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#1  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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Sony ain't playing around!

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omfg Jesus Christ man.

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#3  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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The XBox version has the same model but with Craig texturing as a stand-in.

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The Xbox version will get Aunt May as an exclusive character.

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It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

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#6  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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They gave up Spider-Man in their Spider-Man 2 DLC for this? Sounds like a pretty crummy deal, if you ask me. But I guess you save money where you can.

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Pretty shitty to be honest. Spiderman being exclusive is one thing, they paid for the game. But keeping a character off other platforms from a multiplayer game, damn.

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#8  Edited By BassMan
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@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

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#9  Edited By deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

Doesn't matter hes the most popular super hero in the world currently if hes not on xbox or pc something has to be done to make it even.

Spiderman was swinging around on xbox 360 in activision games so what the hell happened sony owned him back then too.

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@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

I'm not sure it's quite that simple.

Seems there might be tensions between Sony and Disney over the game rights. It would explain why the DLC doesn't feature the real Spider-Man.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/spider-man_movie_dispute_raises_video_game_concerns

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nice.

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@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

sony own the movie rights but i'm not sure about video game rights. not saying it's not true but would need a source.

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@BassMan said:

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

No they don't, it's just the movies. And that's only if there's an active project in development. They would lose the rights otherwise. This is a good ol' separate licensing moneyhat.

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#16  Edited By sakaiXx
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@BassMan said:

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

No they don't, it's just the movies. And that's only if there's an active project in development. They would lose the rights otherwise. This is a good ol' separate licensing moneyhat.

Spidey appeared in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 exclusive on Switch. I guess anything is fine as long its not on xbox.

*oh voiced by the same dude in PS4 spidey too. Miles too.

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Just Sony being for the gamers as usual.

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Just Sony being for the gamers as usual.

No this is just xbox and PC not opening there wallet an securing video game characters

Money talks and if ur not talking ur screwing your platform with lack of extras.

I blame valve and microsoft for this not putting up money and securing stuff like this. Now im for sure buying only on ps4 because of this.

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#19  Edited By Howmakewood
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Hope the platform-exclusive content bullshit doesn't go back to x360/ps3 levels

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#20  Edited By BassMan
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@BassMan said:

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

No they don't, it's just the movies. And that's only if there's an active project in development. They would lose the rights otherwise. This is a good ol' separate licensing moneyhat.

Ahhh... that is good then. So, they are probably making him exclusive to the PS version of Avengers at the request of Sony and to keep good relations between Sony and Marvel/Disney in hopes of future movie collaborations. Sony probably threw some money their way too. Either way, it sucks for fans.

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@phbz said:

Just Sony being for the gamers as usual.

They certainly are for their gamers. I'm not sure why they should care about people playing on other platforms. They're not the ones trying to turn their brand into a streaming service.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@phbz said:

Just Sony being for the gamers as usual.

They certainly are for their gamers. I'm not sure why they should care about people playing on other platforms. They're not the ones trying to turn their brand into a streaming service.

Dude just get the game on ps4-ps5 eco system im tired of not getting extras on the gimped platforms. Theres just no excuse for losing this character in the game.

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#23  Edited By st_monica
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I wonder if Spidey will be PS5 exclusive when Capcom makes Marvel vs. Capcom 4 in the future.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: You don't see why one of the Avengers characters should be available in the Avangers game? And then your deflection is "something something streaming" you poor dumb cow? I'm surprised you didn't post a Craig meme. Disappointed even.

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#25  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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@phbz said:

Just Sony being for the gamers as usual.

Microsoft just had a show where they walked away with 22 timed/full exclusives. People better get used to these sour lemons for the gen.

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@locus-solus said:
@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

sony own the movie rights but i'm not sure about video game rights. not saying it's not true but would need a source.

spiderman rights period. not spiderman movie rights. they have right to the character spiderman

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@sancho_panzer said:
@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

I'm not sure it's quite that simple.

Seems there might be tensions between Sony and Disney over the game rights. It would explain why the DLC doesn't feature the real Spider-Man.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/spider-man_movie_dispute_raises_video_game_concerns

I'm sure Disney wanted to buy the movie right back, they spent 70 billion dollars buying fox to get star wars original trilogy, x-men, fantastic four, Simpsons, family guy other ip etc. wasn't worth it. now with covid their parks are closed or limited capacity, might be forced to sell their hong kong/shanghia parks do to china, cruise line are down and they just built new ships, aren't releasing new movies in the u.s.a or china. they would had had rainy day money if they didn't buy fox Disney had 20 billion in the bank before hand but thanks to that accusation and borrowing billions during covid they're close to 70 billion in debt.

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@phbz said:

Just Sony being for the gamers as usual.

there gamers. sony's players. you don't see xbox gamepass games on the ps console but yet xbox for the players right?

if xbox was so consumer there gamepass would be on ps console.

there games that are xbox made are not on the switch either only time exclusives from third party.

it's ok for xbox to have time exclusives though right?

sony owns the rights to spiderman so there using it to have the edge over xbox.

competition is what moves this industry forward without that they can give us e.t. Atari all over again.

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That’s pretty lame. While I want to say that, “it is what it is” this kind of stuff feels a bit more annoying because it just throws in another wrench in trying to have more multi platform games to feature crossplay with all the platforms.

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@gifford38 said:
@locus-solus said:
@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

sony own the movie rights but i'm not sure about video game rights. not saying it's not true but would need a source.

spiderman rights period. not spiderman movie rights. they have right to the character spiderman

this is not true sony doesn't own the comic and i'm pretty sure they don't own the merchandise or video game rights.

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@gifford38: We're not talking about a freaking game, we're talking about a core character being removed from the game.

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#32  Edited By deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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I mean, lems should be used to this kind of thing. Getting screwed, I mean. From Phil telling you that Craig is your new mascot to this, you guys are always getting shafted, lol.

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@locus-solus said:
@sancho_panzer said:
@BassMan said:
@Nonstop-Madness said:

It's kinda crazy how PlayStation seems to have so much sway / power over Spiderman in video games.

Do we even know what kind of deal PlayStation made with Disney / Marvel?

Sony owns the rights to Spider-Man for all movies and games. So, he will never appear in a movie or game without Sony's involvement/approval.

I'm not sure it's quite that simple.

Seems there might be tensions between Sony and Disney over the game rights. It would explain why the DLC doesn't feature the real Spider-Man.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/spider-man_movie_dispute_raises_video_game_concerns

I'm sure Disney wanted to buy the movie right back, they spent 70 billion dollars buying fox to get star wars original trilogy, x-men, fantastic four, Simpsons, family guy other ip etc. wasn't worth it. now with covid their parks are closed or limited capacity, might be forced to sell their hong kong/shanghia parks do to china, cruise line are down and they just built new ships, aren't releasing new movies in the u.s.a or china. they would had had rainy day money if they didn't buy fox Disney had 20 billion in the bank before hand but thanks to that accusation and borrowing billions during covid they're close to 70 billion in debt.

Oh ok. Looks like I have a lot of reading to do, lol. Thx for the leg-up on that.

So is it purely for artistic reasons, IYO, that Spider-Man isn't in the new Spider-Man game?

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spiderman rights period. not spiderman movie rights. they have right to the character spiderman

Ummm, no.

Even while having the movie rights, they can't make money off the merch of the films. That goes to Disney.

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That's a bummer.

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Classic big corp **** waving.

Sony is really living their best life, aren't they?

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@gifford38: We're not talking about a freaking game, we're talking about a core character being removed from the game.

yes i know its just like master chief a xbox owned character you will not find him on a sony machine.

thats like putting kratos in a third party game. you think the same game will have that character on the xbox version?

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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@gifford38 said:

spiderman rights period. not spiderman movie rights. they have right to the character spiderman

Ummm, no.

Even while having the movie rights, they can't make money off the merch of the films. That goes to Disney.

i mean appearance of spiderman in a game or a movie. mcu can't just stick spiderman in a tv show or movies or game without the consent of sony.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: Uh.... Sony’s actually the one that has a streaming service, unlike Xbox so far.... so, no.

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@gifford38: Are you on acid? If Master Chief was part of the Avangers of course I would expect him to feature on the Avangers video game. Same for Kratos. It's not like Shovel Knight, who had Kratos as a character on PS, it makes sense because he's not part of that universe. It's a cool extra.

But in case you've just landed in this planet, no, Spiderman is not comparable to Kratos on an Avangers game.

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Last year: "dis game sux lololo hoo want 2 pleh dis gam"

Playstation fans today: "oMg piderman?!?! Ownag!!"

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@ProtossRushX: You are so over dramatic! OMG it’s the end of the world Zzzzzz

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#43 regnaston
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@xantufrog: lol that is funny Craig>Spider-Man

It does not surprise me that Spiderman is a PS only thing as Sony owns the rights and I doubt they would allow the character to be on the XBOX

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Kamala Khan and Black Widow will play the same. No joke, check below at 5.30

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Isn't this the game that looks like complete trash?

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I honestly don't know why this is surprising to everyone. Sony owns the Spider-Man rights, this is obvious to be expected.

But sadly for this Spidey DLC for Avengers game PS4, it won't be Insomniac's version Spider-Man PS4. Marvel Games said they want to make sure all the universes are separate, but it would be cool if it was in the same universe in Spider-Man PS4. And I'm not surprised at this. Marvel and Sony are companies. They want money and this is a huge deal in the making.

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@sancho_panzer said:

I'm not sure it's quite that simple.

Seems there might be tensions between Sony and Disney over the game rights. It would explain why the DLC doesn't feature the real Spider-Man.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/spider-man_movie_dispute_raises_video_game_concerns

That is not the problem at all sony own the rightst to spiderman,they make a deal with marvel some years back to incorporate spiderman into the MCU,this is all about spiderman been inside marvel universe which disney now controls but spiderman still is own by sony.

Disney just want a bigger cut that is all,as you can see from this game which spiderman will appear the deal still on,is in the best interest of both companies,but at the end sony still can walk away with spiderman and have it alone like the other movies.

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@tormentos said:
@sancho_panzer said:

I'm not sure it's quite that simple.

Seems there might be tensions between Sony and Disney over the game rights. It would explain why the DLC doesn't feature the real Spider-Man.

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/08/spider-man_movie_dispute_raises_video_game_concerns

That is not the problem at all sony own the rightst to spiderman,they make a deal with marvel some years back to incorporate spiderman into the MCU,this is all about spiderman been inside marvel universe which disney now controls but spiderman still is own by sony.

Disney just want a bigger cut that is all,as you can see from this game which spiderman will appear the deal still on,is in the best interest of both companies,but at the end sony still can walk away with spiderman and have it alone like the other movies.

Yup, it looks like I was a way off. Been reading up on the history of the Spider-Man deals for the last 20 minutes and I'm still not much wiser. What a mess. Any idea if the movies need to reach a certain budget or achieve a revenue threshold if Sony's to avoid forfeiting the rights, or can they churn out any old shite? Can't find any information on the specifics.

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@fedor said:

Isn't this the game that looks like complete trash?

I don't think this game is really gonna be that great. I don't see why people are falling apart over this. The Resetera thread is full of tears about it like it was a full exclusive.

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It's not impossible for Marvel to eventually get the rights back. They could just completely devalue the character in all media they have power over, trashing his story left and right, until it's not worth it for Sony to continue with those rights.