Sony's PS3 Disappointment Timeline Continued

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#301 Posted by SyluxElite (8950 posts) -
Bump. This is TOTY (Thread of the Year)
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#302 Posted by ScalIywag (946 posts) -

Bump. This is TOTY (Thread of the Year)SyluxElite
I'd vote for it if it was nominated!!!!

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#303 Posted by ish_gibbor (1717 posts) -

Funny and true thread. But the only real reason the PS3 sinking is the 'Moo-Ray' which adds $200 to the system and adds zero to video games. :(Carmilla31

haha moo-ray funny stuff. I notice sony is really getting their butts kicked in SW lately

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#304 Posted by CowboySpike381 (78 posts) -
The thing about it though is that the PS3 is going to sell a lot more in the future, please no bashing, I'm trying to think about this logically:

If there are 100 million or so console gamers, then in another couple of years most of those 100 million people will own a next-gen console, probably PS3 or Xbox360 (the Wii will sell well, but that was designed for more non-console gamers such as a non-videogamer, or as a second system.)  Now with the 360 only at 9 million or so and the PS3 at close th 1 million, that leaves about 90 million people to buy a console. So why hasn't the 360 and the PS3 sold more already, because people are waiting another year or so until the PS2 and XBOX are dead, and by then many new games will be out for both consoles.  However, the PS3 probably will sell more because of games like FFXIII and MGS4 (whatever people say it is NOT coming to the 360, and that is not a fanboy quote, it is just stupid to think it will) The 360 does have some great killer Apps coming out such as Halo 3, but the games like FF and MGS are loved by the whole world, Halo is mostly American.  Also, there has been talk about a Guitar Hero 3 for PS3, and if that is true, expect sales to go up skyhigh (I know people who are buying a PS2 nowadays just for GH)

Finally, another thing you are not taking into accont is that an average console gamer will not read up on any of this such as rumors that this is coming to the 360 or that the PS3 lost this exclusive, all they know is that SONY is a name brand that they trusted last gen and that came through for them, and that the games they really want such as MGS4 and FF ARE coming to the PS3, cause while we can pray it comes to the 360, that's all we have: HOPE while the PS3 DEFINATELY already has it coming

So yes, it might just be blind fanboy "follow Sony the God", but you can expect the PS3 sales to pick up A LOT over the next year
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#305 Posted by RickJame-s (413 posts) -

Can I just add this now to the timeline...And if it doesn't pan out, I'll take it off!!

Source tells CVG that PS3 won't launch in Europe until September 2007 while Sony sticks to March release
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High placed sources within the industry have already been tipping April as a more realistic launch window the for console. But a source has told CVG that a PS3 delay as far back as September 2007 is now far more likely, pointing the finger of delay at - yes you guessed it - "component shortages". And let's face it, you don't launch a console in summer.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=151602?cid=otc-rss&attr=cvg-general-rss&skip=yes

http://forum.pcvsconsole.com/viewthread.php?tid=21038


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#306 Posted by volatile-object (584 posts) -
360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online.
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#308 Posted by Mystikef (5125 posts) -

360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online. volatile-object

It seems that you should be disappinted that 8 of the top ten PS3 games are on the 360, better on the 360, and were released first on the 360...  yet you seem satisfied.  So I am sure the 3% to 5% of people that had their 360's break were disappointed.  But at least they had 40 AA and AAA games to choose from before it broke...  and they'll still have those games after it's repaired for free and back in their hands two weeks later.  The other 95% to 97% are always pleased.

I guess if the PS3 breaks it doesn't matter much...  you don't have much to play on it anyway.

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#309 Posted by S0DA_POPINSKI (1582 posts) -
360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online. volatile-object
Less then 3% at launch or something. And good online >> crap free online. Just accept the ownage and move on.
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#310 Posted by S0DA_POPINSKI (1582 posts) -
Grats TC first ever SW link in my sig. Good job!!
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#311 Posted by lucas_kelly (5783 posts) -
Every Cow in the world just got compleatly owned.
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#312 Posted by OluDara (752 posts) -
[QUOTE="volatile-object"]360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online. S0DA_POPINSKI
Less then 3% at launch or something. And good online >> crap free online. Just accept the ownage and move on.


Besides, it's not like it costs much for xbox live. $5 a month. That's less than one hour of work for minimum wage...
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#313 Posted by Kcube (25391 posts) -
This thread is Epic,Best post in GS History PERIOD.

The sad part is Sony saying that the Wii had no BC :lol:
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#314 Posted by Mystikef (5125 posts) -

[QUOTE="S0DA_POPINSKI"][QUOTE="volatile-object"]360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online. OluDara
Less then 3% at launch or something. And good online >> crap free online. Just accept the ownage and move on.


Besides, it's not like it costs much for xbox live. $5 a month. That's less than one hour of work for minimum wage...

VO's a fanboy noob...  If you can't spend $4 a month on one of your favorite hobbies...  you need to find a new hobby.  Everyone knows that Xbox Live is currently the best online gaming service this planet has ever seen.  If you are not willing to put out $4 a month for full access or be happy with the extensive free Live Silver...  you need to quit gaming and take up leaf collecting.  It's free.

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#315 Posted by jazreal (2736 posts) -
here...ill add to your chart something about the "HEAVEN SENT BLU RAY"...lol..what a joke blu ray has become.......heres some more ps3 dissappointment...http://imdb.com/news/sb/2007-01-03/
Sony Encounters New Blu-ray Glitches

The Sony Blu-ray high-definition version of Lionsgate's horror flick The Descent plays fine on Sony's new PlayStation3 game device, but those who attempt to watch it on an ordinary Sony Blu-ray player will see only a blank screen, according to reports that have emerged over the past few days on several websites devoted to high-definition video formats. A similar problem was reported with Pioneer Blu-ray players. The Descent disc features numerous "extras" produced exclusively for the Blu-ray format, including a picture-in-picture video commentary. And therein lies the problem, according to the HD websites. Lionsgate used BD-Java technology for the extras, which is not compatible with the Sony BDP-S1 and Pioneer Elite Blu-ray players. Sony says it is aware of the problem and is working to provide an update to the operating system of its players by early this year.
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#316 Posted by jazreal (2736 posts) -
360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online. volatile-object
ownage denied cow.......its called "reliability rate" and 360's falls under the accepted 3% margin.....you loose :)
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#317 Posted by Carmilla31 (3335 posts) -
Japan, week of Dec 18-25 - Nintendo DS Lite - 485,584 - Wii - 279,277 - PSP - 138,588 - PlayStation 3 - 76,882 - PlayStation 2 - 46,209 - Xbox 360 - 17,213 Wii outsells PSP, PS3, PS2 and X360 COMBINED Thats pretty insane. :o
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#318 Posted by darkmagician06 (6060 posts) -
[QUOTE="volatile-object"]360 is the system with Faulty Hardware....3 lights of death anyone? That one Disappoint surpasses all of Sony's so called Disappointment. O and 360 owners have to pay for Online. jazreal
ownage denied cow.......its called "reliability rate" and 360's falls under the accepted 3% margin.....you loose :)

exactly...he acts like all 360's had problems when they didnt...
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#319 Posted by deathtrap90 (765 posts) -
[QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Japan, week of Dec 18-25 - Nintendo DS Lite - 485,584 - Wii - 279,277 - PSP - 138,588 - PlayStation 3 - 76,882 - PlayStation 2 - 46,209 - Xbox 360 - 17,213 Wii outsells PSP, PS3, PS2 and X360 COMBINED Thats pretty insane. :o

Wrong thread ?
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#320 Posted by iamtheonlynem (206 posts) -
We all know Sony has been taking a lot of bad press from the PS3, but lets take a look back at the year that has lead us to the Nov. 17th release date.

First, we start with Sony itself. Yes, I was going to only make a timeline of the PS3 news, but how can you ignore this arrogance from late 2005?

Nov. 10th, 2005 - Sony is caught hiding a rootkit inside music CD's that place a virus on users computer. Sony's Tom Hesse defends the decision by stating that people don't know what it is, so they shouldn't care

Now that we know Sony cares about us, lets move on to the PS3...

Feb 27th, 2006 - Sony misses it's Spring launch date
May 8th, 2006 - Sony holds it's E3 conference announcing the pricing of the PS3 at $600/$500
May 8th, 2006 - New PS3 controller will have six degrees of motion, but no rumble feature. Sony's Phil Harrison states that rumble was last gen and no longer needed.
May 31st, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison denies copying the Wiimote and states that the PS3 will replace the PC
Sep 5th, 2006 - Gamers looking to get the best picture out of Sony's premium PlayStation 3 package will need to shell out extra for proper hookups.
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 is delayed in Europe until March 2007
Sept 6th, 2006 - PS3 launch shipment is cut from 2 million to 400,000 in the US (100,000 to Japan)
Sept 8th, 2006 - Sony's President admits that the company's hardware is in a current state of decline
Sept 26th, 2006 - PS3 first-party titles announced to be the same price as third party titles, at $59.99
Sept 26th, 2006 - Square Enix will not exclusively support Sony's PS3 as much as they did with the PS2.
Sept 29th, 2006 - Sony's President Ken Kutaragi states that his company does not care about the Xbox 360 and Wii competition.
October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"
October 19th, 2006 - The infamous spec sheet comparison and how Sony claims the Xbox 360 requires HD-DVD to play games
October 20th, 2006 - Announced that Sony may have to replace your PS3 controller for you after it no longer holds charge
October 24th, 2006 - Sony sinks Lik-Sang
October 26th, 2006 - Sony's Q2 profits decrease by 94%
October 28th, 2006 - Sony president Ken Kutaragi said he expects the PS3 to be capable of running games at a stunning 120fps
October 30th, 2006 - PS3 will push Sony $1.71 billion into the red
October 31st, 2006 - Japan launch of the PS3 is cut to 80,000 units
Nov 8th, 2006 - Sony ships without update. You must update your PS3 out of the box in order to use PlayStation Network
Nov 9th, 2006 - NBA Live 2007 is cancelled on the PS3
Nov 9th, 2006 - Oblivion is pushed back from launch title to Jan 2007
Nov 10th, 2006 - Sony's Phil Harrison states that he can no longer confirm a March 2007 launch for Europe
Nov 11th, 2006 - PS3 launches in Japan and rewards few
Nov 11th, 2006 - Sony unprepared for Japan launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - Sony will miss 400,000 unit target for the US. Approx 150k to 200k will be shipped for launch
Nov 14th, 2006 - PS3 has backwards compatibility problems
Nov 16th, 2006 - PS3 downscales 720p games instead of upscaling to 1080i
Nov 16th, 2006 - Sony's Jack Tretton comments on the PS3 BC problems and states that the Wii has 0 backwards compatibility
Nov 20, 2006 - NYT not impressed with PS3
Nov 20, 2006 - Game Devs Prefer 360
Nov 20, 2006 - PS3 annoys Joystiq
Nov 21, 2006 - PS3, PSP Rainbow Six held till '07
Nov 23, 2006 - Saving Sony, one console at a time
Nov 25, 2006 - Sony retracts 1080i fix statement, leaving customers in lurch.
Nov 26, 2006 - More PS3 exclusives head to 360
Nov 26, 2006 - Bloomberg: Sony missed PS3 ship targets
Nov 30, 2006 - Sony shuffles senior execs
Nov 30, 2006 - Analyst: "I cannot imagine a PlayStation 4"
Dec 4, 2006 - Sony Australia: Wii "More Fun" than PS3
Dec 8, 2006 - Court rules for Immersion; Sony to pay up
Dec 11, 2006 - Industry watchers weigh in on "record-low tie ratios" for Wii and PS3 and other results from the month of the new systems' debut.
Dec 19, 2006 - Time says PS3 was a bust
Dec 20, 2006 - PC World Calls PS3 a top tech mistake of 2006
Dec 20, 2006 - Forced bundles and high retail price put consumers off, claims tracking firm.
Dec 21, 2006 - Virtua Fighter 5 dukes it out on Xbox 360
Dec 21, 2006 - Sony filed a patent for wiimote style hand-held controler
Dec 27, 2006 - PS3 Greymarket Watch: Scalpers Returning PS3s Back To Stores.
Dec 27, 2006 - Gamers who queued for days to buy Sony's PS3 are frantically trying to trade them for the much cheaper Wii.
Dec 28, 2006 - Sony's PS3: High-Scorer No More


While it's not all of Sony's fault, they have done little to apologize for their delays and arrogant statements. It's a bad trend that they've started, and the more they continue the more we'll be seeing article after article on Gamespot.....day after day about something else they've done to flaw the PS3's image.

I'm sure I'm going to get a lot of flaming cow responses, but hey that's expected. I can understand their crankiness b/c I know I'd hate to be in their shoes atm. Hopefully Sony will have some sort of eye-opener to the amount of distaste they've started among gaming consumers, and will get back to what they used to do best.
Natural_Mystic
One oif the best post ever!!! GOOD JOB MAN
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#322 Posted by Carmilla31 (3335 posts) -
Kingdom Hearts 3? Link? Is it as exclusive as Dragon Quest 9?
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#323 Posted by Carmilla31 (3335 posts) -
[QUOTE="deathtrap90"][QUOTE="Carmilla31"]Japan, week of Dec 18-25 - Nintendo DS Lite - 485,584 - Wii - 279,277 - PSP - 138,588 - PlayStation 3 - 76,882 - PlayStation 2 - 46,209 - Xbox 360 - 17,213 Wii outsells PSP, PS3, PS2 and X360 COMBINED Thats pretty insane. :o

Wrong thread ?

Right thread. Two pages back someone posted Japans holiday sales.
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#324 Posted by leatitiacasta (25 posts) -
I never post on the forums but I'm making an exception to say grats to the original poster. Grats, OP.
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#325 Posted by gingerdivid (7206 posts) -
Exactly why I have turned sheep, Sony dont respect me, they respect my money.
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#326 Posted by BlueBarad (2218 posts) -
Sony Responds to Reports of Lethargic PS3 Sales - Sony Exec says that "Everything that we put on store shelves sold out,"
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#327 Posted by Koolsen (8054 posts) -
Wow its amazing to see that even after all the bad press its amazing to see sony is still as arrogant as always...
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#328 Posted by Mystikef (5125 posts) -

Sony Responds to Reports of Lethargic PS3 Sales - Sony Exec says that "Everything that we put on store shelves sold out," BlueBarad

Is Sony nuts?  I mean they like to over-promise and tell the occasional fub...  but an out-right lie that any sane human being can see?

So many of us have been to stores and have seen the PS3s on the shelves.  You read a story like this and you really have to laugh at tehir arrogance?  They truly think people are stupid.  Sony's game division does not know how to keep their proverbial feet out of their loud-ass mouths.

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#329 Posted by Consoletant (1614 posts) -

The real problem with the PS3 is that all the good games are associated with the Playstation (Grand Theft Auto, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy) are owned by third party developers and has the potential to go multiplatform (see Virtual Fighter series). 

Xbox (Halo and PGR) are owned by MS

Nintendo (Mario and Zelda) are owned by Nintendo.

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#330 Posted by Sqube (123 posts) -
I don't post on these boards very often, but I had to respond to Kane04 listing all of those games for the PS3. Here's my thing: We said there's no good games. You reply by talking about games that aren't even out yet. I don't think I have to explain why that's laughable. If all you can do is point to the future when people are talking about the present, you don't even have a point. When those games comes out, then you can talk about how good they are or are not. To talk about something that isn't even released, or something that we don't know anything about beyond rumors and Photoshopped screenshots, and to use that as "proof" that your console of choice has quality game selection... that's specious, at best. At worst, it's the kind of finger-in-the-ears, screaming-loudly fanboyism that makes people hate the internet.
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#331 Posted by Chris72b9 (1375 posts) -
Very nice job with the links...that takes a hell of a long time to do all of that. As for Sony...:(, hope for a better '07.
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#332 Posted by Dreams-Visions (26578 posts) -
Yo Mystic, you need to put the ABC article on here.
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#333 Posted by s50cal (173 posts) -
dang, sony just got self pwned!!!!

PS i put this on my sig for every lemming, sheep, and hermits enjoyment.
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#334 Posted by s50cal (173 posts) -
more ppl should hear about this, im giving it a bump.
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#335 Posted by Hungry_Homer111 (22479 posts) -

Yo Mystic, you need to put the ABC article on here.Dreams-Visions

Here's the link:

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2768596&page=1

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#336 Posted by Natural_Mystic (4117 posts) -
Sony Responds to Reports of Lethargic PS3 Sales - Sony Exec says that "Everything that we put on store shelves sold out," BlueBarad
*updated  :P
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#338 Posted by BlueBarad (2218 posts) -

Sony Exec Confirms: No Force Feedback on the PS3 Driving Wheel

If it weren't Sony I would be starting to feel bad for the company.

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#339 Posted by BK-Sleeper (2686 posts) -
It sort of reminds me of the Fall of Rome. Nothing but bad news until the downfall.
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#340 Posted by s50cal (173 posts) -
As for Sony...:(, hope for a better '07.Chris72b9
or a better 08, or 09, or even ps4 :D
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#341 Posted by balance-series (348 posts) -
360's 3 Red Lights of Death Nullifies It All. Sony has Blu-Ray, HDMI, 1080P, Linux, Upgradeable HDD, Free Online. PS3 will 3 Peat.
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#342 Posted by -Xplode- (576 posts) -

October 12th, 2006 - Sony Exec calls the 360 and Wii "too expensive"

Natural_Mystic

LMFAO! lolololol!!!!! that just made my day right there.

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#343 Posted by BlueBarad (2218 posts) -
360's 3 Red Lights of Death Nullifies It All. Sony has Blu-Ray, HDMI, 1080P, Linux, Upgradeable HDD, Free Online. PS3 will 3 Peat. balance-series
:D :D
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#344 Posted by Flaming_Smoke (2132 posts) -
[QUOTE="Corvin"][QUOTE="Nova_Mongoose"]I'm hyping this thread AAAA! TOTY! TOTY!drewtwo99
It is pretty great huh?

Aww that picture is so cute!!!!

hahaha agreed
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#345 Posted by duh555 (864 posts) -
This thread is a cow's worst nightmare.You did a great job with linking the timeline, great thread!!
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#346 Posted by s50cal (173 posts) -
i wish someone could sticky this but for now il give it a good bump
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#347 Posted by KingManifest (105 posts) -
is it true you half to pay over 500$'s to fully unlock all of the new GT thats coming out?
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#348 Posted by s50cal (173 posts) -
is it true you half to pay over 500$'s to fully unlock all of the new GT thats coming out?KingManifest
what do u mean gt?
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#349 Posted by EmperorMetalman (1832 posts) -
The thing about it though is that the PS3 is going to sell a lot more in the future, please no bashing, I'm trying to think about this logically:

If there are 100 million or so console gamers, then in another couple of years most of those 100 million people will own a next-gen console, probably PS3 or Xbox360 (the Wii will sell well, but that was designed for more non-console gamers such as a non-videogamer, or as a second system.) Now with the 360 only at 9 million or so and the PS3 at close th 1 million, that leaves about 90 million people to buy a console. So why hasn't the 360 and the PS3 sold more already, because people are waiting another year or so until the PS2 and XBOX are dead, and by then many new games will be out for both consoles. However, the PS3 probably will sell more because of games like FFXIII and MGS4 (whatever people say it is NOT coming to the 360, and that is not a fanboy quote, it is just stupid to think it will) The 360 does have some great killer Apps coming out such as Halo 3, but the games like FF and MGS are loved by the whole world, Halo is mostly American. Also, there has been talk about a Guitar Hero 3 for PS3, and if that is true, expect sales to go up skyhigh (I know people who are buying a PS2 nowadays just for GH)

Finally, another thing you are not taking into accont is that an average console gamer will not read up on any of this such as rumors that this is coming to the 360 or that the PS3 lost this exclusive, all they know is that SONY is a name brand that they trusted last gen and that came through for them, and that the games they really want such as MGS4 and FF ARE coming to the PS3, cause while we can pray it comes to the 360, that's all we have: HOPE while the PS3 DEFINATELY already has it coming

So yes, it might just be blind fanboy "follow Sony the God", but you can expect the PS3 sales to pick up A LOT over the next year
CowboySpike381

And what makes you think these people will trust  a $600 price
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#350 Posted by EmperorMetalman (1832 posts) -

[QUOTE="GsSanAndreas"]2007 is gona be the upside,

-major firmware update
-less of a shortage reaching almost 2 - 6 mill mark
-Euro Launch
- Amazing games
-Better graphics and understand of making games

Kane04

you bet, and, nVidia is preparing a firmware up-date for the RSX that will increase its power by 20%, just like they did with PC graphic cards, remember?

and one more thing, "PS3 has no good games"?

* Afrika
* Angel Rings
* Blast Factor
* Boku no Natsu Yasumi 3: Summer Holidays 20th
* Calling All Cars
* Cash Guns Chaos
* Century
* Coded Arms Assault
* Devil May Cry 4
* Dreamers
* Eight Days
* Eyedentify
* Eyetoy Games(wii killer)
* Factor 5 Project #2
* Fifth Phantom Saga
* Final Fantasy Versus XIII
* Final Fantasy XIII

* Final Fantasy VII
(most probably)

* Full Auto 2: Battlelines
* Formula One Championship Edition
* flOw
* Genji: Days of the Blade
* Gradius
* Gran Turismo 5
* Gretzky NHL
* Go! Sudoku
* Go! Swizzleblock 2
* God of War 3
* Heavenly Sword
* Hot Shots Golf 5
* Jak and Daxter: The Lost Frontier
* Killzone 2

* Kingdom Hearts 3
* Shadow of the Colossus 2
* Sarugechu PS3
* Socom
* Lair
* Lemmings
* Mainichi Issyo
* Makai Wars
* Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
* MLB '07: The Show
* Mobile Suit Gundam: Crossfire
* Motor Storm
* Monster Carnival
* Monster Kingdom
* NBA 07
* Ni-Oh
* Ninja Gaiden Sigma
* Ratchet and Clank 5
* Resistance: Fall of Man (ign.com 9.1)
* Ridge Racer 7
* Singstar: Next Gen
* Shin Megami Tensei
* Team Siren Project
* Tekken 6
* The Eye of Judgment: Conquerors of 9 Fields
* The Getaway 3
* Unknown Realms
* Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
* WarDevil Enigma
* Warhawk
* Wheel of Fortune
* White Knight Story
* WipEout PS3
* World Tour Soccer PS3
* WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2008
* Zipper Interactive PS3 Project
* Zone of Enders 3

All exclusives

THE PlayStation 3 IS AN 11 POUNDS A*S KICKING MACHINE ! !


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The 360 a wii have better games