Sony is the moral winner of this generation

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#1 YoYo278
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Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

They didn't force their way into new territory, they didn't buy out any companies, or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives' , they don't charge for their online service, and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals. They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense, and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely.

In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest.

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#2 Ravensmash
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>Morals >Business :lol: Shut up TC.
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#3 NeonNinja
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I didn't know we were going to suddenly make up categories for giant mega companies to "win."

In that case, Microsoft is the true winner because the majority of PC gamers use a Windows-based OS and since PC has the most amount of exclusives AND is the most powerful, combined with MS's Xbox 360 sales and exclusives on that platform, no one comes close.

There. See what I did? Make up something stupid. We can do this all day.

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#4 fernandmondego_
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Sony did buy developers.
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#5 clone01
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And I hear they give you a rainbow and a puppy with every purchase.

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#6 GunSmith1_basic
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nice guys finish last? Seriously, you could say the n64 was the moral platform compared to psone because it had better hardware, lower price, more reliable, and it used a format that discouraged piracy. GC, same thing. Then there's the Genesis, which broke Nintendo's unfair iron grip on third parties and raised the bar in hardware.
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#7 PillyChickle
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Topic title made me lol

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#8 woodenfork21
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another Sony apologist trying to get a win for the failed company from last place...pretty funny. give it up...you guys are acting pathetic.

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#9 lostrib
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Good thing Morals pay the bills...oh wait herp derp

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#10 DireOwl
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"The first five million will buy it, whatever it is, even if it does have games."- SCEE CEO David Reeves. It was pretty much a Blu-Ray push device for the first year. :|

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#11 fernandmondego_
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nice guys finish last? Seriously, you could say the n64 was the moral platform compared to psone because it had better hardware, lower price, more reliable, and it used a format that discouraged piracy. GC, same thing. Then there's the Genesis, which broke Nintendo's unfair iron grip on third parties and raised the bar in hardware.GunSmith1_basic
God bless Sega for ending the tyranny of Nintendo's reign.
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#12 FireEmblem_Man
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Yeah, it's very moral of Sony to use the $600 price tag on their fanbase....

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#14 D4W1L4H
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lol at thinking money loving companies have morals.
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Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

They didn't force their way into new territory, they didn't buy out any companies, or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives' , they don't charge for their online service, and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals. They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense, and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely.

In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest.

YoYo278

How refreshing to see a thread that complements what a company has done instead of bashing it....

It makes me want to start a Wii love thread :D

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#16 GTerror666
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They didn't force their way into new territory, YoYo278

I wonder what sega has to say about this lol

Sony are just as heartless as the rest, unfortunately they sucks at the business and must pay the ultimate price.

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"The first five million will buy it, whatever it is, even if it does have games."- SCEE CEO David Reeves.

DireOwl
That....is shocking
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#18 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

"The first five million will buy it, whatever it is, even if it does have games."- SCEE CEO David Reeves.

BibiMaghoo
That....is shocking

Not really considering how many on here say that will buy a PS4 day one and there is literally no information on it. Sony has a fanebase where many will buy because of the company and not the system.
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#19 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="DireOwl"]

"The first five million will buy it, whatever it is, even if it does have games."- SCEE CEO David Reeves.

CanYouDiglt
That....is shocking

Not really considering how many on here say that will buy a PS4 day one and there is literally no information on it. Sony has a fanebase where many will buy because of the company and not the system.

I know that. I mean its shocking that a CEO would say it to any press.
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What the f*** is this blabbering nonsensical garbage i just read...? Have peoples feelings become so hurt that their console of choice isnt doing as well as they hoped that they make up stupid ass, literally stupid ass ficticious awards to make them feel better? And the worst of all is the comment about "Anyone who cares" ... please give it up. To even suggest this morality in business is so far beyond lunacy its scary....
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#21 kbanna
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Moral winner?? hahaha. Just have to make up something for them to win at?? Pathetic

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#22 GreenFalcon5267
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:lol:

Cows are funny

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#23 Omzzz
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Lol as sony continues to fail more, the dumber the posts get. :lol: nice logic
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#24 BrunoBRS
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moral winners? whoa talk about scrapping the bottom of the barrel for a victory.
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#25 heretrix
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:lol:

Moral winner? Hey that's a new one. It's pure Bullsh*t, but at least I haven't heard it dozens of times.

Thanks for the laffs.

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#26 organic_machine
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What the f*** is this blabbering nonsensical garbage i just read...? Have peoples feelings become so hurt that their console of choice isnt doing as well as they hoped that they make up stupid ass, literally stupid ass ficticious awards to make them feel better? And the worst of all is the comment about "Anyone who cares" ... please give it up. To even suggest this morality in business is so far beyond lunacy its scary....TheEroica

One look at TC's sig and it's obvious he's a troll account.

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#27 DireOwl
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[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

"The first five million will buy it, whatever it is, even if it does have games."- SCEE CEO David Reeves.

BibiMaghoo

That....is shocking

Yeah, but here is what I think:

1. He was still riding the high wave for the massive success of the PS2, and got arrogant, and said some things he shouldn't have.

2. He was drunk. :P

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#28 Frostbite24
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"][QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"] That....is shocking

Not really considering how many on here say that will buy a PS4 day one and there is literally no information on it. Sony has a fanebase where many will buy because of the company and not the system.

I know that. I mean its shocking that a CEO would say it to any press.

Hey, being one of the leaders of the most moral game company this gen is tough. Give this man your moral support. Now.
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#29 groverslanding
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And the moral of this story is,

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Don't finish in dead last and throw all your marketshare away with bankruptcy on its way

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#30 lhughey
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In truth the 360 is the moral victor even though it will finish 2nd in sales. Odd take on the topic tc.
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#31 groverslanding
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In truth the 360 is the moral victor even though it will finish 2nd in sales. Odd take on the topic tc.lhughey
Pd3 will never leave third.

Never ever never ever never nerver

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dud

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Did MS kill your dog or something?
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#34 OhSnapitz
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Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

  • They didn't force their way into new territory [could've sworn Sony is a Japanese company and I live in the U.S :|]
  • they didn't buy out any companies [Sucker Punch Anyone :|]
  • or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives [Batman Arkam Asylum Playable Joker Anyone :|]
  • they don't charge for their online service [ PSN+ Anyone :|]
  • and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals [ Move anyone :|]
  • They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense [As did M$ :|]
  • and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely [So that will explain why sony pulled BC support :|]


In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest. [In Dead Last Place]

YoYo278

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#35 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="YoYo278"]

Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

  • They didn't force their way into new territory [could've sworn Sony is a Japanese company and I live in the U.S :|]
  • they didn't buy out any companies [Sucker Punch Anyone :|]
  • or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives [Batman Arkam Asylum Playable Joker Anyone :|]
  • they don't charge for their online service [ PSN+ Anyone :|]
  • and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals [ Move anyone :|]
  • They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense [As did M$ :|]
  • and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely [So that will explain why sony pulled BC support :|]


In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest. [In Dead Last Place]

OhSnapitz

Don't forget the ps2 ****cs line on psn...showing they have a working software emulator yet keep it for paying customers only.

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And I hear they give you a rainbow and a puppy with every purchase.

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Sony is the bestest, imho.
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Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

They didn't force their way into new territory, they didn't buy out any companies, or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives' , they don't charge for their online service, and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals. They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense, and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely.

In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest.

YoYo278

Really???


- They didn't force their way into new territory

"Sony paid $400-million for Blu-ray deal with Warner"

What remains a mystery is just how big a push Warner needed to pick sides. Analysts say Sony only prevailed following a heated bidding war against Toshiba, with the reward reaching as much as $400-million (U.S.). Neither side has confirmed the size of any bids or payments.

With billions of dollars in global sales at stake, experts had predicted the Toshiba-Sony battle would go on for years - not unlike the 1980s battle of videotape formats between VHS **** and Betamax (Sony). That war lasted a decade, leaving Sony battered and humiliated.

So how did this epic battle come to such an abrupt end?

The answer lies in part with the bruising Sony experienced with Betamax, which, like Blu-ray, was also the better product on paper.

For more that 20 years, Sony has been "haunted by Betamax" and was fiercely determined not to let history repeat itself, explained Xavier Drèze, a marketing professor at the University of Pennsylvania's Wharton business school.

"Sony was much smarter," Prof. Drèze said. "They understood this time they couldn't do it alone. They understood that they needed strategic partnerships with industry players."

-or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives'

Battlefield 3 DLC:will be available as a timed exclusive to PlayStation 3 players one week before it arrives on the PC and Xbox 360.

Mortal Kombat:Index ratio of 0.91
-Included Kratos as an exclusive playable character in PS3 version

Medal of Honor:Index ratio of 1.2
-Exclusively included anMOH Frontline HDremake
-Beta invite to Battlefield

Portal 2:Index ratio of 1.6
Sony's comment: "While the 1.6 index ratio is on par with the hardware index ratio, it isbelow the total index for shooting genre title on both platforms of1.9.The PS3 version exclusively included a PC version of the game and Steamintegration. Also, important to note, that Valve had a heritage onXbox and this was the first title in this generationthat shipped day and date on both platforms."

NBA 2K11:Index ratio of 1.2
-Move and 3D Support
-Partner in PlayStation/Coke promotion through Move launch

LA Noire:Index of 1.22
-PS3 version included an exclusive downloadable pack "The Consuls Car"

Dante's Inferno:Index ratio of .93
-Exclusive Divine Edition, exclusive demo on PSN

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#38 TheXFiles88
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Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

They didn't force their way into new territory, they didn't buy out any companies, or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives' , they don't charge for their online service, and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals. They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense, and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely.

In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest.

YoYo278

:lol: :lol: :lol:

-and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals.

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#39 mlbslugger86
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Moral winner, Two words that never end up in the same sentance

>>>Morals

>>Insert Corporation Name

And never the twain shall meet

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Moral winner? What are we in kindergarten again where everyone gets a scratch and sniff sticker for their efforts?
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The "3" in PlayStation 3 stands for 3rd place.

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Whatever helps you sleep at night. :lol:
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#43 RandoIph
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and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals.YoYo278
Yeah, they actually did. It was called Playstation Move, and it failed horribly.
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#44 Lord_Omikron666
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>Moral
>Sony

Pick one

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The same company that insisted their biggest fans should get a 2nd job to buy it? But I'm sure you're right /s.
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#46 ShadowMoses900
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The only thing Sony cares about is money, there are no morals. But you kinda have a point, I would say that both MS and Sony are evil but Sony is the lesser evil, MS is downright out for numero uno. They don't give a damn about their fanbase, unlike Sony who atleast cares somewhat.

Overall Sony is a company I trust with my money when I buy their products and they have never let me down, every video game system I bought from them was great in games and never had a shortage of them and they have all been reliable. Wish I could say the same for Xbox...

But to be completely honest, Sony isn't a moral company, none of them are. Not even Nintendo. Anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.

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Lol "morality" :lol: SW doesn't cease to make me laugh
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"The first five million will buy it, whatever it is, even if it does have games."- SCEE CEO David Reeves. It was pretty much a Blu-Ray push device for the first year. :|

DireOwl
pretty much sony was trying to recreate the success of the ps2, which mostly started out as a dvd player. sadly that success didnt translate well over to the ps3..lol
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Although it's looking more and more unlikely, even if the 360 does manage to sell marginally more consoles at the end of this race, sony are still the winners morally (and by extension arguably anyone who truly cares)

They didn't force their way into new territory, they didn't buy out any companies, or pay off any companies for 'timed exclusives' , they don't charge for their online service, and they haven't tried to alienate the core gamers in exchange for fast buck casuals. They started off selling their console at a loss at their own expense, and they've continued to support ps2 owners and not abandoned the previous generation entirely.

In many ways they have the more sustainable business model, which is why they will probably be in the console race the longest.

YoYo278


Spoken like a true company man. And the sad thing is Sony isn't even paying you for this...

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#50 polFdrawykS
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come on guys, cows are just desperate.. let them win at least once? :lol: MORAL WINNER WUT??? LOL