Sony is at it again... this time censoring the upcoming Tales of Arise.

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#1  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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Our faithful protectors working diligently to protect us from the bad things. Thank you Sony!

EDIT: This list is for those who won't or can't click on the link, for some odd reason:

1. Multiple costumes (all female characters) have been made less risque.

2. There is a hot springs scene which is completely removed from the game on Sony platforms. It is not plot significant, but it is still removed. The area still exists but one scene from there is gone.

3. Associated costumes (bath towels) that are earned by seeing the hot springs scene in question are completely removed.

4. The gender symbols (in the ingame language) on said hot spring’s doors have been removed.

5. There is an optional scene where the female characters make sexual remarks towards each other. This entire scene is removed.

6. There is a scene where one of the male characters walks in on one of the female characters, and it is implied that he sees her naked, though nothing is shown in any version. In the Playstation versions however, the dialog is different and the sexual implications are removed.

7. A weapon carried by one of the NPCs has had it’s design changed. I’m not entirely sure what the reasoning is behind this one.

8. There is a scene where an enemy punches one of your female characters. In the PS version, she dodges out of the way but still falls down.

9. A dialog choice has been altered. There is a flamboyant character (I don’t think it’s ever specified that he’s gay, but it’s heavily implied) who in other versions, you have the option of questioning his flirting towards you. But in the PS versions, this dialog is changed to you just calling him annoying.

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#2 palasta
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Mh, to me it looks like Sony is focusing on dull off-the-rack anime games.

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#3  Edited By uninspiredcup
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My gods, be harder to jerk off to anime woman.

P-A-N-I-C

Our freedoms is being stiffled. Tyranny. Litterally 1984.

The Jedi are taking over.

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#4  Edited By Mesome713
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This company is such a joke. Showing a lady in a towel or bathing suit equals bad, but showing heads being blown off with blood spraying everywhere equals good? Keep up the good work Sony, save the world from shirtless men and women in short shorts.

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Good job Sony. You've triggered the perverts.

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#6 Robbie23  Online
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Code vein got away got away with much worse.

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#7 DaVillain  Moderator
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From what I heard, it's mostly towards hot springs, bath, and shower scenes and so with that, I'd rather see the characters wearing casual clothes or party dresses so that's a given. But on a Sony console that's supposed to be aiming for it's homeland, why they would expect Arise to show anime tits with this direction? No matter, I was going to get Tales of Arise on PC anyway and I no longer buy JRPG games on consoles to avoid crap like this and have more freedom.

PC Privileges😎🤩

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#8 deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@davillain-: Getting it on Series X, here. So glad Sony no longer has a monopoly on consoles with games like this.

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#9 SecretPolice
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They're not known worldwide as Phony, the one and only for nuttin ya know. :P

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@shadyacshuns said:

@davillain-: Getting it on Series X, here. So glad Sony no longer has a monopoly on consoles with games like this.

Only 1 month away to play this awesome game so hopefully we'll enjoy it without restrictions. Unfortunately for Sony fans, they're just gonna have to sink or swim so oh well.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:

Good job Sony. You've triggered the perverts.

Psst, Psst. That's not how you represent your loyal fans. And you call yourself Sony cheerleader🤭

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#11 Litchie
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That's it? "This game is censored"? No info on what they censored and how?

Fun thread.

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#12  Edited By mrbojangles25
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I blame you, feminists! I BLAME YOOOOOOU!

*obvious sarcasm

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#13  Edited By deactivated-618bc23e9b1c9
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@Litchie said:

That's it? "This game is censored"? No info on what they censored and how?

Fun thread.

1. Multiple costumes (all female characters) have been made less risque.

2. There is a hot springs scene which is completely removed from the game on Sony platforms. It is not plot significant, but it is still removed. The area still exists but one scene from there is gone.

3. Associated costumes (bath towels) that are earned by seeing the hot springs scene in question are completely removed.

4. The gender symbols (in the ingame language) on said hot spring’s doors have been removed.

5. There is an optional scene where the female characters make sexual remarks towards each other. This entire scene is removed.

6. There is a scene where one of the male characters walks in on one of the female characters, and it is implied that he sees her naked, though nothing is shown in any version. In the Playstation versions however, the dialog is different and the sexual implications are removed.

7. A weapon carried by one of the NPCs has had it’s design changed. I’m not entirely sure what the reasoning is behind this one.

8. There is a scene where an enemy punches one of your female characters. In the PS version, she dodges out of the way but still falls down.

9. A dialog choice has been altered. There is a flamboyant character (I don’t think it’s ever specified that he’s gay, but it’s heavily implied) who in other versions, you have the option of questioning his flirting towards you. But in the PS versions, this dialog is changed to you just calling him annoying.

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#14 SolidGame_basic
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Is this where people all of sudden pretend they care about this game?

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#15 Litchie
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@shadyacshuns: lol nice. That last one made me laugh.

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@Litchie said:

@shadyacshuns: lol nice. That last one made me laugh.

Sony should just call their consoles "wokestation" from now on. :(

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#17 HalcyonScarlet
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Sony are so protective. Censoring games from being... Inappropriate... Hard... Too much gameplay... They even put lots of FMV and QTEs in to protect their gamers from all that pesky gameplay that could corrupt them.

Sunshine and gosh darn rainbows.

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#18 onesiphorus
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So it is acceptable for a man (or even a woman) to punch a man, but it is not acceptable for a man to punch a woman? Notice the double-standard here?

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#19 Howmakewood
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Sony cutting off cringe anime stuff? oh the horror

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#20 sakaiXx
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Not surprised but the leaks was from 4chan.

Seems like this is something devs needs to confirm.

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#21  Edited By freedom01  Moderator
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might want to add that its a rumor. Also about the costume part, it looks no different from their previous entries. Now the US version may get some censoring/changes is some areas, an example would be a scene in Tales of Berseria which was different from its JP counterpart.

https://toarise.tales-ch.jp/special/dlc.php

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#22  Edited By simple-facts
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Sony virgins will have to use the disc drive slot for their pleasure again,oh well another trip to A and E to get it removed by a nurse.

"I slipped and fell on top of my PS"

😆

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So funny how the PC guys come in here and act like it's not a big deal, just because this isn't their kind of game, but if the next diablo or crysis was screwed around with by Sony, they'd stomp their feet about a corp changing a devs creation.

Hypocritical? Yes, very.

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#24  Edited By Howmakewood
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@shadyacshuns said:

So funny how the PC guys come in here and act like it's not a big deal, just because this isn't their kind of game, but if the next diablo or crysis was screwed around with by Sony, they'd stomp their feet about a corp changing a devs creation.

Hypocritical? Yes, very.

? I have the game preordered, you can like the game and not be in it for the creepy anime hotspring scenes lol

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#25 navyguy21
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I'll never understand censoring nudity, sex and sexual dialogue in games in an industry that allows extreme violence and human dismemberment.

I can "role play" as an assassin and chop up an entire village but I can't see the bar maid's boobs?

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Yet full on sex scene with topless nudity in TLOU Part II, lol

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#27 Telekill
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@mesome713: For once... we agree. I don't play anime games and don't understand the attraction some have towards the style but there are ratings on the games for a reason. Let the devs make what they want and let the public buy what they want.

The only way I would side with censorship on games is if it was an existing IP or character and the original creators didn't want their characters shown in such a way whereas the dev wanted more sexualization.

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#28  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@shadyacshuns said:

So funny how the PC guys come in here and act like it's not a big deal, just because this isn't their kind of game, but if the next diablo or crysis was screwed around with by Sony, they'd stomp their feet about a corp changing a devs creation.

Hypocritical? Yes, very.

I think you are missing the point here. Some of us just don't care about that extra stuff with hot tube/hotspring stuff, we just want to play the core of the game and discuss about it. I preorder it on Steam and to me, you either have it or you don't when it comes to ecchi stuff.

Edit: Most SW users know I'm also a hentai fan and if I want to play a hentai game, I know where to go but Tales of Arise isn't one of them if you know what I mean lol.

@freedom01 said:

might want to add that its a rumor. Also about the costume part, it looks no different from their previous entries. Now the US version may get some censoring/changes is some areas, an example would be a scene in Tales of Berseria which was different from its JP counterpart.

https://toarise.tales-ch.jp/special/dlc.php

I didn't do that much on research but form what I can tell so far, I haven't notice much change but it's clear this may effect PS4/PS5.

By the way, I thought this was coming to Switch, guess that's not the case.

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@shadyacshuns said:

So funny how the PC guys come in here and act like it's not a big deal, just because this isn't their kind of game, but if the next diablo or crysis was screwed around with by Sony, they'd stomp their feet about a corp changing a devs creation.

Hypocritical? Yes, very.

Many PC players were upset when Capcom removed Cammy and R.Miki shoving their asshole into the screen.

Was a great loss for society.

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Jim Ryan continues his crusade against anime boobs.

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My gods, be harder to jerk off to anime woman.

P-A-N-I-C

Our freedoms is being stiffled. Tyranny. Litterally 1984.

The Jedi are taking over.

😂This.

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@davillain-: For me it's never been about the "creepy" stuff, as some have put it, but about changing content unnecessarily. I don't think any creator likes the idea of a third party changing their content when it's not merited.

I also think it's just shallow to defend censorship only when they think it affects the games they don't favor to begin with.

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#34 Archangel3371
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Pretty weird to see Sony doing this stuff. I’ll be getting the Xbox version myself anyway. Love the Tales of games so really looking forward to this new one.

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@shadyacshuns said:

So funny how the PC guys come in here and act like it's not a big deal, just because this isn't their kind of game, but if the next diablo or crysis was screwed around with by Sony, they'd stomp their feet about a corp changing a devs creation.

Hypocritical? Yes, very.

Dude, nobody can censor PC. We have nudity mods for a reason.

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#36  Edited By deactivated-611edca0d6021
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Original source (reddit) already deleted the post. It's fake until it's proven by someone with EVIDENCE. Which this is lacking.

And the Twitter account has 17 followers LMAO.

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#37 VFighter
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I don't understand why they'd do this (or if it's even true), but I'm against censoring media or art unless it somehow is doing something illegal.

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#38 tribesjah
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Don't really see the issue with it (not that this game is something I was gonna get anyway, not big into anime or JRPGs tbh). Most of the stuff above mentioned in OPs post sounds weird and creepy af, as well as not integral to the game/plot so really don't see the issue.

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#39  Edited By Mesome713
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@tribesjah: Yet you accept heads and limbs being blown to pieces? What’s the difference?

Woman wearing a bathing suit is bad, but women having theirs heads bashed and body parts shot and cut is ok. That sounds bout right. Thank you o great Sony, good looking out.

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#40 onesiphorus
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@girlusocrazy said:

Might want to change the topic to "CERO is at it again"

The reason for this absurd censorship can very likely be attributed to Japan’s CERO ratings board that are known to have some very inane requirements for censorship on their titles. Masahiro Sakurai, the man behind the Super Smash Bros series, has also commented on CERO’s absurd requests in order to allow products, mentioning that “They were being ridiculous and frankly quite juvenile” when discussing Mai Shiranui’s absence from the Smash series and the hurdles it took for them to accept Palutena and Wonder Pink’s designs.

When has CERO has gone from being a ratings board to one that imposes what can or cannot be shown in games released in Japan? This is the same ratings board that asked Konami to cut out the graphic violent scenes in some of the Metal Gear Solid Games and the same one that asked that the Japanese publisher of the 2011 game Homefront to remove any "unflattering" references to the late North Korean leader Kim Jong-il (father of current leader Kim Jong-un) and North Korea.

These two examples have nothing to do with ratings but imposing standards that are irrelevant to rating a game.

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#41 tribesjah
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@mesome713: Honestly I do not have an argument to answer you there. Although I will say that most games do not have limbs and heads being blown to pieces (there are some yes, but vast majority of "violent" games do not have that). From recent memory only ones I can think of is Doom Eternal and CoD WW2 (MW did not have that, and I have not played the new blac ops so can't say).

I will admit some of what I said earlier is driven by personal bias against the odd anime/henTai style and all that, especially the way women/girls are portrayed (I just find it extremely weird, especially the interest of all the people in the women in those types of games and the whole Japanese Otaku stuff super super odd/concerning)

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#42 madsnakehhh
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While some of this scenes were dumb to begin with (why is there even a towel costume ?) the idea that the rest of the world should be asexual, is kind of disturbing.

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If it has an 18 rating whats the issue?

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#45 Pedro
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The game is rated T-Teen - Content is generally suitable for ages 13 and up. May contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling and /or infrequent use of strong language.

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What's happening in weeb games is none of my business.

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That's what happens when you let hard-core leftist from California call the shots.

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#48 Pedro
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@silentchief said:

That's what happens when you let hard-core leftist from California call the shots.

Or what happens when you game has a specific rating in a specific region.

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...and they just bought Crunchyroll 👉👌

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#50 lebanese_boy
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This is kinda weird, in other similar instances Sony is even more into censoring than Nintendo. I wonder what triggered this sudden change.