Sony's best selling exclusive fails to dent top 10 sales list.

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#1 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

Since the launch of PS1, and through to PS4, no 1st party Sony game has made it into the top 10 best seller list.

In fact, we have to go all the way down to 18th before we find Spiderman.

With Sony fans raving about how exclusives are the main reason for buying a PS4, why aren't there any exclusives selling better?

Even Halo 3 fares better for Xbox, coming in at 8th place, while COD dominates both platforms despite Xbox having the "bro shooter" console reputation.

What in your opinions are the reasons that PS owners prefer 3rd party games?

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/07/09/the-top-selling-3rd-party-console-games-of-all-time

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#2 Posted by Fedor (5265 posts) -

There's a certain no lifer furiously searching the interwebs for any bit of info that can even partially counter this.

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#3 Posted by KBFloYd (21884 posts) -

sony built their brand on 3rd party. Most people that buy playstations do it for 3rd party and 1st party to them is an afterthought.

the opposite of nintendo where people always liked their 1st party more than 3rd party.

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#4 Posted by dagubot (1366 posts) -

@boxrekt and the rest of the clown...sorry cow posse will not like this!!!

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#5 Posted by pdogg93 (1650 posts) -

@sealionact: I see you’re angry that the majority of people chose a PS4 rather than the shit box you hold so close to your heart lol.

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#6 Posted by Pedro (35389 posts) -

@fedor said:

There's a certain no lifer furiously searching the interwebs for any bit of info that can even partially counter this.

LMAO. Multi-platform for the win.
LMAO. Multi-platform for the win.

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#7 Edited by watercrack445 (1712 posts) -

The OP is a Sony hater so we already know he is biased.

His intention is just damage control

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#8 Posted by Fedor (5265 posts) -

@watercrack445: What's biased about the facts presented though?

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#9 Posted by watercrack445 (1712 posts) -

@fedor: he's cherrypicking, I'm pretty sure Xbox one sells third party games more than first party.

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#10 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

@fedor said:

@watercrack445: What's biased about the facts presented though?

He's trying to discredit Sony's exclusives due to his system's lack there of. At this point system wars probably is more fun than Xbox1's exclusives, though, so I get it

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#11 Posted by Fedor (5265 posts) -

@valgaav_219: Isn't that exactly what this forum is for? Why is everyone attacking op and not the facts in the article?

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#12 Posted by dagubot (1366 posts) -
@fedor said:

@valgaav_219: Isn't that exactly what this forum is for? Why is everyone attacking op and not the facts in the article?

Cause cows don't like facts when it's against Sony and their exclusives.

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#13 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

@fedor: Not attacking OP, just answering your question. Most gamers are casuals playing Call of Duty, GTA, Assassin's Creed, and Fortnite etc but that doesn't change the fact that exclusives sell systems. Otherwise it wouldn't matter what system you bought since they'd all have the same sh*t

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#14 Posted by adsparky (1436 posts) -

It's amazing to see Guitar Hero and Rock Band on the lists when they are basically dead right now.

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#15 Edited by Fedor (5265 posts) -

@valgaav_219: Sorry, didn't mean to say you were attacking. I was referring to a couple others in this thread, I should have been more clear.

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#16 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@pdogg93: How did you twist things into a hate post, when I asked a perfectly justified question, based on a reliable source?

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#17 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@watercrack445: No hate from me...nor IGN who posted the article. Just a question, which seems to have upset you.

Perhaps I've proven a point without even trying.

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#18 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@valgaav_219: lol....no, you give me too much credit. I simply linked an article that showed a top 10 selling list without a single exclusive, and asked why - based on actual sales figures - PS4 owners prefer 3rd party games.

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#19 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

@sealionact: Do Sales = Quality? Is GTA 5, which sits at 100 million copies sold, better than your favorite game? As stated in my previous post to @fedor most gamers are casuals. As gamers that are truly passionate about this medium that judge every aspect of each game to the best of our abilities and hold developers to a higher standard our tastes are niche

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#20 Edited by Kali-B1rd (2242 posts) -
@valgaav_219 said:

@sealionact: Do Sales = Quality? Is GTA 5, which sits at 100 million copies sold, better than your favorite game? As stated in my previous post to @fedor most gamers are casuals. As gamers that are truly passionate about this medium that judge every aspect of each game to the best of our abilities and hold developers to a higher standard our tastes are niche

Does a 10/10 Action Game in ONE genre mean its better than every other option?

"most gamers are casual" ... yea that's why they pick up third person action games.

Maybe, just maybe the third party games are just flat out better. Could be a product of the fact that Sony's exclusive library this gen has been incredibly tunnel visioned into a specific subset offering little variety to anyone.

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#21 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@valgaav_219: Do sales = quality? You tell me. One person's idea of quality is very different from another. But surely even you can agree that a game that sells more appeals to more people?

My question was a simple one...why don't Sony's exclusives appeal to more people?

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#22 Edited by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

@sealionact: It may be about genre tbh. I can't speak for everyone but everyone isn't playing and buying games for a rich story, drama, lots of cutscenes, and an open world. The open world's have flooded the market to the point that even series that used to be great just have to change everything and go open world. I'd say the average gamer wants something that takes less focus and commitment. That's why GTA's, NBA 2K's, Madden's, FIFA's, and COD's will forever rule sales charts. That's what everyone is playing. Those 3rd person, story-oriented, action games with RPG elements are still winning awards and selling millions, though, so they're still very relevant. That's all I'm saying.

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#23 Posted by Valgaav_219 (2469 posts) -

@kali-b1rd: You can't just lump every Sony game into this 1 category because they're all 3rd person view. They all play differently and have different subject matter. So they're all similar because of one characteristic? Right. How many different ways are there to view a game? It's not like there are really that many choices.

Sony: Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Infamous: Second Son, The Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank, Spiderman, Bloodborne, and God of War are all drastically different games with different play styles and different selling points. That's variety. To say they're not is like saying that:

Microsoft: Gears of War, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, Cuphead (Platformer just like Ratchet & Clank), State of Decay 2, Ashen, and Ryse are all the same when that is factually incorrect.

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#24 Posted by Subspecies (660 posts) -

@sealionact: So you saw the Spiderman best selling superhero game all time in US and just couldn't help yourself, huh?

I smell insecurity.

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#25 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@subspecies: So you saw Spiderman, best selling superhero game of all time and became moist because it sold more than Batman and Superman?

I mean, how many Superhero games have there been?

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#26 Posted by Kali-B1rd (2242 posts) -
@valgaav_219 said:

@kali-b1rd: You can't just lump every Sony game into this 1 category because they're all 3rd person view. They all play differently and have different subject matter. So they're all similar because of one characteristic? Right. How many different ways are there to view a game? It's not like there are really that many choices.

Sony: Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn, Infamous: Second Son, The Last of Us, Ratchet & Clank, Spiderman, Bloodborne, and God of War are all drastically different games with different play styles and different selling points. That's variety. To say they're not is like saying that:

Microsoft: Gears of War, Sea of Thieves, Crackdown 3, Cuphead (Platformer just like Ratchet & Clank), State of Decay 2, Ashen, and Ryse are all the same when that is factually incorrect.

Erm yes you can, quite easily.

That is pitiful variety... about the most unique there is a scummy paid-for-exclusive bloodborne.

I won't defend Microsoft though.... either. At least they got a good online racer I suppose?

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#27 Posted by Kali-B1rd (2242 posts) -
@subspecies said:

@sealionact: So you saw the Spiderman best selling superhero game all time in US and just couldn't help yourself, huh?

I smell insecurity.

Are we suppose to care about its sales?

The Arkham games were just flat out better.

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#28 Posted by ProtossRushX (5595 posts) -
@subspecies said:

@sealionact: So you saw the Spiderman best selling superhero game all time in US and just couldn't help yourself, huh?

I smell insecurity.

Damage control Response thread lol :D

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#29 Posted by hrt_rulz01 (19128 posts) -

Incoming!

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#30 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@watercrack445: Yes, more Xbox players play 3rd party games, but even Xbox has a first party exclusive in the top 10 (Halo 3).

Why doesn't Sony? Nobody seems to be able to answer that, without accusing me of "nitpicking", when all I'm doing is presenting actual sales figures....

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#31 Posted by sakaiXx (5887 posts) -

I am sorry but where does this article state about your header? All I see in the article is compilations of best selling 3rd party games on playstation/xbox/nintendo and made comparisons to the recent Spidey game.

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#32 Posted by watercrack445 (1712 posts) -

@sealionact said:

@watercrack445: Yes, more Xbox players play 3rd party games, but even Xbox has a first party exclusive in the top 10 (Halo 3).

Why doesn't Sony? Nobody seems to be able to answer that, without accusing me of "nitpicking", when all I'm doing is presenting actual sales figures....

You didn't include any Nintento, PC and other hardwares sales, which tells me your bias towards Sony.

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#33 Posted by Chutebox (44696 posts) -

I'm only seeing third party lists.

That website is annoying as hell.

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#34 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@Chutebox: That's because it's a list of best selling 3rd party games...

The article goes on to say that if 1st party games are taken into account, then Spiderman makes number 18 in the list of best selling games on PlayStation, while halo 3 makes it to #8 on Xbox 's list.

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#35 Posted by Subspecies (660 posts) -

@ProtossRushX said:
@subspecies said:

@sealionact: So you saw the Spiderman best selling superhero game all time in US and just couldn't help yourself, huh?

I smell insecurity.

Damage control Response thread lol :D

Lol, yep. Like clockwork. You got this fool pissed off. :)

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#36 Posted by Pedro (35389 posts) -

@hrt_rulz01 said:

Incoming!

I don't see that being a problem when its

Burger time. :)
Burger time. :)

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#37 Posted by Chutebox (44696 posts) -

@sealionact: Ya, Found it. Kinda means nothing without actual sales figures.

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#38 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@watercrack445: I'd be biased "against" Sony, not towards them, if your accusation was true...

As it is, Nintendo's list is in the link, and pc isn't in the list of best selling console games....because pc is not a console.

Also, it's not "my list". These are NPD figures. If you think that they are biased, then you probably need to ask yourself why do you think that.....

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#39 Edited by Pedro (35389 posts) -

@sealionact said:

@watercrack445: I'd be biased "against" Sony, not towards them, if your accusation was true...

As it is, Nintendo's list is in the link, and pc isn't in the list of best selling console games....because pc is not a console.

Also, it's not "my list". These are NPD figures. If you think that they are biased, then you probably need to ask yourself why do you think that.....

I wonder why is the list bias? LOL
I wonder why is the list bias? LOL

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#40 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@Chutebox: Hey, don't shoot the messenger if you don't like the message. Talk to the people from NPD. You know, the people who actually count sales professionally. For a living.

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#41 Edited by Sevenizz (4013 posts) -

The other day I learned a cousin I rarely see owns a ps4. I asked him what games he owns. NHL (every year, he loves hockey), CoD, Project Cars, and GTA 5. I asked him why he doesn’t own the exclusives like Spider Man, Knack, or Zero Dawn. He said he doesn’t know much about them and they don’t interest him. ‘I like what I like’ he claimed. I asked him why he bought a ps4 over an X1. He simply said the ps4 was a hundred dollars cheaper otherwise he would’ve bought it over the ps4 because he enjoyed his 360.

I think casuals need to to be heavily marketed to and priced accordingly. But they don’t buy many games or take chances in unfamiliar territory. Are they really worth it? Next year he’s buying the new Xbox so we can keep in touch. He doesn’t have much loyalty to the Sony brand.

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#42 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@sakaixx: You would need to read the article. Specifically the part that says Sony's best selling exclusive - Spiderman - comes in 18th place in the overall list of best selling ps games.

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#43 Posted by Chutebox (44696 posts) -

@sealionact: I think you're trying to make my comment aggressive when it's not... but, sw I guess

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#44 Posted by Pedro (35389 posts) -

@Sevenizz said:

The other day I learned a cousin I rarely see owns a ps4. I asked him what games he owns. NHL (every year, he loves hockey), CoD, Project Cars, and GTA 5. I asked him why he doesn’t own the exclusives like Spider Man, Knack, or Zero Dawn. He said he doesn’t know much about them and they don’t interest him. ‘I like what I like’ he claimed. I asked him why he bought a ps4 over an X1. He simply said the ps4 was a hundred dollars cheaper otherwise he would’ve bought it over the ps4 because he enjoyed his 360.

I think casuals need to to be heavily marketed to and priced accordingly. But they don’t buy many games or take chances in unfamiliar territory. Are they really worth it? Next year he’s buying the new Xbox so we can keep in tough. He doesn’t have much loyalty to the Sony brand.

These once upon a time agenda stories are always cringey to read. LMAO.

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#45 Edited by BoxRekt (1998 posts) -

Geez RESPONSE THREAD to damage control Spiderman's sale achievement?

This is pretty desperate and pitiful.

You guys can't even counter this PS4 exclusive with something that MS created. Like, why are guys you even xbox fans? To hate on all things Sony?

This sad thread won't stop Spiderman PS4 from being the highest selling super hero game ever made.

inB4Loc/

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#46 Posted by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@Chutebox: Not really, you suggested my thread meant nothing without sales figures, when I simply provided a link to an article and asked a question.

When you seem sceptical of my figures, youre forgetting they're not mine....

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#47 Edited by BoxRekt (1998 posts) -
@fedor said:

There's a certain no lifer furiously searching the interwebs for any bit of info that can even partially counter this.

You mean, as opposed to the no lifer who was furiously searching the interwebs for any bit of info that can even partially counter Spiderman PS4 being the highest selling super hero game ever made?

Yep, Spiderman PS4 still the highest selling super hero game ever made. This thread didn't change that.

Nice hypocrisy though.

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#48 Edited by sealionact (4069 posts) -

@boxrekt: Uh....you want to lock the thread? Why exactly? Something you dislike?

Saying Spiderman is the highest selling superhero game ever in the us, is about as relevant as saying FIFA is the highest selling football game. Pretty bleeding obvious to me seeing as there's only been a handful of superhero games.

In fact, as impressive as it sounds, the rest of the list includes Lego Spiderman, Lego marvel superheroes and....infamous 2. Lol.

Still, it's a great achievement. Right up there with Flight Simulator being the best selling flight simulator game....

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#49 Posted by Sevenizz (4013 posts) -

@Pedro: I think you mean anecdotal which is technically about 90% of the responses on this site.

But thanks for playing, I suppose.

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#50 Posted by Chutebox (44696 posts) -

@sealionact: I'm not.skeptical about it. I'm saying you cant.compare without actual numbers