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#1  Edited By sakaiXx
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Thing so futuristic you need to update the fans for optimizations. Just one step closer to "how to download more RAM".

Wonder if modders can custom update the PS5 fan sound to make sound like the glorious PS4 F-16 jet engine sound. next gen I tell ya, only on PS5.

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#2 Sushiglutton
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I guess the game will send data of which sections leads to heating. If the system knows in advance it can turn up the fans a bit in advance to avoid spikes, or something like that. Pretty cool.

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#3 Random_Matt
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? Fans turn up when the chip gets too hot, it is variable. Swear that just happens through a bios/driver, why you need a software update is dumb.

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#4 Pedro
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In other words its going to be quiet at launch and slowly get louder with each update. πŸ˜‚

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#5 tormentos
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@Pedro:

PROVE IT.πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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#6 sealionact
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This doesn't sound good at all.

"The reason why Ootori is already planning to go ahead with this process pre-launch isn't explained, but can be assumed. There's always the possibility that Sony has made a mistake that needs to be corrected after being discovered in practice. "

https://gamerant.com/ps5-fan-firmware-update-potential/amp/#click=https://t.co/2jpWvc2EWf

In other words, we don't know what PS5 will sound like after launch. It's already running hotter than the xsx and this news doesn't fill me with confidence.

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#7 Fedor
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So it has a fan curve... Amazing.

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#8 Pedro
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@tormentos: Triggered.😎

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@fedor said:

So it has a fan curve... Amazing.

Don't tell that to cows, they need to believe this is ground-breaking "futuristic" tech.

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#10  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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Sony sent out PS5 to non hardware people only in Japan and from the sounds of it adjusted the fan curve.

It will be another PS4 Pro, heat pipes for a SOC with a 9 TFLOP GPU?... Sony went cheap on the cooling, and only the fans will suffer pun intended.

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#11  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@fedor said:

So it has a fan curve... Amazing.

Guess which fan curve they applied to those "selected" PS5 youtubers?... This reeks of oh yeah you'll need to have the fan at 80-90% to get 2GHz on graphically demanding games.

A single fan with no vapour chamber is not enough to cool a 5700 let alone something with 2 TFLOPS more power and a CPU at the same time without turning up the RPM.

I called this and Tormentoes is on a defence rampage, I feel bad for these "grown" men... How can you be so attached to a f***ing object is beyond me.

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#12 Techhog89
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Only on SW can this be twisted into a negative.

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#13 Techhog89
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And Grey's trolling is the most low-grade I've seen in a long time. He has no idea what he's talking about.

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#14 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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Don't be a coward Sony, I want my fans at 100% all the time! That roaring Pro power, I want it back!

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#15 GoldenElementXL
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They could probably turn the fan off during all the cutscenes. Naughty Dog games will have the PS5 running on silent

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#16 svaubel
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Not sure how this is news. Fan curves have been in consoles since at least the 360/PS3 era and in PC since longer.

Whatever helps cows sleep at night.

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#17  Edited By Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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Good to know I need an internet connection to not burn the house.

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#18 BassMan
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They can control the fans dude!
They can control the fans dude!

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#19 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@techhog89: Twisted into a negative...

A hardware company is going to release a fan curve after the console is launched meaning the noise of the consoles prior to launch e.g. preview and hardware reviews are all but pointless.

Nah that's not negative, its calling out a company for trying to avoid bad press for having a loud console.

Also trolling? get my nutts out your mouth, don't know what I am talking about?!... I spent Β£100's over the years making my PC's quieter and modded them and have MA in Computer Science and worked in marketing. I know what Sony are doing, its clear as day from the moment they only let out those "preview" videos in Japan, I knew what they were doing.

This thing will be hotter, louder and bigger than a XSX which is going to be stronger than it... In terms of hardware, Sony gets a C, for Clowning there fans.

1800p VS 4K all over again.

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#20 PC_Rocks
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Wait, PS5 runs hotter than XSX? Wasn't there a thread about XSX being a flat heater or something and PS5 is cooler in comparison?

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#21  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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This seems non news worthy, but it also seems odd the fan wouldn't have already been variable when the console was running hotter... either way people can take this as a good thing or a bad thing but I don't feel it has any implications at all unless the console is a lot louder. That said I guess I lucked out with my 4 PS4's with not having one that gets loud like others have reported... and all of them have been played the hell out of. Is there just some lemons, or do some games just push more heat which makes the fans louder? I've played hundreds of games and haven't even noticed a difference, but I've also seen youtube videos that if my console sounded like that I wouldn't even run the damn thing in fear it might blow up.. lol.

I'm very happy I've never had an issue with fan noise on any of my consoles across all the big 3.

I have a feeling both consoles are going to run hot, and I hope both are quiet.

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#22 rzxv04
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I don't know. Sounds good if the fan can optimize per game basis but I'd like to have options too like "acceptably hot" and quiet or jet engine blast off and cool.

Afaik that can be done on PC. Changing curves or something.

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#23 2mrw
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sure Sony "yawn"

can't wait for your useless next announcement

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#24 BlackShirt20
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Poor thing has heating issues.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

@techhog89: Twisted into a negative...

A hardware company is going to release a fan curve after the console is launched meaning the noise of the consoles prior to launch e.g. preview and hardware reviews are all but pointless.

Nah that's not negative, its calling out a company for trying to avoid bad press for having a loud console.

Also trolling? get my nutts out your mouth, don't know what I am talking about?!... I spent Β£100's over the years making my PC's quieter and modded them and have MA in Computer Science and worked in marketing. I know what Sony are doing, its clear as day from the moment they only let out those "preview" videos in Japan, I knew what they were doing.

This thing will be hotter, louder and bigger than a XSX which is going to be stronger than it... In terms of hardware, Sony gets a C, for Clowning there fans.

1800p VS 4K all over again.

Sony is saying that they're going to improve acoustics over time. You're twisting it into saying that current impressions are misleading. It's a jump bordering on a conspiracy theory.

Then we have you talking about how the cooling is cheap because it uses heatpipes... Literally what? High-end air coolers on PC usually use heatpipes too. Vapor chambers aren't automatically better. It all depends on the design. Sony found that heatpipes work better for their design. As for "one fan," It's a huge, deep fan. It'll move a lot of air.

It feels foolish to jump on this hill because you're gonna look like an idiot if you end up being wrong.

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#26 masonshoemocker
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This fan curve should pretty much be set in stone unless they had the fan curve of the PS5 set on silent or possibly fixed to prevent any presentation of the PS5 being loud. I can only see the need to update the fan curve after the fact(launch) if the PS5 is heating up faster with graphic intensive/high fps games than the fan can accommodate at lower RPMs.

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#27 briguyb13
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So in other words the system was over heating and they needed to increase the fan speeds. Gotcha.

This thing is gonna melt all over your living room like a volcano erupting and hot, melted plastic will ooz all over the place like lava.

lol

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#28 tormentos
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@Pedro:

So no proof ok.πŸ˜‚

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#29  Edited By tdkmillsy
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More secret sauce, this PS5 is going to be a beast if all the secret sauce kicks in at once.

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#30 JoshRMeyer
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Lems: "PS5 runs so hot it'll melt all over your living room."

Lems: "PS5 runs 3 degrees hotter than XSX."

Lems: "XSX has a great cooling solution and runs cool."

Lol, 3 degrees hotter is such a big difference! Which is just a rumor Lems use. Probably not even true.

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#31 tormentos
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Let me repeat my self again.

DF claims the series X is the hottest console they have ever ested,and that was not on a true next gen game build from ground up to take advantage of every bit of power the machine has.

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#32 SecretPolice
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If only Phony would allow DF to get their hands on the TumorStation.

Oh well, cows don't care as long as there's a good milking in it for'em...

lol :P

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#33 The6millionLies
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"It's the hottest console they ever tested ( DF on XSX ) "but they also said that the XSX cooling solution works and keeps the console quite and dissipating the hot air.

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#34 xantufrog  Moderator
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@techhog89: he seems to really want this thing to fail... not sure why. And yeah - this nonsense about heat pipes? What?

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#35 SolidGame_basic
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I thought this was system wars, not fan wars?

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#36 Pedro
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@tormentos: Triggered 2.0 😎

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@SolidGame_basic said:

I thought this was system wars, not fan wars?

Alright I'll give you that one, pretty funny. πŸ‘

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@fedor said:

So it has a fan curve... Amazing.

Guess which fan curve they applied to those "selected" PS5 youtubers?... This reeks of oh yeah you'll need to have the fan at 80-90% to get 2GHz on graphically demanding games.

A single fan with no vapour chamber is not enough to cool a 5700 let alone something with 2 TFLOPS more power and a CPU at the same time without turning up the RPM.

I called this and Tormentoes is on a defence rampage, I feel bad for these "grown" men... How can you be so attached to a f***ing object is beyond me.

why in the hell does everyone saying the ps5 does not have a vapor chamber?

the heat seek was designed to act like a vapor chamber. the guy said it in the tear down.

on top of a that a thick custom fan that is on both sides of the system.

on top of that liquid metal on the chip that they took 2 years to get it right.

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#39 Ten_Pints  Online
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To be fair thats a good idea, fans can be annoying if they constantly ramp up and down, if it knows what the speed should likely to be it will be less annoying.

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#40 regnaston
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@gifford38 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@fedor said:

So it has a fan curve... Amazing.

Guess which fan curve they applied to those "selected" PS5 youtubers?... This reeks of oh yeah you'll need to have the fan at 80-90% to get 2GHz on graphically demanding games.

A single fan with no vapour chamber is not enough to cool a 5700 let alone something with 2 TFLOPS more power and a CPU at the same time without turning up the RPM.

I called this and Tormentoes is on a defence rampage, I feel bad for these "grown" men... How can you be so attached to a f***ing object is beyond me.

why in the hell does everyone saying the ps5 does not have a vapor chamber?

the heat seek was designed to act like a vapor chamber. the guy said it in the tear down.

on top of a that a thick custom fan that is on both sides of the system.

on top of that liquid metal on the chip that they took 2 years to get it right.

"act like" β•ͺ "vapor chamber"

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@regnaston said:
@gifford38 said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@fedor said:

So it has a fan curve... Amazing.

Guess which fan curve they applied to those "selected" PS5 youtubers?... This reeks of oh yeah you'll need to have the fan at 80-90% to get 2GHz on graphically demanding games.

A single fan with no vapour chamber is not enough to cool a 5700 let alone something with 2 TFLOPS more power and a CPU at the same time without turning up the RPM.

I called this and Tormentoes is on a defence rampage, I feel bad for these "grown" men... How can you be so attached to a f***ing object is beyond me.

why in the hell does everyone saying the ps5 does not have a vapor chamber?

the heat seek was designed to act like a vapor chamber. the guy said it in the tear down.

on top of a that a thick custom fan that is on both sides of the system.

on top of that liquid metal on the chip that they took 2 years to get it right.

"act like" β•ͺ "vapor chamber"

so acting like one makes it run like one correct?

saying one is a vapor chamber and one that acts like one = works the same no?

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#42 regnaston
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@gifford38: the word "like" can mean that it has some similarities but not 100% similar. For example when people try new meat they say "tastes like chicken" does that mean it is chicken? Nope, there are similarities but differences as well.

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#43 tormentos
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@Pedro:

Still no proof? Ok

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#44 Gifford38
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@Pedro said:

In other words its going to be quiet at launch and slowly get louder with each update. πŸ˜‚

no the fact is the ps4 base model was not built to run games like god of war or ghost that stress the ps4 that makes my ps4 sound like its going orbital lol. the fan in the base and pro just is not cut out for the chip set in the both systems. once the games get more complex later in the gen with the ps5. games might stress out what they original thought the system can handle. this way if that certain game comes they can update the software to the fan.

Im not defending sony here because the ps4 base and pro were the worse consoles made from sony when it came to cooling the system.

my pro is at sony right now getting fixed for the 2nd time.

If sony did not deliver on there first party games I would of switched to xbox this gen.

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#45 Gifford38
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@regnaston said:

@gifford38: the word "like" can mean that it has some similarities but not 100% similar. For example when people try new meat they say "tastes like chicken" does that mean it is chicken? Nope, there are similarities but differences as well.

I can see what your saying. but it tastes just like chicken which is the most important part of it. your eating the chicken for the taste. which means even if not the 100% vapor chamber it can be use to act like it in the most affective way that the vapor chamber is doing. which is to help to cool the console.

i get its not 100% vapor chamber but its a fine engineered heat sink that sony took 2 years to come up with to be able to act like one.

I don't think they ever made a heatsink that was designed to act like a vapor chamber as well.

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#46 regnaston
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@gifford38 said:
@regnaston said:

@gifford38: the word "like" can mean that it has some similarities but not 100% similar. For example when people try new meat they say "tastes like chicken" does that mean it is chicken? Nope, there are similarities but differences as well.

I can see what your saying. but it tastes just like chicken which is the most important part of it. your eating the chicken for the taste. which means even if not the 100% vapor chamber it can be use to act like it in the most affective way that the vapor chamber is doing. which is to help to cool the console.

i get its not 100% vapor chamber but its a fine engineered heat sink that sony took 2 years to come up with to be able to act like one.

I don't think they ever made a heatsink that was designed to act like a vapor chamber as well.

yep

It will probably function well and cool as needed

(mind you I have seen some engineer solutions for problems that were just a waste of time and resources, engineers can be a rare breed at times :D )

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#47 tormentos
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@the6millionlies:

That is what every single cooling solution is about, but that doesnt erase that still is the hottest and thats says allot when the 360 sure was hot as hell and other consoles as well.

Basically the PS5 couls be hotter and still this would be the 2 hottest consoles ever release.

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#48 Ghost_of_Phobos  Online
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Oh wait I thought it meant Sony could update fanboys remotely. Like improved syntax and such.

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#49 Techhog89
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ITT: People who don't even know what a vapor chamber is act like it's the best cooling solution in the world with no weaknesses whatsoever.

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#50 I_P_Daily
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@sakaixx: I read it as Sony will update its fans (cows) on games that will be optimised.

PS5 only has 1 fan not more lol.