Sony: We Want To Push Social gaming Like Nintendo & Wii U

That's a crucial difference between Morpheus and the PC VR systems. This is a solution built for a console audience with the living room in mind. Sony's tech aims to invite in an audience, and get them involved in gameplay. As Shuhei Yoshida explains, it's an important feature borne out of a collaboration between hardware, R&D and in-house game developers - an important advantage Sony has over its competitors:

"Like you're probably aware, we have a cross-functional, international team: the hardware guys in Japan, the R&D teams and game teams globally... That undistorted, regular image - the idea came from the game teams. Our teams wanted to create social game not unlike something similar Nintendo is doing with Wii U. So one person might be wearing the headset, while another person might be participating, watching on the large-screen TV. So that idea came from the game teams and the hardware team implemented it."

Indeed, Sony's entire push into the world of VR is a direct result of the ideas generated by the R&D and game development teams. The rise of Oculus and PC VR actually happened in parallel with internal demos and discussions at Sony.

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Actually, this is the first time I have even considered this analogy, but all of a sudden, it makes sense, all of a sudden, I can see the implications for game design (at the very least on console). For the first time, I am excited at the prospect of VR, because I see it as something that could legitimately impact game design for the better. Now whether Sony can pull it off with Morpheus or not remains to be seen, but I will be watching it very intently.

Hahahahahaha so they want their social media to not catch on at all.

Great comparison Sony.

Figures. Sony is even stealing ideas from Nintendo that Nintendo themselves are struggling to sell people on. Although this does explain why Shuhei bought 2 of them.

So they want to bring console multiplayer gaming back to the living room with VR, yet the great majority of multiplayer experiences on the PS4 are online. Okay...

Nintendo should go third party

Sony will go bankrupt before Nintendo has to go third party.

Stay jealous of the Wii U's superior exclusives.

but Their Share feature is pretty much that.

Man I want a Wii U. Can't right now but will get one eventually. Xenoblade and the next Zelda look amazing.

Typical response is typical.

So they want to eliminate split screen by substituting a VR headset for one player. Groundbreaking.

What I'm getting from that is that Sony want VR to be dead after it's first year. Cool beans. :P

On consoles it will die, not enough power in them to drive those blockbuster games but on PC, its going to thrive.

I know. Its pure genius from a business stand point. They make NO extra money off split screen, with this, one has to buy the headset.

@clyde46: I'm pretty sure both the PS4 and XB1 can do PS3/X360 level of graphics with VR. It would be more than enough to wow the general audience honestly. Plus VR is far more dependant on pure geometry design (since that becomes massively important in a full 3D space) which the current gen cand do easily enough, than great shaders/textures/etc (something which they struggle with). Obviously PC can do both, but the experience itself can be achieved on both fronts.

I think Sony has learned with the 3D mode for the PS3 games and will try to push different games for VR; aka, not necessarily UC4 + VR but perhaps a different UC game for VR (built with that in mind from the ground up). Of course this is Sony we are talking about and they may just do "dumb-dumb" once again :P

Still like I mentioned in another post, price wil be paramount for Morpheus. Too expensive and it'll be dead from day-1. Same logic applies on PC, though there will always be a smaller/niche market of people who can afford it there.

this is not new.

Even though now it has the VR spin ever since the rumors of PS4 started one of the descriptions has always been to make it and be very social.

And this BS statement on Nintendo should go to 3rd party is has been talk to death for over a decades now. Once you go 3rd party, your not coming back to console business.

Good luck telling that to people like Pachter.

What's the point of superior exclusives if no-ones buys the system to play them on? lol.

@misterpmedia: superior exclusives? Damn I live your sense of humor.

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Whats the point in having the most selling ,most powerful console in the world if the Exclusives are Mediocre?

Why should I care that no one is buying these superior exclusives when I am?

sony: "we want to push social gaming like nintendo... but...um... we don't know how the internet works."

"we reset the router and put all our passwords on twitter and everything and it still won't do nothin'"

"gawd!"

Both missing the point, the original point was Nintendo going third party and why that might be an inevitability. 'Superior exclusives', while subjective, won't matter if it doesn't move the hardware. It's got nothing to do with Sony's exclusives, Sony isn't having the problem of selling hardware, Nintendo is. I think some people are overlooking how much Nintendo has to knock it out of the park with their next big hardware endeavour.

Amazingly I'll even quote patcher, if every person who bought a 3ds had bought a wiiU too their future would look a lot brighter.

Sony wakes up to social gaming:

'Hey, I get this super cool VR thing to play this game with, you sit over there and play it on the monitor'.

Okay.

Again, typical response is typical.

In the US people will always attempt to make a quick buck. VR seems like it will only ever become a niche market because many will see it as easy lawsuit, leading to bad press.

>Nintendo

>Social gaming

Sony wants to copy a company with the shittiest online system. To push social gaming.

Typical head-in-the-sand response must also be typical then. :)

Look, it's bullcrap that is "begged" for that isn't going to happen even if Nintendo's next console blows it.

Sony can't do anything unless Nintendo does it first. I'm surprised they are even coming out with a VR headset.

It isn't begged for, it's just how it could turn out.

To quote Kyle Katarn: "You're joking right?"

Do you always read too much into people entertaining the idea that it's a possibility or ?

Maybe you weren't begging for it, but the people I've talked to about it on this very forum were as clear as crystals on that they WERE begging Nintendo to go third party, ala Atari/SEGA.

does it make you all warm and fuzzy to think about all the millions of people with the same product as you?

Another one who misses the point lol. Feel free to take out a minute or two to read the whole thread. Cheers. Some surprisingly insecure Nintendo fans in here haha.

Hadn't thought about the possibility of this sort of thing. If they can get the general public as excited about this as the Wii and put it out at an attractive price they could be on to a nice little earner.

The sort of games that would be made wouldn't need much horsepower either so it all makes sense now. VR perhaps not as useless for this console gen as I was thinking.

I like it. All I can think of is a Terminator vs. people FPS though

Shouldn't be too hard since Nintendo doesn't put much into the online experience.

Hmm it's not really an entertaining idea you're entertaining there, but I can see Nintendo go to PC.
Sony and MS have the same problem though, of having nowhere to go after this generation. How could they be relevant in a few years?

I could see Nintendo perhaps lasting another gen on their own hardware with Wii-U-esque figures. I don't see Sony or MS making another subPC and getting away with it. The PC is catching up on all terrains and is doing so pretty quickly. And no way they can make this generation last that long without losing all of their audience. With their current plans for this generation, they are practically giving away the market to whoever wants it.
Maybe Valve does. Right now Steamboxes are a mess, but I can see them sort that out in the next 4 years.

Well the headset is the equivelent of 720P Per eye so they are already on Wii U level anyway

If you're a good, reasonable businessman, you'll observe good ideas from your competition and try to use it to your advantage. Call it stealing or whatever. Doesn't matter. Sony has an amazing marketing team and if anyone can sell people on a concept, it would be them. Perhaps Nintendo should take a page from Sony. Maybe then they'll be able to attract 3rd parties or sell their console in decent numbers next time.

There are a lot of good things that I think about when I think about the WiiU and Nintendo.

Social game ain't one of them. lol

@gabensherald:

I love lists like this because they omit all sorts of details. The SNES CD was never released and was being developed between Nintendo and Sony. The original PS controller added another set of shoulder buttons. Dark Cloud is quite different from Zelda.

And the whole list doesn't matter anyway. Companies take note of each other. It happens and there's nothing wrong with it. Look at the Wii U Pro controller. It looks a lot like an Xbox 360 controller with buttons moved around and missing analog triggers and headset jack. But that doesn't matter, either. Boo le hoo, teh copy!

Isn't that the opposite of the VR they are pushing?

Shouldn't Sony be focusing on their Amiibo ripoffs? You know they are coming.