Spiderman, Yakuza 7, Maneater, Dirt 5 PS5 upgrade wont support cross save.

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#1 sakaiXx
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How is this happening? Apparently when you upgrade some eligible games to the next gen PS5 versions, saves and even trophy wont transfer.

Welp Sony and 3rd party, what are you doing. On xbox the saves will be cross compatible when you upgrade to the Xbox Series X versions. The reason given was that on Xbox the games is running on the same application but its not the same case as the PS5. I mean sure, the PS5 ver might run upgraded games differently but its not like those games cannot read the PS4 save file.

Source: https://gamingbolt.com/maneater-wont-support-ps4-to-ps5-save-transfers/amp?__twitter_impression=true

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Well... That's dumb.

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#3 hardwenzen
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Been saying it for a while, Sony engineers are clueless. It ain't random that their main focus for their next generation console was a storage device 😭 Its also not random that it took them 15 years to allow us to change the psn gamertag.

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Can't even do cross saves lol

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I read that sometime ago. It sucks.

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With PS+ and cloud saves? Sony is becoming the joke of the gen 9...

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#7 ellos
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Sony is slowly becoming worse than nintendo at this shit.

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I honestly am not affected by this, however, it is something Sony should fix. There should be a way to convert a PS4 save to PS5 or to read it from within the game.

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Hardcore cows will defend this...

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#10  Edited By sakaiXx
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@ellos said:

Sony is slowly becoming worse than nintendo at this shit.

It's more like Sony is slowly becoming Nintendo. In case anyone forgets, especially Nintendo fans, you can't transfer your Zelda save from Wii U to Switch either. No Crossbuy with Wii U version as well.

This also includes Mario Kart 8 Deluxe and whatever else Nintendo lazy ports from its previous gen.

Blerghh what am I saying, its Nintendo. Free pass to shit everyone, especially its fan.

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#11 Pedro
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I would just like to emphasize that cloud saves are free on the Xbox and generation independent. 😎

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#12  Edited By sakaiXx
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@Pedro: ikr? Damn it Sony hope I don't hear news of PS5 won't support PS4 BC cloud save. My 50 hour Witcher 3 progress that I probably will never return to will be wasted.

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@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: ikr? Damn it Sony hope I don't hear news of PS5 won't support PS4 BC cloud save. My 50 hour Witcher 3 progress that I probably will never return to will be wasted.

I am not even sure why. Its an odd issue and hopefully its resolved by the time the system launch or shortly after.

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@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: ikr? Damn it Sony hope I don't hear news of PS5 won't support PS4 BC cloud save. My 50 hour Witcher 3 progress that I probably will never return to will be wasted.

I am not even sure why. Its an odd issue and hopefully its resolved by the time the system launch or shortly after.

Hopefully. Well took Sony's "engineers" to end of the PS4's life cycle to engineer a way for its users to change their username, so don't hold your breathe lol.

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Welp. Guess I'll just keep my PS4 intact and stay with PC/Nintendo Switch if Sony gonna be this lazy moving to next-gen.

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@davillain- said:

Welp. Guess I'll just keep my PS4 intact and stay with PC/Nintendo Switch if Sony gonna be this lazy moving to next-gen.

C'mon now, you're buying a PS5, nothing Sony could do would change your mind.

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@i_p_daily said:
@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: ikr? Damn it Sony hope I don't hear news of PS5 won't support PS4 BC cloud save. My 50 hour Witcher 3 progress that I probably will never return to will be wasted.

I am not even sure why. Its an odd issue and hopefully its resolved by the time the system launch or shortly after.

Hopefully. Well took Sony's "engineers" to end of the PS4's life cycle to engineer a way for its users to change their username, so don't hold your breathe lol.

It also took Sony almost a generation to expand cloud storage limit to 100gb for PS+ users so I won't hold my breath lol. Crazy how late the change was made cause some Sony 1st party games like Tearaway unfolded can reach massive sizes. Come on Sony be alert on these stuff.

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#18  Edited By sakaiXx
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...well if there is one good thing is if its an easy Platinum it might be worth it for Platinum chasers. Bad news though Yakuza usually is not an easy game to Platinum. Those damn Mahjong minigames suck.

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Sony is really out of touch sometimes. How could they not see how the wind is blowing with consumers?

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@xantufrog said:

Sony is really out of touch sometimes. How could they not see how the wind is blowing with consumers?

Sony be like, sorry i can't hear you...

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#22  Edited By sakaiXx
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@xantufrog said:

Sony is really out of touch sometimes. How could they not see how the wind is blowing with consumers?

Its pretty dumb as well. I am not sure how PS3/PS4&PSV can cross save, cross buy and cross platform some games, even 3rd party games uses those features but the PS5 cannot do cross save on its upgraded games.

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@sakaixx: exactly - and I have a hard time believing this would be particularly costly or complicated for them to implement - especially the trophy system, where there's really no question of the program itself lacking compatibility with, e.g., a save

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@sakaixx said:
@i_p_daily said:
@Pedro said:
@sakaixx said:

@Pedro: ikr? Damn it Sony hope I don't hear news of PS5 won't support PS4 BC cloud save. My 50 hour Witcher 3 progress that I probably will never return to will be wasted.

I am not even sure why. Its an odd issue and hopefully its resolved by the time the system launch or shortly after.

Hopefully. Well took Sony's "engineers" to end of the PS4's life cycle to engineer a way for its users to change their username, so don't hold your breathe lol.

It also took Sony almost a generation to expand cloud storage limit to 100gb for PS+ users so I won't hold my breath lol. Crazy how late the change was made cause some Sony 1st party games like Tearaway unfolded can reach massive sizes. Come on Sony be alert on these stuff.

History has shown the more money you give these companies the less consumer friendly they get :(

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@i_p_daily said:
@davillain- said:

Welp. Guess I'll just keep my PS4 intact and stay with PC/Nintendo Switch if Sony gonna be this lazy moving to next-gen.

C'mon now, you're buying a PS5, nothing Sony could do would change your mind.

I had no idea Sony could be this lazy and not taking advantage of cross-save files and not supporting free upgrade too. Next-gen PS5 doesn't scream excitement for me that is. Will I get a PS5 down the road, I know I will but I'm in no rush lol.

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@xantufrog: Sony actually very lenient on Trophy stacking. You could have multiple Platinum of the same game that even if that game is on one system even if its crossbuy. There is this infamous game called Sound Scapes that lets you gets 6 Platinum using 1 account and, if you transfer save files from PS3 to PS4 or PSV, you will automatically unlock the Trophy of that version.

If I recall Salt & Sanctuary trophy was separate as well even though its a crossbuy game. FFX trophy is shared between PS3 and Vita but its not a crossbuy game.

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Wow Sony, how do you just keep getting worse and worse?

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@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:
@davillain- said:

Welp. Guess I'll just keep my PS4 intact and stay with PC/Nintendo Switch if Sony gonna be this lazy moving to next-gen.

C'mon now, you're buying a PS5, nothing Sony could do would change your mind.

I had no idea Sony could be this lazy and not taking advantage of cross-save files and not supporting free upgrade too. Next-gen PS5 doesn't scream excitement for me that is. Will I get a PS5 down the road, I know I will but I'm in no rush lol.

See i told ya lol.

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It's a big deal because?

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#30 sheep99
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@ocinom: its not just fanboys trying to make it anti consumer crap. They gave Sony crap for ssd like i dose not matter now they are praising the ssd on Xbox for fast loading times on older games. Will suck for some players i guess

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It was a smart move of Microsoft to brand their upgrade strategy, with "Smart Delivery" to even further draw contrast between theirs and PlayStation.

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@ocinom said:

It's a big deal because?

Imagine playing a game for say 30hrs, unlocking a load of stuff and all of a sudden your save file disappears and you have to start the game all over again, now that would suck right?

Well when you move your game from the PS4 to the PS5 your save file basically disappears :(

Welcome to the PS5's world.

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@ocinom said:

It's a big deal because?

Witcher 3 is getting free next gen upgrades and I have a 50 hours file, stuck at very boring Skellige Islands and boatloads of cash that I grinded, that now idk if its possible to return to that point if I upgrade the game on PS5.

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#34 Bluestars
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sony’s generations,hows that working out?

meanwhile on xbox its hype after hype as sony hide the ps5 like a ginger step child

HaH

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@sakaixx: Say if you rent a game through PS NOW that you already own but Sony make you pay for again, can you access your saves? or does Sony make you start again on that too???

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@i_p_daily: can you rephrase the question?

Anyhow if you play RE7 on PSNow and you bought the game aswell on PS4, you can transfer save between PS4 and PSNow. There is a catch you do need PS+ for cloud save transfer.

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So your'e encouraged to buy the PS4 version of games with the promise of PS5 upgrade being available after launch. But then later they tell you it will cost you for the upgrade and any saves won't carry over.

Haha Sony are a bunch of douche bags.

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@hitmanactual: yeah Sony needs to communicate regarding the upgrade paths. Its so anti consumer right now with many devs stating save will not be compatible even though the xbox versions able to run saves nicely.

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@sakaixx said:

@i_p_daily: can you rephrase the question?

Never mind i did some research so all good.

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@hitmanactual said:

So your'e encouraged to buy the PS4 version of games with the promise of PS5 upgrade being available after launch. But then later they tell you it will cost you for the upgrade and any saves won't carry over.

Haha Sony are a bunch of douche bags.

so one game = cost for all upgrades. hzd2 and sackboy are free updated games. spiderman is the only one you need to pay for that and it is 20 bucks. ow no sony are so bad they are charging for one game.

omg one game = we have to pay for every update.

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its because ps4 and ps5 games are going to be using 2 different compression software were xbox uses the same for both versions.

ps5 games krakken.

ps4 games zlib.

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@sakaixx said:

@hitmanactual: yeah Sony needs to communicate regarding the upgrade paths. Its so anti consumer right now with many devs stating save will not be compatible even though the xbox versions able to run saves nicely.

i think it do to the fact ps4 games are compressed with zlib while ps5 uses krekken.

I don't think there both compatible with each other.

so ps4 games saves will be in zlib format while the ps5 games are in kraken format.

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@i_p_daily said:
@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:
@davillain- said:

Welp. Guess I'll just keep my PS4 intact and stay with PC/Nintendo Switch if Sony gonna be this lazy moving to next-gen.

C'mon now, you're buying a PS5, nothing Sony could do would change your mind.

I had no idea Sony could be this lazy and not taking advantage of cross-save files and not supporting free upgrade too. Next-gen PS5 doesn't scream excitement for me that is. Will I get a PS5 down the road, I know I will but I'm in no rush lol.

See i told ya lol.

so hzd2 and sackboy are free updates but don't count i guess. funny one game that is not free = all of sony games will not be free.

so tell guys other than spiderman what other game do we need to pay the upgrade for?

tell me why you think all of sony games will have to pay the updates for?

you know why cross save does not work? because ps4 games use zlib compression

ps5 games use krakken. you can't load a game that is in another format.

but you guys don't think. you guys don't look for the reasons why and just hate.

xbox is using the same compression for both gens.

I rather have the 5.5 through put on the ps5 by using kraken than to have my ps4 game save transfer over.

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@gifford38: Was this directed to me or I_P_Daily?

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Unholy cowzerz. Can it get any worse for cows? Yeah, probably. lol

A break these dayz can not even be bought. :P

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I would love to know what the technical limitations are for doing this.

My guess is that there are none and they just want you to play the game over again for whatever reason.

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@davillain- said:

@gifford38: Was this directed to me or I_P_Daily?

both you said (sony not taking advantage of cross-save files and not supporting free upgrade too)

so one game = not supporting free upgrade to? even though sackboy and one huge game horizon zero dawn 2 has the free upgrade.

im just saying one game that is spiderman that if you buy miles for 50 you spend another 20 bucks = 70.

one game and everyone is saying every sony game will not support free updates.

but i just proved you guys wrong. so far 3 games have been announced to have updated versions and only one of them is 20 bucks.

and then told you guys why ps4 saves will not be supported on the ps5.

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That's fine with me

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@Heil68 said:

That's fine with me

Of course it's fine with you, the wife, Phony, says so....

lol :P

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Say it aint so SP?!

@SecretPolice said:
@Heil68 said:

That's fine with me

Of course it's fine with you, the wife, Phony, says so....

lol :P