Sony Passed on EA Access For PS4 as it's Not 'Good Value'

@ghostwarrior786: My issue isn't with the plethora of services that could round the corner, it's with Sonys response. We're so quick to consider gamers the lowest common denominator that we actually crave a new feature to be blown up before it even launches. EA doesn't govern my gaming life... do they for you? Again I say that if this new service shows little value it will fail... as did U play or OnLive or GFWL. listening to a suit dictate what has worth and what doesn't have worth to me is lame. Put the product out and see how gamers respond. We WILL reject it if it isn't worth the asking price. There are PLENTY of other publishers willing to play ball on psn+ if EA doesn't wish to partake.

As for the PSNow Comment, I stand by it in the sense that sony seems content with judging a third party service as "no value", yet their own service (which we actually HAVE seen in action) by all accounts and for many different reasons has no value either... I like sony and all but that was a painful interview that comes off as a cheap shot to me.

Does the service prove to have no value to gamers? Or does it rattle the cage of psn+...? For them to speak on our behalf is wholely lame.

LOL

The only reason they didn't go through with it was because of the immense backlash and the prospect of tons of lems flocking to Sony in droves. Which a lot of them have done anyway.

The XBone was set to reign supreme this generation and then Microsoft fucked it up in one fell swoop at E3.

They abandoned DRM and they've already all but abandoned the Kinnect which XBOX fanboys said was going to be so much better than last generations version and "revolutionize" gaming. LOL

i couldnt care less about sony response because like all companies its just pr garbage but i do think they made the right decision here. console gamers dont know shit, they willingly paid a subscription fee for xbl and encouraged shit like pre-order bonuses, 2 things which are now the norm in the industry. i dont trust these dude bros at all, especially when the future of the industry is at stake so im happy sony came to this decision.

i dont like the idea of publishers having their own service on top of ps+/xbl, that would be a disaster for the industry imo. it also reduces the value of ps+/xbl because to play online we are going to have to pay regardless but wouldnt u rather get those 'free' monthly games from all publishers instead of just 1st party exclusives? because not too far from now, if this thing is a success, ea/activision/ubisoft will stop offering their games on ps+/games with gold

im sure sony are not telling us the real reason for them disallowing it but i couldnt care less about their real motive because like u said they are a company and want to make profit. im just glad sony said no to this shit, i dont want publishers to start their own services

@TheEroica:

hahaha. Sony is playing the role of big brother and they don't want to compete. This can go 1 of 2 ways for Sony. EA plays ball on the psn+. Orrr....EA doesn't. Sounds to me like they won't. Will other companies follow suit and put services on the xb1? oh this could be a nightmare for you ps4 owners. lols....gawd!

What does any of that have to do with what I said? I know why any business changes anything. Money. Why did Sony decide Rumble wasnt "so last gen" for the PS3? Because consumers didnt like not having it. Thats what you're supposed to do in business. Change what obviously isnt going to work. This doesnt placate the fact that MS was effin stupid with those policies. But if I was going to hold every company responsible for what they almost did, I wouldnt be buying much from anyone.

Still doesnt answer the statement of how does Sony get to decide what I value for my money?

Well looks like its too late. One already is. If its successful other will follow, and that has been the trend of business since humans started trading goods. It will only be stopped by us, the consumer. Telling me whats of value, especially when you are trying something in the same ball park is stupid, but I understand. They dont want competition on their platform.

Unless you buy multiple, mediocre EA releases every year...why does it even matter?

This is another cash grab by EA, period.

Which is why in the other thread, the one announcing EA's service's existence I have stated I will wait to see it up and running for a while, and what games get added. I dont decide by publisher which games I buy. I decide by what I want to play. And there are quite a few EA published like Dead space 2&3 that I havent played. It matters for the same reason No used games mattered. Its my money. I dont want a company telling me what I value spending it on.

Hhhmm.. Mirror's Edge 2, Dragon Age: Inquisition... maybe not.

Probably. In Sony's defense the PSNow will have a hell of a lot more games then EA Access. The big difference here is that PSNow will be streaming and EA Access with be digital download (I believe). Also, I don't think Sony would make a large profit with this service immediately, which probably concerns them. Sony needs profits NOW, not 12-18 months from now. M$ can afford to wait and they have the servers to host something like this if EA doesn't.

the console consumers are fukin stupid, did they stop ms from charging for playing online? did they say no to yearly cod rehashes? did they speak up against this bullshit pre-order bonuses?

this ea service isnt even a direct competitor to psnow because that is a streaming service and the library will be mostly old sony games. this is just ea deciding not to put their games on the monthly ps+/games with gold program and instead charging people extra

Sounds more like Sony is afraid of competition. I dont care about the EA service but not giving their customers a choice and saying they know whats best for them is the wrong way to go. Thats how the PS3 happened.

Well I wish I didnt have to pay for anything in Life. But I am not stupid for paying for what I wish to make use of. I pay for Live and PS+. COD I dont, but who am I to tell someone who loves them they are stupid? You are basically assessing value for others, and evidently so are Sony. Doesnt sound all that level headed to me.

They're right.

This is a cash grab by EA and the start of a slippery slope. It also undermines the value of GWG. Hopefully it fails like Origin did. Alas lems will eat it up like the losers they are because it's something special just for them.

cows got owned by sony.

i already complained to shuhei and playstation on twitter about this ( doesnt affect me thought, i got an xb1 ) about how stupid their reasoning is.

ps now better have ea games on their service and match the subscription price. $5 a month is nothing to be able to play all of ea's games.

cows, sony cockblocked you guys badly

It would make perfect sense for them to get EA's service on the platform when they're pushing PS NOW.. :/

Hahahahha he thinks this is happening.

Well said.

Or because it would be direct competition with better games atm

Question: were you for or against the first pass for the X1?

Why would it be competition if PS+ is needed for online play on the PS4, and Plus does discounts and games across all publishers whereas Access is EA only?

If anything this dilutes the value of XBL now. Ain't gonna see BF4 on GWG now.

If Sony could put up their first party titles on their streaming service at a reasonable price maybe others will follows. Until then, I don't understand why Sony would reject this value but allow other publishers to extort prices on PSnow.

Did you see what I said in the other thread?

EDIT to summarise - I think this is a rip off, would not want. I think PSNow for PS3 is amazing deal, but absolutely awful for the PS4.

Also would you need PSN for this? Lots of people don't play online and so direct comeptition, if you do, then paywall hilarity.

Unless they wanted MS to buy them out they're not going to pull support from the PS4 when it has such a strong lead. They're still kicking themselves over Titian Fall not being on the PS4.

About PS4 Plus not having DA BIG GAMEZ? Because those games are now more likely to show up on Plus than GWG. What incentive does EA have to put them on GWG when they can leave them on Access and get more of a cut?

Now watch as this gets copied industry-wide and you'll see even less games.

thats what im assuming this service is yes....but even if it isnt....subscription isnt bad value even if it is just a rotation of monthly game rentals.

i think its stupid that sony would cockblock cows from a service that their chief rival is offering when psnow seems to be horrendous with its own pricing plan.

So basically what I said about direct competition .....

Also what incentive does EA have to put them on Plus?

No there are only four games will initially be available: FIFA 14, Madden NFL 25, Peggle 2, and Battlefield 4, You cannot get new games as you only get a 10% discount on new Digital titles.

It seems like a fine value if you're into EA games. It's $30 a year or $5 a month. Sony simply doesn't want anything that competes with PS+ on their consoles. If you're getting games digitally on PS4, they want the PSN store to be the only possible outlet.

It's their system so they can do what they want with it, but I'm not buying the spin.

You're getting two nearly obsolete sports games, a broken FPS, a puzzle game and the promise of more stuff to come at some point.

By the way, Access and Now and nothing alike. Plus and XBLG is closer.

If that means I get non-EA games on Plus, great. After last year I want nothing to do with them.

The Plus subsidy money, perhaps?

That's why they just passed on more gaming options for their customers. /sounds legit :p

I buy a CD every time I buy a digital MP3 album on Amazon. It's cheaper and more value that way. /options suck amiright? :P

Who cares? It's EA ....I wouldn't pay for their shit service or their over rated games.

I didn't know you owned an X1?

Wouldn't...not won't. Subtle difference. I just despise EA.

As I posted in the article here on the site, what kind of excuse is that? They act like it's a requirement to subscribe, not an option. Limiting your consumers options while claiming you're "#4theplayers" is laughable.

well sometimes decisions have to be made on behalf of stupid people. this isnt the pc crowd where companies are going up against informed users, most console users are casual plebs who dont know any better. remember when ms tried this whole subscription crap on pc? what happened? they got their ass kicked and left pc gaming.

this ea service isnt really a competitor to ps+, would anyone really cancel their ps+ membership and not play multiplayer any more just because of this ea service? nope, will people wanting to play old ps games opt for this service instead? mostly no.

whats the first pass?

I do to. I still enjoy a lot of their games. Their business practices leave a lot to be desired.

I always welcome more options tough. As long as it's not forced on me.

RUMORED LIST

Sony passed.

This year

Peggle 2

Madden 25

Battlefield 4

Fifa 14

UFC14

Titanfall

NBA Live 14

Need for Speed

NHL14

Next year

Dragon Age

Battlefield hardline

Madden 15

Fifa 15

NBA Live 15

UFC 15

Mirror's Edge 2

NHL 15

Year after that

Battlefront

Mass Effect 4

Dead Space 4

Madden 16

Fifa 16

NBA Live 16

UFC 16

NHL16

I have an X1 and I STILL think this service is whack and unwarranted while trying to undercut Gamestop for undercutting EA.

Gamestop is selling the subscriptions. The only retail store announced so far to sell them?

I dont know why anyone is shocked, I swear people would complain if sony actually "allowed" Ea service. Sony has psnow, why also add another fee on top of ps+ and psnow fees. Yeah, options are great but lets be honest its EA, we all know there is going to be a catch. EA and M$ are in bed with each other and that's fine with me because I want nothing to do with both companies. Both are very anti consumer. Lems are jumping for joy because it seems special now and the x1 is lacklust. But the price is pretty good for EA service, the price for ps now needs to go way down. It should be scrapped if sony cant get its act together.

thats like every company...they always promise something. more games will be announced and ill just wait for that...but at $30 a year...its not bad in value especially if even half their catalog was made available

ok clarify this for me (not for argument sake), when psnow was first announced, wasnt there some indication that there would be some kind of subscription for it or was it a pure rental service that many just assumed would aslo include an all access.

i ask because i thought someone said something about a subscription plan.

Glad to see Playstation Network with some quality control, unlike Xbox One...

Hope you enjoy being milked lems, it's what you do best.

Yeah but they're still being undercut in terms of sales for used games. Not saying EA doesn't have every right to do that though. It's all about money - as it should be .

I see this as the beginning of the end for Gamestop if more companies get on board and this becomes the norm.

@ghostwarrior786:

well sometimes decisions have to be made on behalf of stupid people. this isnt the pc crowd where companies are going up against informed users, most console users are casual plebs who dont know any better. remember when ms tried this whole subscription crap on pc? what happened? they got their ass kicked and left pc gaming.

this ea service isnt really a competitor to ps+, would anyone really cancel their ps+ membership and not play multiplayer any more just because of this ea service? nope, will people wanting to play old ps games opt for this service instead? mostly no.

Then why not let the consumer decide for themselves. You are on high horse with this console gamers are stupid, blah, blah. This is how dictatorships start. "We can make decisions better for the people" Sad part is I think you believe this BS. Nobody should decide what others value for their money.

I would've subscribed to that if it was on PS4. Bad move Sony