard MMO and follows the same queues as the above mentioned titles. Unfortunately, I didn't find it to be something spectacular. It's good, but I doubt I will pick it up. Nightflash28

How far did you get? Cos the intial starting area (Korriban for me) is pretty basic and run of the mill. But once you leave that place the whole thing really explodes, even more when you get your starship. I think the quests are fun and challenging, especially the heroic ones! Voice acting on everything too :) Although the game world is very daunting, it's huge!

Wait...you don't have unlimited? Is this school or are you really paying for limited service?dreman999

When the option is limited service or... Nothing. I choose limited service. Cogeco has a chokehold on my area, and thus unlimited internet is not offered :( At least at the speed I want, as I would have to seriously downgrade otherwise.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]Wait...you don't have unlimited? Is this school or are you really paying for limited service?lundy86_4

When the option is limited service or... Nothing. I choose limited service. Cogeco has a chokehold on my area, and thus unlimited internet is not offered :( At least at the speed I want, as I would have to seriously downgrade otherwise.

Had a blast with it over the weekend but i am a big MMO player (currently playing Rift and WoW). Lag free and crash free altough there was a funky issue with ATI cards that disabled AA completely so the game was pretty damn jagged, though still looked fantastic.

One thing i was blown away with though is how brilliantly they've done storytelling in an MMO, that couple with companions and i was in KOTOR heaven. During the weekend i tried, Sith Warrior (lvl 12), Jedi Consular (lvl 11) and Bounty Hunter (lvl 20) the stories were fantastic for all though my favourite would have to be Sith Warrior (who doesnt love the chance to be thoroughly evil, and get rewarded for it).

So yeah, cant wait for it to be released and i'm definitely going through withdrawal today. GIEF NAO !!

This game is KOTOR btw, I kinda feel sorry for the fans on this one since it's really well done.

I took a few screenshots of various planets, my ship and other stuff, had them on the PC forum might as well share. The game itself looks good, but it could look better and be better optimized. Sometimes my performance would be miserable, other times I'm getting 110+ frames in the sith capital.

I have to agree with ducati101 . the starting areas are very leneir but with reason...To teach the player...Once you get off the starter worlds....It gets huge. Each new world you go yo is larger then the next. I got up to Taris, the planet Darth Malic rain death on, and I found the quest fun. Sure, the questing is mostly similar to other mmos but it's still expansive and your given better motivation and story. Any one can tell you it's class build that rule concepts of any rpg and mmo.

dreman999

The questing isn't like most mmos thanks to the convo system, you can choose options that the quest giver did not assign to you. Though for me at least, the starting areas of jedi are the worst, with the non-force based classes having the best starting zones.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

I have to agree with ducati101 . the starting areas are very leneir but with reason...To teach the player...Once you get off the starter worlds....It gets huge. Each new world you go yo is larger then the next. I got up to Taris, the planet Darth Malic rain death on, and I found the quest fun. Sure, the questing is mostly similar to other mmos but it's still expansive and your given better motivation and story. Any one can tell you it's class build that rule concepts of any rpg and mmo.

GD1551

The questing isn't like most mmos thanks to the convo system, you can choose options that the quest giver did not assign to you. Though for me at least, the starting areas of jedi are the worst, with the non-force based classes having the best starting zones.

Ouch.....Not even satellite internet? It sounds like this guys are milking you good.dreman999

I'm not sure about satellite internet. But cable is the only option, and the only provider is Cogeco. It's not too bad. They just upgraded to 80gb of bandwidth. It would be nicer to have unlimited though :P

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

I have to agree with ducati101 . the starting areas are very leneir but with reason...To teach the player...Once you get off the starter worlds....It gets huge. Each new world you go yo is larger then the next. I got up to Taris, the planet Darth Malic rain death on, and I found the quest fun. Sure, the questing is mostly similar to other mmos but it's still expansive and your given better motivation and story. Any one can tell you it's class build that rule concepts of any rpg and mmo.

dreman999

The questing isn't like most mmos thanks to the convo system, you can choose options that the quest giver did not assign to you. Though for me at least, the starting areas of jedi are the worst, with the non-force based classes having the best starting zones.

I thought it was dressing at first then I realized it could change the objectives of the quest and choices have an impact on how you look and even what gear you could use. I think Dark 1 gave me red eyes and locked me out of any colour lightsaber but red/orange, not sure if purple is in the game.

I enjoyed the Imperial Agent quite a bit, infact, I posted my thoughts in the PC/Mac sub-forum, and then went to playa little more, I still maintain the character models and armour graphics are absolute ******, but the Planets them selves are very nice. But I may end up buying the game just to continue my Agent and defeat the unseen enemies of the Empire.

But wut about those other flaws you failed to mention?Aquaunitpatrol

I came to several conclusions from the SWTOR beta.

1. Game was actually better than I thought (my expectations were really low though)
2. We need more modern/futuristic rpgs
3. These rpgs will also need to actually take advantage of futuristic/modern setting (something SWTOR didnt do)
4. Bioware's writing is still ****
5. Bioware actually has one decent writer. He goes by the name Alexander Freed.
6. I heard that the Republic Trooper had a good story as well. So make it two (Alexander Freed and Charles Boyd)
7. I like playing as fat people

Maroxad

The questing isn't like most mmos thanks to the convo system, you can choose options that the quest giver did not assign to you. Though for me at least, the starting areas of jedi are the worst, with the non-force based classes having the best starting zones.

GD1551

Some of it is, Balmorra is quite poorly paced, who ever made the decisions with it should probably be kicked in the gut.. It feels very mmo'ey at the end... 'cause it puts the 'bonus' missions right after you finish your story and they give Too many quests at once, which just makes you not care about what you're doing, just becomes a standard quest grind x.x.

Everything else felt great though, did Korriban, Dromund Kaas, Balcrappa, Nar Shadaa, Tatooine, and some of Taris during this last test (lvl31 inquisitor) Balmorra almost made me reconsider buying the game, thought they were just front loading content and was pissed, though Tatooine redeemed it and contained this gem: (class related)

[spoiler] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ8dQLYzkBU [/spoiler]

Also, I think the Sith Corruption mechanic could use a slider, I enjoyed having hawt orange eyes at lvl 1, but being pink (lvl2+) sucked. I'm not sure about how it works though, if you lose some corruption if you push your light back up... O.o or if you keep it but just your alignment goes back up?

Either way, it would kinda suck to have to stick around lvl1 dark for optimal Twi'lek appearance, since you don't have a base option of red/orangeish eyes... and sadly no properly red skin...

[QUOTE="ducati101"]

[QUOTE="Nightflash28"] I had the whole thing downloaded in less than an hour. :-| Anyways, I played the beta for a short bit this weekend, didn't draw me in. I did play WoW, Guildwars, Warhammer, Rift, etc... I can understand that someone who's never spent much time on MMOs will find this an extreme lot of fun and the sense of accomplishment exhilarating. Except for the story moments in which you can make your own choices, this is a pretty standard MMO and follows the same queues as the above mentioned titles. Unfortunately, I didn't find it to be something spectacular. It's good, but I doubt I will pick it up. Nightflash28

How far did you get? Cos the intial starting area (Korriban for me) is pretty basic and run of the mill. But once you leave that place the whole thing really explodes, even more when you get your starship. I think the quests are fun and challenging, especially the heroic ones! Voice acting on everything too :) Although the game world is very daunting, it's huge!

Maybe your right. If I actually played other MMO's (apart from Guild Wars), then maybe I would not have been so impressed. Probably was saving myself for this one :P I got to level 20 in the game, wide skill levels to choose from. Plus crafting and modifying my lightsaber gave me childhood nostalgia :)

Maybe your right. If I actually played other MMO's (apart from Guild Wars), then maybe I would not have been so impressed. Probably was saving myself for this one :P I got to level 20 in the game, wide skill levels to choose from. Plus crafting and modifying my lightsaber gave me childhood nostalgia :)

ducati101

Had a blast with it over the weekend but i am a big MMO player (currently playing Rift and WoW). Lag free and crash free altough there was a funky issue with ATI cards that disabled AA completely so the game was pretty damn jagged, though still looked fantastic.

One thing i was blown away with though is how brilliantly they've done storytelling in an MMO, that couple with companions and i was in KOTOR heaven. During the weekend i tried, Sith Warrior (lvl 12), Jedi Consular (lvl 11) and Bounty Hunter (lvl 20) the stories were fantastic for all though my favourite would have to be Sith Warrior (who doesnt love the chance to be thoroughly evil, and get rewarded for it).

So yeah, cant wait for it to be released and i'm definitely going through withdrawal today. GIEF NAO !!

Snugenz

I only used a Sith Marauder (lvl 20), love being full of myself ingame :) The Kotor 1 story links are interesting. It's cool that you can send companions to do missions like find power crystals etc. Would hate if I had to farm for those. Apart from the major things, i like the little touches too. Like when there is a loot drop, you can tell from the colour if it's worth picking up just by looking.

Same here man, going through withdrawal today :( Maybe they will do another beta test next weekend?

Some of it is, Balmorra is quite poorly paced, who ever made the decisions with it should probably be kicked in the gut.. It feels very mmo'ey at the end... 'cause it puts the 'bonus' missions right after you finish your story and they give Too many quests at once, which just makes you not care about what you're doing, just becomes a standard quest grind x.x.

Everything else felt great though, did Korriban, Dromund Kaas, Balcrappa, Nar Shadaa, Tatooine, and some of Taris during this last test (lvl31 inquisitor) Balmorra almost made me reconsider buying the game, thought they were just front loading content and was pissed, though Tatooine redeemed it and contained this gem: (class related)

Also, I think the Sith Corruption mechanic could use a slider, I enjoyed having hawt orange eyes at lvl 1, but being pink (lvl2+) sucked. I'm not sure about how it works though, if you lose some corruption if you push your light back up... O.o or if you keep it but just your alignment goes back up?

Either way, it would kinda suck to have to stick around lvl1 dark for optimal Twi'lek appearance, since you don't have a base option of red/orangeish eyes... and sadly no properly red skin...

Inconsistancy

Yeah I think they should allow you to choose what cosmetics you want from dark/light (not actually sure what light gives), I was actually thinking of going a light side sith for lulz. Good to hear that only one zone is kinda lame, for the most part every MMO has "that zone" that most people hate.

[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Had a blast with it over the weekend but i am a big MMO player (currently playing Rift and WoW). Lag free and crash free altough there was a funky issue with ATI cards that disabled AA completely so the game was pretty damn jagged, though still looked fantastic.

One thing i was blown away with though is how brilliantly they've done storytelling in an MMO, that couple with companions and i was in KOTOR heaven. During the weekend i tried, Sith Warrior (lvl 12), Jedi Consular (lvl 11) and Bounty Hunter (lvl 20) the stories were fantastic for all though my favourite would have to be Sith Warrior (who doesnt love the chance to be thoroughly evil, and get rewarded for it).

So yeah, cant wait for it to be released and i'm definitely going through withdrawal today. GIEF NAO !!

ducati101

I only used a Sith Marauder (lvl 20), love being full of myself ingame :) The Kotor 1 story links are interesting. It's cool that you can send companions to do missions like find power crystals etc. Would hate if I had to farm for those. Apart from the major things, i like the little touches too. Like when there is a loot drop, you can tell from the colour if it's worth picking up just by looking.

Same here man, going through withdrawal today :( Maybe they will do another beta test next weekend?

I actually like the feature alot. That way you can up your professions while instancing or doing other things.

Anyone know if you will be able to carry on your beta character in the full game? ducati101

You can't, it will be deleted.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

The questing isn't like most mmos thanks to the convo system, you can choose options that the quest giver did not assign to you. Though for me at least, the starting areas of jedi are the worst, with the non-force based classes having the best starting zones.

GD1551

I thought it was dressing at first then I realized it could change the objectives of the quest and choices have an impact on how you look and even what gear you could use. I think Dark 1 gave me red eyes and locked me out of any colour lightsaber but red/orange, not sure if purple is in the game.

Sorry if this is all the game gots. Patch 4.3 jst hit and it pretty mch trumps this game. Allthishate

[QUOTE="ducati101"]Anyone know if you will be able to carry on your beta character in the full game? GD1551

You can't, it will be deleted.

Damn thats a shame. No worries though :)

Anyone know if you will be able to carry on your beta character in the full game? ducati101

WoW in space with voice acting doesn't really strike me as epic. I played it a little bit, realized that that was all it was and quit. But more power to you if you do enjoy it.

I've been playing it since August. Overall I like it a lot. Not sure if it's worth paying whatever the monthly fee will be, but we'll see.

So how does this game compared to WoW?, well it will come down to endgame. Whichever game can provide the better endgame will be superior. I feel SW:TOR is lacking in the PvP department. I cannot comment on the quality of the endgame encounters in SW:TOR, but it has a steep hill to climb against WoW. With 4.3 releasing today along with the new raid, it will be interesting to see how SW:TOR stacks up against it.

So how does this game compared to WoW?, well it will come down to endgame. Whichever game can provide the better endgame will be superior. I feel SW:TOR is lacking in the PvP department. I cannot comment on the quality of the endgame encounters in SW:TOR, but it has a steep hill to climb against WoW. With 4.3 releasing today along with the new raid, it will be interesting to see how SW:TOR stacks up against it.

Led_poison

I actually enjoyed the PvP a good bit, only played the Inquisitor (Assassin) in PvP, and I was surprised as to how well it played at mid/low level (~25), nothing felt too imba and there were enough mechanics early on to have fun.

And none of the bg's sucked.. like WoW having SotA, IoC, AV and I don't much care for EotS or Gilneas(for some reason)either.. so basically only AB, WSG,and TP. Also ToR has symmetrical maps, unlike WoW, much better in that regard... hate asymmetrical PvP.

WoW in space with voice acting doesn't really strike me as epic. I played it a little bit, realized that that was all it was and quit. But more power to you if you do enjoy it.

Kiro0

Could you clarify on what you mean by WoW in space? Because I swear I've seen this statement a million times back in the day. Except it was people accusing WoW of being like EQ and not being all that great.